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Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 4:37 am

I have Dell Precision 7510 with Xeon processor. WS came with Nvidia Quadro M1000M, 2GB GDDR5. Other option for the card was Nvidia Quadro M2000M, 4GB GDDR5.
I would like to upgrade to next generation of Quadro cards: Nvidia Quadro P3000M, 6GB GDDR5. Posted my question with Dell Tech Support.
Can not get the answer from Dell except for what it says in specs.

So is it possible? Any suggestions? Thanks
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 6:27 am

Laptop graphics upgrades are a tricky thing. The standards aren't as standardized as they should be, even when you're dealing with MXM cards.
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 7:45 am

Look online and see if anyone else has done the upgrade and how they did it.

If all they did was go on ebay buy a used mxm card and plug it in you're good to go.

There are several HP machines which you can do that sort of upgrade on.
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 7:46 am

So are you saying: do not try it at home?
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 7:51 am

It's more "if other people have done it you should be fine". If they haven't, there's a good chance you won't be able to.
 
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 8:37 am

I found out from YouTube card upgrade video that my 7510 has MXM-A slot and card that I was looking for is MXM-B according the author of that clip.
Not sure where I can get that info, do not see it in tech data.
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri May 31, 2019 1:39 pm

It's in the tech data from Dell, yes it's a MXM type-A card in that one, PCIe 3.0. Supported cards were the FirePro W5170M 2GB and the 2 you mention.

You might be able to get away with an unsupported Quadro M2200 in there, but nothing higher AFAICT; I'd just grab an eBay M2000M 4GB from a parted-out Dell and call it done. It's a 3 year old laptop and the battery might not last another 2 years.

OTOH, it's a 3 year old laptop and the 7530 kicks it's arse (at least, when fully-configured), and that's 11+ months old IIRC (June 2018), the 7520 was IIRC June 2017, and that 7510 was IIRC June 2016 :wink:
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:22 pm

Thank you Topinio.
I did exactly as you suggested, I bought M2000M and call it quits. As far as the age of my WS, it is still under warranty, was made in 2017. I got it cheap on Craigslist, so with all accessories and updates it is still a fraction of the cost of any 7530
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:21 am

That's the right thing to do. Even if a newer MXM module will fit in the slot, corproate laptops are notorious for having customized BIOS/UEFI that only allows certain graphics modules.

Hopefully it turns out well. I've thought about getting a used 7510 to replace a very old laptop that sees occasional travel use.
 
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:29 am

I ended up with M2000M, that was native to my 7510 as an option. After installing it, I can see it in Device Manager, but it has yellow triangle next to it and it is not functional.
I updated the driver, but I still getting code 43 error.
What is the right solution to that. Youtube has many videos, not sure what to use. Any tips?
BTW, I install M.2 SSD and my system does not see it. Bios? Please advice.
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:57 pm

Take out the M.2 SSD, 1 change at a time.

The M2000M ought to work if you have the Dell driver installed (unless something has gone wrong with the heatsink reinstallation). If you updated the driver, was it to that or a one from the NVIDIA website? If the latter, try reinstalling the Dell one, should be v 21.21.13.7586 / A01 -- download name is Video_ISV_Driver_33M6J_WN32_21.21.13.7586_A01.EXE for 10 ; v. 23.21.13.8908 / A03 , nVIDIA-Quadro-M-and-P-Series-Graphics-Driver_X1R1W_WIN_23.21.13.8908_A03.EXE for 8.1 ; v. 362.13 / A01, 362.13-quadro-whql_ZPE.exe for 7.

Alternative is that it could be that you got a bum card off eBay, did you check the physical markings that it's the right thing?
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:15 pm

My Dell was still on warranty and I called Dell tech support. They told me that new card installation was not under warranty but decided to help anyway.
After 3 hours with Dell tech support logged in my WS, I got no image no on my laptop screen, nor on my external monitor. Dell called it quits and ordered new MB.
Next day after Dell tech put back my M1000M, everything became normal and I was no need for MB replacement. That M2000M was from HP and as I understood from different YouTube videos, I needed to flash all the drivers and to do an install again.
I sent HP card back and bought M2000M that was pulled from Dell 7510 (my model). Now... I do not see Intel card on device manager at all. How shall I proceed with M2000M installation? Drivers and windows were updated.
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:44 am

GeneG wrote:
I do not see Intel card on device manager at all. How shall I proceed with M2000M installation? Drivers and windows were updated.
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I don't understand what you mean.

Is the hardware configuration as it was before you did anything? Software/drivers too?

Assuming that you can put it all back to how it was and have it working, I would then run 'Dell Command | Update' v.3.0 to update all the drivers and BIOS etc.

The Dell driver package for the M2000M is the same as for the M1000M, current version for that workstation is nVIDIA-Quadro-Series-Graphics-Driver_5J1W5_WIN_24.21.14.1163_A07.EXE and it should just work to shutdown, swap hardware, boot up...
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Re: Graphic Card Upgrade

Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:05 am

I am planning to swap M1000M for M2000M. Currently In my device manager Intel card is not seen. I just wonder if M2000M will not install right away, I would not have any card to see what is going on on my display. So I am asking if I have to get Intel card back as active before I will start my swap.
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