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Monitor advice

Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:30 pm

Hi All. I just went for a 2070 gpu and work on a 5 yr old Dell 24" monitor. It proved OK for 1080 gaming with a 970ti card - for the past 3 yrs.

What monitors at 2K - not TN - have you all found a good match? I play FC 5 but am not too demanding about eye candy.
 
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Re: Monitor advice

Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:48 pm

I don't think you mean 2K and I don't think you mean 970ti. One isn't a gaming resolution and the other doesn't exist ;)

A 2070 is capable of 144fps gaming even at 1080p with the right CPU, even with the eye candy turned up.
A 2070 is capable of smooth 60-100fps G-Sync/Freesync gaming at 1440p or even 4K if you turn down the details

It's not really clear what you're looking for - silky-smooth 144Hz motion, higher resolution, or both? It would also be useful to know what your CPU is because 144fps gaming is unforgiving on CPUs.

Casual and older games run fine for me on my 4K 60Hz TV with a GTX 970
For the latest AAA titles I use an RTX 2060 and a Freesync HP Omen 32 (2560x1440 VA panel) with a 40-85Hz variable range.

IMO, the sweet spot is to go for the highest details and resolution your hardware can manage whilst staying within the Freesync/G-Sync range of a monitor. I don't want my framerate to dip to 40fps, but if performance is usually enough to hit 85fps, it can easily drop to under 60fps in heavy scenes.
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Re: Monitor advice

Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:53 pm

Now that NVidia has finally quit blocking FreeSync in their drivers, there are plenty of inexpensive 2560x1440 120+ Hz monitors with variable refresh rate. IPS has quicker pixel response but blacks may look a bit gray compared to VA.

Have you looked at the Pixio PX329 or the Nixeus NX-EDG27? Reviews have been generally positive for these two inexpensive options.
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Re: Monitor advice

Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:33 pm

Asus' MG279Q is my display of choice. 27" 1440P 144Hz IPS Freesync, and with none of that silly gamer aesthetic. It basically looks like a Dell Ultrasharp that'll be right at home on an office desk.

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Re: Monitor advice

Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:00 pm

One of my gripes about computer monitors these days is that they seem to have gotten dimmer. I assume that it has to do with wanting to be energy efficient, but it seems like every monitor nowadays is 300 or 250 cd/m^2. You can put a 400 cd/m^2 monitor next to a 300 cd/m^2 monitor and most people will tell you that the 400 looks better, regardless of the actual picture quality. Incidentally, that's why smart phone manufacturers have been focusing on brighter screens (that don't eat the battery life) for a long time.

That ASUS monitor is 400 cd/m^2, but it's $300. Occasionally, I'll see something <$200 that's better than 300, but they're always TN panels. I recently moved from a 10 year old TN panel at 500 cd/m^2 (purchased for $250 back then) to a new IPS panel at 300 and I really miss the old bright monitor. The new one looks especially dim next to the 4K TV that I use as a 2nd monitor.
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Re: Monitor advice

Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:03 pm

all about personal preference.

If you are strictly fps gaming, you'd probably be happier with high fps. I found 120 was pretty good for that.

If you're not a hardcore fps gamer than there way more options.

I'm using a benQ BL2420PT (24" @ 2560x1440) and am happy with it. My next monitor (several years from now) will probably be a 4k screen at 24" or so in size and just game at 1080p. I love me some high dpi when looking at static images for clarity/sharpness/detail. Hopefully it will be true 10-bit color panel with no frc bs.

tftcentral is a good place for monitor reviews

and go check some out in person also
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Re: Monitor advice

Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:12 am

TurtlePerson2 wrote:
One of my gripes about computer monitors these days is that they seem to have gotten dimmer. I assume that it has to do with wanting to be energy efficient, but it seems like every monitor nowadays is 300 or 250 cd/m^2. You can put a 400 cd/m^2 monitor next to a 300 cd/m^2 monitor and most people will tell you that the 400 looks better, regardless of the actual picture quality. Incidentally, that's why smart phone manufacturers have been focusing on brighter screens (that don't eat the battery life) for a long time.

That ASUS monitor is 400 cd/m^2, but it's $300. Occasionally, I'll see something <$200 that's better than 300, but they're always TN panels. I recently moved from a 10 year old TN panel at 500 cd/m^2 (purchased for $250 back then) to a new IPS panel at 300 and I really miss the old bright monitor. The new one looks especially dim next to the 4K TV that I use as a 2nd monitor.


Given the amount of time you stare at a monitor, you don't want it too bright; Most eyecare professionals advise against bright screens and the recommendation for colour calibration is just 120 nits (a nit is a cd/m^2).

Ambient light also plays a factor since a laptop outdoors or a screen fighting sunlight reflections will need to work harder once your pupils contract, but you generally don't want to go over 200 nits for long periods because you'll sear your retinas out. My eyes look pretty bloodshot if my monitors at work or home are too bright and reducing the monitor brightness is the first thing our HR/ergonomics advisor suggests before an eye test.
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Re: Monitor advice

Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:00 am

ordskiweicz wrote:
Hi All. I just went for a 2070 gpu and work on a 5 yr old Dell 24" monitor. It proved OK for 1080 gaming with a 970ti card - for the past 3 yrs.

What monitors at 2K - not TN - have you all found a good match? I play FC 5 but am not too demanding about eye candy.


I've been eyeballing a few of the AOC monitors. There are two around $400 that are 144Hz and have Adaptive Sync.
 
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Re: Monitor advice

Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:45 am

Thanks all. Yeah, its a plain 970 card in use now, with a i7-6700K cpu (I do see people - obviously not TR gerbils and maybe sharper than me - calling 2k as shorthand for 1440 res)

I like the idea of max sharpness when not gaming. Great ideas. I am open to VA panels.

I think I will see how this upgrade works out and have thought about updating the system entirely - but am not sure I'd get much bang for the bucks.

More reviews of what you all are actually using would be helpful. Thanks.
 
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Re: Monitor advice

Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:52 am

TurtlePerson2 wrote:
One of my gripes about computer monitors these days is that they seem to have gotten dimmer.

As refresh rate goes up, it's harder to illuminate the screen.
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Re: Monitor advice

Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:21 pm

Here's a positive review of the $350 Pixio PX329:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqd9c-Jbv7U
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