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Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:49 pm

Hi!
My Radeon HD 7870 GHz edition died on me recently. In its stead I installed a Radeon HD 5670 and although it's tolerable I find it lacking even with all the detail turned down and resolution bumped down a notch. I'm not planning to upgrade my system until Ryzen 3/Navi come out. Is there anything for about $50 that can hold me off till then? I looked at Radeon HD 7770 and it seems OK. Is there anything else I should consider? I'm just looking to get my occasional Borderlands fix and my screen is 1920x1200 but could drop to 1680x1050 with medium detail if I could get decent performance. The CPU is i5-3570K.
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:54 pm

GeForce 1050ti ?

If there is more cash at hand go for 1660.
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:10 pm

Very little is known about Navi, and Nvidia have dealt their cards for the next 12-18 months so don't expect anything to change there, given that Navi will likely compete with, rather than undercut, the existing market. With that in mind, I would question how temporary your graphics card is going to be.

At under $100 you are looking at an RX550 or GT1030, both of which suck. 1080p30 at low settings is about all you can expect in AAA games from the last few years.
From around $130 you can find an RX570 which is a vast (quadruple) perfromance upgrade over either. 1080p60 at high/medium settings aren't a problem in most modern games.

$50 just isn't enough to bother with; The market is full of snake oil and obsolete junk at that level, simply because integrated graphics from Ryzen-G and Intel HD630 are as good for free.
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:19 pm

bitcat70 wrote:
The CPU is i5-3570K.


So use the iGPU that comes with the i5-3570K?

Or do you want something more powerful than that? I agree with Chrispy_, you'll want to spend ~$130 minimum, since everything under that price point is quite awful.
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:39 pm

Using the IGP was the first thing I thought of also since you've already got it, and yeah you're not likely to find anything worthwhile unless you spend enough to get something decent.

Instead of just doing a +1 post I'll be the guy who says don't wait for stuff that's still part of the distant future. If it were me I wouldn't even try getting a "temporary" GPU at all. I'd just do the GPU upgrade now, and continue using the machine I had until there was a need to upgrade the rest of it. Options for a GPU upgrade are annoying right now, but there's not much any of us can do about that. Some people get all worked up about purported bottlenecks when one component is new and the rest are not, but personally I've never really seen the point in that either.
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:56 pm

dragontamer5788 wrote:
bitcat70 wrote:
The CPU is i5-3570K.


So use the iGPU that comes with the i5-3570K?

Or do you want something more powerful than that? I agree with Chrispy_, you'll want to spend ~$130 minimum, since everything under that price point is quite awful.


Is the i5-3570K iGPU better than the Radeon HD 5670 I currently have installed? I tried to find some benchmarks looking for something comparable to the 7870 that died but didn't see anything comparing it to current gen GPU's. In case it wasn't obvious from my post obsolete (used) cards are OK. After the recent tax non-refund my funds are low. And I don't care if it's AMD or nVidia.
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:05 pm

bitcat70 wrote:
Is the i5-3570K iGPU better than the Radeon HD 5670 I currently have installed?

These are all I could find and it appears that the answer is no.

https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/ ... ile+review

https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/ ... 670+review
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:18 pm

The RX570 that Chrispy mentioned looks pretty good to me. Check ebay and craigslist and whatnot if you want to try to get a deal beyond the $130-150 you can get elsewhere.
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:44 pm

Redocbew: yeah, good suggestions and that would be my course of action were the situation different. The RX 570 looks like a great option but it's way more than what I'm looking for right now. The GPU situation nowadays is truly dismal. I just saw a $35 7770 on ebay. Might go with that for now as any worthwhile upgrade from that is in the neighborhood of $100. Thanks all!
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:06 pm

Go check this out: https://oztalkshw.com/100-pc-you-can-ac ... build.html

The rx 460 linked with the discount code is around $53, if you want a cheapo solution.

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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:55 pm

gecko575 wrote:
The RX 460 linked with the discount code is around $53, if you want a cheapo solution.
That is a good deal in the sub-$100 range, but I would have to be really pumped about waiting for Navi to not just get the Radeon RX 570 at current pricing.
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:39 am

A used GTX 970 would be a decent temp card if you found one for the right price. Should be faster than a 1050 Ti and slightly faster than a 570.
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:37 am

I would go with something no higher than a 980/1060/1660 or RX 580 with your 3570k.
You will be massively bottlenecked with something higher like a 1080 / 2060.

Source: Me, a guy who put a GTX 1080 in a system with an i7-3820 and a 1080p 120 Hz monitor.

You could probably score a deal on a used 1060 or RX 580 on craigslist, etc, but be careful for cards from miners. Ask how many the seller has for sale. If they have several, it's a red flag.
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:41 pm

Update:
Thanks again to everybody for the suggestions. In the end I elected to go with that $35 Radeon HD 7770 I saw. I must say it's working much better than the 5670 it replaced and I'm happy with it. Granted I had to turn down some settings and there is the occasional stutter but for the most part it's fine. Borderlands GOTY Remaster looks great! It will be enough until I'm ready for an update later in the year.
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:55 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote:
I would go with something no higher than a 980/1060/1660 or RX 580 with your 3570k.
You will be massively bottlenecked with something higher like a 1080 / 2060.

Source: Me, a guy who put a GTX 1080 in a system with an i7-3820 and a 1080p 120 Hz monitor.

What was your experience like?
What about 1440p60 and/or higher graphics settings?
Four cores @ 3.4 GHz isn't that bad..

A review / test showing such bottlenecks would be nice.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3 ... ryzen-more is interesting. It uses a 2080 Ti though and doesn't appear to do GPU-bound testing. :(
 
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Re: Temporary gfx card suggestions

Sun May 12, 2019 9:45 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote:
I would go with something no higher than a 980/1060/1660 or RX 580 with your 3570k.
You will be massively bottlenecked with something higher like a 1080 / 2060.

Source: Me, a guy who put a GTX 1080 in a system with an i7-3820 and a 1080p 120 Hz monitor.

You could probably score a deal on a used 1060 or RX 580 on craigslist, etc, but be careful for cards from miners. Ask how many the seller has for sale. If they have several, it's a red flag.


All good tips. The RX-580 I've found, can be had quite cheaply used; I've seen non-folding cards for between $130-150. Also means the RX-570 used is probably a great budget deal.
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