Game_boy wrote:Yeah, I hear you. These folks aren't so mighty at the craft of writing. S|A articles, in particular, tend to be offensively verbose, repetitive, and littered with tangent's and trail-offs. Charlie can turn a paragraphs worth of material into a 20 page term paper.Fudzilla with their ridiculous repetitive syntax vs S|A's informal, aggressive tone. Is this really the best the industry has in rumour reporting?
yogibbear wrote:If the now gtx 680 was the gtx 670, then what happens to what was previously the gtx 680, I wonder. Heck, this is tantamount to Nvidia throwing in the towel on a high end GPU and playing follow the AMD leader.So all our whinging about the 7850 and 7970 being priced too high and not shifting the performance-price curve any means that nvidia are just going to cash in a make some nice money while they let AMD catch up on the design front?... I guess if you were nvidia you don't want to "kill" off your competition, just keep them a lame duck. I'm still annoyed if the $550 price is true. I could have handled $500 for the "true" 680, but not $550 for the rebadged 670 ti.
Game_boy wrote:flip-mode wrote:Game_boy wrote:...
The interesting thing is that Charlie's forum posts tend to be much more reasonable and informative. He deliberately puts on that style when writing articles, and so I conclude it is working for getting hits and he knows it.
flip-mode wrote:We end up either clinging to old cards longer or we pay more for the new ones, and we experience little to no improvement in the price/performance curve over the last 12-18 months.
Flying Fox wrote:I don't think they ever claim to be formal professional journalistic pieces. They are put squarely in the category of "tabloids". That's the style for it, right?
I don't think I can hang on to my GT240 when D3 comes.
revcrisis wrote:No party in here, I'm ridiculously disappointed about this. The GK104 was supposed to be the $200-300 performance part. But since the performance of the 79xx series did not challenge it, it's now rebadged as the top of the line 680. That means I'll have to wait for the GK106 which was supposed to be the lower mainstream part. Wonderfulll... I might just get the 7850 if it becomes slightly cheaper. Nvidia's pricing is just taking advantage of their superior architecture as clearly they are in no rush to release their true top of the line GK110. Lose, lose here for the consumer.
Game_boy wrote:Also if SC2 runs on my Intel-integrated-G965-from-2007 why would D3 need something >GT240?
clone wrote:when was the last time Nvidia released a rumor that didn't promise the sun, the sky, the moon, their superiority?.......best card ever? really? did anyone expect GTX 680 to be inferior to GTX 580? is Nvidia the new Apple where fans flock and rejoice at the pathological, defy reality, ignore common sense and embrace vapor as gold? it's comical, their is a comment proclaiming the bottom line being that we must blame AMD for the price hike Nvidia is rumored to be introducing.... really, AMD the company that radically dropped the price of gaming just a cppl generations ago is totally at fault for Nvidia raising the prices of their video cards back to where Nvidia had them before? Apple like reality distortion field? double standard to be certain.Flip-Mode wrote:apparently it's all AMD's fault as poor Nvidia is forced to rake in all that cash despite always having wished they were a not for profit charity in another life.... "effing AMD" making Nvidia earn a profit. p.s. when HD 79xx came out it dropped the price of high end cards.... but whatever it's all AMD's fault because. p.s.s their is no party in here, it's just a poor reflection.If there's a bottom line that from all of this it could be that AMD's pricing of the HD 7000 series may end up effing us all over if Nvidia looks to match those price/performance targets.
revcrisis wrote:It probably went like this. Nvidia planned on releasing GK104 as the 670 T.I. at roughly $300 to compete with the 7950. But, when the 79xx series came out, NV realized that their $299 card actually beats the 7970 in some benchmarks. This is when the whole "disappointed with AMD's SI" quotes came out from the NV PR camp. Nvidia looked as the obscene price of the 7970, renames their card to the GTX 680, added $250 to the launch price, and calls it a day.
So yes, AMD fired the first shot with their ridiculous high prices and NV was more than happy to follow suit. As a whole, GPU advancement was not pushed forward as much as it could have been. The GK110 will probably become the next generation of Nvidia 7xx series cards which is what's most disappointing. It could have been this generation, but it won't.
cegras wrote:There's the whole 'nvidia saw ATI's cards were crap and repositioned everything,' or there's the 'nvidia is releasing what it can, 3 months after competition.'
StuG wrote:I guess I'm just saying how can you know that this part wasn't always suppose to be the 680 and that everything else was just FUD?
Game_boy wrote:The 7970 is 365mm^2. The plan can't have been for a 500mm^2+ Nvidia GPU to just match it.