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IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:01 pm

Hello there!

I have this IPS236 screen but I'm wondering if swapping it for the AOC Sniper would be any good?

I'm interested in the Freesync and 1ms response, but I can't really evaluate that. On the other hand the colors of the IPS panels tend to look a bit better. What do you guys think? Is it worth it?

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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:19 pm

Probably not.

The color situation is likely to really be a lot worse on a $150 TN screen, and 75 Hz is a much bigger problem than a typical IPS response time is. People do like Freesync (tearing doesn't bug me so I'm not qualified to say), but paying $150 just to get Freesync doesn't seem like a very good deal.

If you want something better for twitchy gaming, going for 144 Hz would probably be better.
 
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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:31 pm

There are a fair number of monitors that use IPS or VA LCD panels with both 120+ Hz refresh rate and FreeSync (VESA adaptive sync) variable refresh. The cheapest one at 1080p is $170 -- just $20 more than the 75 Hz model that you were considering.

For my personal taste and graphics card budget, I like a 144 Hz FreeSync monitor with 2560x1440 resolution, but those start at $350 for VA and IPS panels. You also would need a heftier graphics card (e.g.: Radeon Vega56 or GeForce GTX1070Ti) to push most games to high frame rates at 1440p than you would need at 1080p.
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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:26 pm

Thanks for the answers! =)

I'm in Brazil. There aren't many options here. And 144Hz is very expensive, almost double the price, so I'm not considering it.

Well... IPS colors beats Freesync + response times +75Hz?

Or, it's just not worth to upgrade? I mean, If I had no screen, would the Freesync one be worth it?
 
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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:15 am

FreeSync (VESA standard adaptive sync) adds $0 to $25 to the price of an otherwise-similar monitor that lacks variable refresh rate. Variable refresh rate makes gaming better and FreeSync is (very nearly) free. After gouging their customers mercilessly for more than five years with expensive proprietary G-Sync, NVidia has just recently stopped blocking VESA standard adaptive sync in their drivers (for GeForce GTX10?0 and RTX20?0 graphics cards). What's not to love about FreeSync?

With an existing 60 Hz IPS LCD display, you should probably hold off to upgrade to a monitor that has 120+ Hz and FreeSync variable refresh. An IPS/PLS/AHVA or VA/PVA/MVA LCD panel would best match the image quality of your current monitor. TN LCD panels are cheap and fast where color accuracy and viewing angle do not matter. If you use your PC for significant editing or viewing of video or photos, you probably would not want a TN LCD panel. If you use your PC just for gaming, then TN LCD panels can offer the fastest pixel response rate (though input lag from the monitor's electronics can become more significant than the LCD panel's response time).

Not all FreeSync is equal. For seamless low framerate compensation (LFC) when your graphics card's performance drops below the minimum FreeSync frequency, the card can automatically double the refresh rate so that each frame that the graphics card renders is sent to the monitor twice. That means that we would like to have a FreeSync range where the lower frequency is less than half of the upper frequency. 48-120 Hz is good because LFC will automatically extend FreeSync operation below 48 Hz. A FreeSync range of 48-75 Hz is less good not only because it cannot do more than 75 Hz but also because it doesn't allow FreeSync below 48 Hz. Without LFC, you may need to do some tuning of the game's graphics options to keep your performance above the minimum of the FreeSync range. With LFC, you can still have smooth and tear-free gaming when frame rates are below the lower FreeSync frequency. Some folks have succeeded in extending the default variable refresh frequency range of their monitors by customizing driver capability settings, but if you want something that works well out of the box, look for a monitor with a broader FreeSync range. Any monitor with AMD's "FreeSync 2" certification is guaranteed to support LFC.

I don't know about PC hardware availability and pricing in Brazil, but most monitors are built in Asia and are then shipped all over the world.
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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:22 pm

rinshun wrote:
Well... IPS colors beats Freesync + response times +75Hz?

IMO, yes, but it's open to personal preference. The better response times aren't worth much at 75 Hz, so Freesync versus IPS should be the main choice. (Can you get IPS + Freesync for a similar price? As JAE said, Freesync doesn't add much of anything to the bill of materials.)

rinshun wrote:
Or, it's just not worth to upgrade?

Mostly this. It's not an upgrade, it's an expensive sidegrade, and if money is tight enough that you won't consider a true upgrade that's twice the price, you almost certainly won't be satisfied with the value this sidegrade represents either.
 
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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:58 am

I can't really find any other freesync screens in the same price. The closest ones are these:

Acer ED242QR: This one is curved, I don't know if that is a good thing or not. Also it's VA, not IPS

Lg 24MP59G: This one is a $1200BRL IPS Screen; More expensive than theTN AOC 75hz ($900BRL), but a little cheaper than the AOC 144hz ($1400BRL)

Maybe I should wait a little? Since Nvidia (the biggest market share) is now letting people use Freesync, more monitor options will appear?
 
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Re: IPS236 vs AOC2460VQ6

Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:56 pm

Yeah, I would wait.

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