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NVidia Ampere

Sun May 03, 2020 8:02 pm

DGX A100 is going to be an expensive GPU with lots of computing grunt and HBM2 for HPC supercomputers.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Mon May 04, 2020 3:00 am

AMP IT UP!

This doesn't come that much of a shock since Tesla. HPC/Enterprise customers always get first treatment of a new architecture that gradually gets distilled down to other markets.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Mon May 04, 2020 7:17 pm

More speculation about an HPC component. Get on with the gaming, already!
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Wed May 06, 2020 6:26 am

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-tsmc-7nm-eu ... m-low-end/
TSMC's process may be a bit more refined at this point, but I don't really care which new EUV lithography process NVidia chooses as long as they get some new gaming GPUs out soon.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue May 12, 2020 5:28 am

GeForce RTX 3080Ti revealed:
https://www.techpowerup.com/266959/nvid ... s-revealed
In September 2020, NVIDIA will hold an event specifically to launch the next-generation GeForce, very close to "Cyberpunk 2077" release.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue May 12, 2020 11:09 am

https://www.techpowerup.com/266986/nvid ... his-ampere
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-ceo ... f-the-oven
https://pcper.com/2020/05/nvidia-teases ... hics-card/
Today, NVIDIA's CEO was spotted in a video that's published on the official NVIDIA YouTube channel. It shows him pulling out of the oven what he calls "world's largest GPU", that he has been cooking all the time. It's been a while since we have seen Mr. Huang appear with his leather jacket, and in the video, he isn't wearing one, is this the real Jensen?
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:37 pm

There are rumors that consumer cards will have a TDP of 320-350 watts. What is the PSU requirement for these cards?
 
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:02 pm

If you hook it to an i9 or top-level Ryzen, 750W is probably the starting point.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:23 pm

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If you hook it to an i9 or top-level Ryzen, 750W is probably the starting point.

Top level Ryzen chips + board + memory + SSDs struggle to break 200 watts unless you manually overclock them.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:40 pm

Waco wrote:
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If you hook it to an i9 or top-level Ryzen, 750W is probably the starting point.

Top level Ryzen chips + board + memory + SSDs struggle to break 200 watts unless you manually overclock them.

The wonders of 7nm... :grin:
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:26 am

Waco wrote:
Captain Ned wrote:
If you hook it to an i9 or top-level Ryzen, 750W is probably the starting point.

Top level Ryzen chips + board + memory + SSDs struggle to break 200 watts unless you manually overclock them.


I see that you have Radeon Vii. What is your PSU wattage?

I have 9900K, RTX 2080Ti, 32GB of RAM and 2TB M.2 powered by a 850-watt PSU.
 
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:53 pm

Hmm. I think it's an 850 (I'm far too lazy to open it up), but only because I used to run SLI Titans and a heavily OC'd 6700K. Even with water on the GPU / CPU and auto-OC enabled on both I don't see more than 500 watts from the wall in a full-load stress test. Gaming is usually well under 300 at 4K in a modern title.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:08 pm

Leather Jacket Man has AMP up the hype!

Ampere is an evolution of Turing backed by refining RT cores and throwing more in the mix. It easily leapfrogs Turing at RTX stuff, but I suspect the gains are not as impressive under pure rasterization workloads. Nvidia is afraid of RDNA2 that are willing to engage a preemptive price war against it for their lesser SKUs while confident enough believing it cannot touch 3090. It looks like 3080 will end-up being the sweet spot as it easily surpasses 2080Ti at RTX and most likely outpaces it at rasterization by a small margin. The power consumption will be more sane too (probably somewhere between 2080 and 2080Ti under RTX mode while being on par with 2080 under pure rasterization loads). 3060 will likely match 2080Ti at RTX mode and rival 2080 at rasterization. It'll probably go for $299 mark when comes out in Q1-Q2 2021.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:50 pm

Digital foundry has a hands on with the 3080 if you want to see some actual numbers and not Nvidia's vague graphs.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:55 pm

ark_angel wrote:
Digital foundry has a hands on with the 3080 if you want to see some actual numbers and not Nvidia's vague graphs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD01yUQdVA

That's without DLSS/RTX in some cases too. Appears to be 70-80% improvement across the board. Not too shabby at all!
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:54 pm

Wait until reviews and more eyes though. I wouldn't trust that "preview" with a simple pictro-graphs that is designed to be click-bait.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:14 pm

Krogoth wrote:
Wait until reviews and more eyes though. I wouldn't trust that "preview" with a simple pictro-graphs that is designed to be click-bait.

:o You mean announcement day performance shouldn't be taken as the final word? WHERE DID YOU ACQUIRE THIS GREAT WISDOM???
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:43 pm

3080 has about the same non-RT resources as 2080Ti and a slight clock speed advantage. NVidia pricing it at $700-$800 really does bode well for RDNA2.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
3080 has about the same non-RT resources as 2080Ti and a slight clock speed advantage. NVidia pricing it at $800 really does bode well for RDNA2.


I'm hoping that AMD RTG manages to make RDNA2 rival 3080 and 3070 at lower price points leading to a much-needed price war.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:25 pm

I am just finding it insane that the top end GPU is 1500
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:05 pm

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I am just finding it insane that the top end GPU is 1500

It's insane, but that's the line they are drawing in the sand for RT gaming at 8K. The world is still trying to get to 4K so as always there is a premium on bleeding edge stuff. It's not exactly just "1 higher tier SKU", but almost to the point of the old X2 cards, which were also priced insanely.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:14 pm

As someone who ran quadfire with two 4870X2s...the prices have gotten insane. Even two 4870X2s, at launch, were barely breaking $1k.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:24 am

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I am just finding it insane that the top end GPU is 1500


It is because 3090 is really just rejected Quadros that ate too much power and it is possible that Nvidia is retiring the "Titan" brand.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:56 am

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Deathright wrote:
I am just finding it insane that the top end GPU is 1500


It is because 3090 is really just rejected Quadros that ate too much power and it is possible that Nvidia is retiring the "Titan" brand.

You speak with confidence not backed by information.
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Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:33 pm

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He is not impressed. :P
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:58 pm

Waco wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
Deathright wrote:
I am just finding it insane that the top end GPU is 1500


It is because 3090 is really just rejected Quadros that ate too much power and it is possible that Nvidia is retiring the "Titan" brand.

You speak with confidence not backed by information.


It is just sheer speculation. There's no need for "holler-than-thou" attitude over silly branding.

3090s are GA102 silicon yields that ate too much power for enterprise customers like all previous high-end Geforce gaming SKUs.

Brands do retire for whatever reason. It is possible that Nvidia may be quietly retiring it as they have been quiet and didn't bother teasing a Titan-branded version of GA102. 3090's memory capacity and price points are roughly in the same neighbor that Titans used to hold as seen with Pascal and Turing Titans.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:17 pm

I miss the days when the second tier card was only 250 (7800GT).
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:29 am

Deathright wrote:
I miss the days when the second tier card was only 250 (7800GT).

It does feel like the cost on this stuff has gotten out of hand. I'm going to have to be a lot more careful with my yearly hardware budget from now on.
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Re: NVidia Ampere

Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:44 am

Deathright wrote:
I miss the days when the second tier card was only 250 (7800GT).


I think your inflation goggles are kicking in. The 7800GT TR reviewed launched at $399 (back in 2005!). In 2020 dollars, that price is ~$530.00. The 7800 GTX launched as an ~$800.00 card in 2020 dollars.

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