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It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:01 am

Well documented architectures are a good thing: https://software.intel.com/sites/defaul ... _R1new.pdf
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:59 am

You say that well documented architectures are a good thing. Makes sense. For us lesser minded gerbils... why? What problem does this solve?
 
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:26 am

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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:13 am

DragonDaddyBear wrote:
You say that well documented architectures are a good thing. Makes sense. For us lesser minded gerbils... why? What problem does this solve?


So that greater-minded gerbils can tell you whats good and bad. :-) Gen11 looks good overall for an iGPU. It fixes a lot of the issues with Gen9 (shared memory was in L3, but now its faster and more local according to the docs. That's great!!). Honestly, its a better architecture than I expected, so its reasonably exciting to see.

Obviously, wait for benchmarks. But I'm personally optimistic about this.
 
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:21 am

DragonDaddyBear wrote:
You say that well documented architectures are a good thing. Makes sense. For us lesser minded gerbils... why? What problem does this solve?


Getting stuck sucks. If there's good documentation, then getting unstuck often means an hour or two reading the docs for a possible solution. The alternative is spending a day, a week, or more sifting through code and running tests to reverse engineer the problem.
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:09 pm

3x resources compared to Gen9 => 3x performance.
Going from a 1x3 to a 2x4 layout. So that's what? 2x the area on the chip?
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:44 pm

I'm looking forward to the discrete versions of this, if only to have another player on the field for consumer GPUs.

I fear it may end up being overly compute focused, though.
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:04 pm

Waco wrote:
I'm looking forward to the discrete versions of this, if only to have another player on the field for consumer GPUs.

I fear it may end up being overly compute focused, though.

Hell, I'm pumped for the IGP versions. Having an even more game-competent GPU, advanced encode/decode among other features might get me to drop a discrete GPU in my main PC in the future. Maybe once it matures a bit I'd consider an eGPU for when I want to play graphically intensive games and use the intel IGP the rest of the time.
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:21 pm

True. I ended up with an MX150 in my laptop to get passable gaming performance on the road. I'd love to have competent IGPs from AMD (which exist) and Intel (which hopefully will exist soon)!
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:09 pm

DragonDaddyBear wrote:
You say that well documented architectures are a good thing. Makes sense. For us lesser minded gerbils... why? What problem does this solve?


The better the documentation the better the drivers (see Linux already having open-source support pre-launch). Also: It will basically never go out of support in the realistic lifetime of the hardware.
Furthermore, in this age of "low level" APIs like Vulkan and DX12, it never hurts to be able to educate yourself about the underlying hardware.
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:05 pm

I'm trying not to get overly optimistic over this, but everything seems to point to intel breaking at the very least the mid-high end discrete GPU market. And that's more than enough for me. The equivalent of a GTX 1660 (or whatever covers that place in 2020, when Xe releases), from intel , will be terrific.

If someone told me in 2014 that by 2020 AMD will again be making competitive high end CPUs, and intel will be making competitive discrete GPUs, I'd be laughing. And now I can't wait to be able to get me a Zen 2 (3?) system with intel Xe graphics.
 
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:04 pm

Waco wrote:
I'm looking forward to the discrete versions of this, if only to have another player on the field for consumer GPUs.

I fear it may end up being overly compute focused, though.


That's where the real money is, so that's what I would expect.
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Re: It Goes To Eleven: Intel Gen11 architecture doc

Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:39 am

Given Microsoft's habit of rebrand failed "brands". At that point, it'll probably be called "Bing Store".
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