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JohnC wrote:Perhaps... What resolution do you play at? If it's over 1080p then you may want to upgrade to a more powerful model.
Voldenuit wrote:Not ... really? Not with a single card, that is. (゜-゜)it's worth pointing out that both nvidia and radeon cards can suffer from stutter depending on the game and settings
Voldenuit wrote:If you're gaming at 1440p or 1600p, you'll probably want to step up to a 670 or 7950/7970.
JohnC wrote:If it's over 1080p then you may want to upgrade to a more powerful model.
BBN wrote:JohnC wrote:Perhaps... What resolution do you play at? If it's over 1080p then you may want to upgrade to a more powerful model.
I play on a Panasonic 32in TV and it is only 720p.
Voldenuit wrote:You should post what your system specs are and what resolutions you game at. A list of games you play or intend to play might also be handy.
Generally speaking, assuming you have a balanced build, a GeForce GTX 660 or 660Ti should be sufficient for most gaming at 1080p. The Radeon 7870 is also an option at this price point. While a lot has been said about the 'smoothness' of the Radeon cards, it's worth pointing out that both nvidia and radeon cards can suffer from stutter depending on the game and settings (as shown recently in the Titan review), although nvidia still appears to have an upper hand in this area at the moment. If you're gaming at 1440p or 1600p, you'll probably want to step up to a 670 or 7950/7970.
Full disclosure: I'm using a GTX 660 right now (1920x1200 monitor) and have used both AMD and nvidia cards in my systems since the TNT and Radeon9700 Pro days, so I consider myself pretty impartial about brands.
BBN wrote:Here are my computer specs:
Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3
Intel i7 2700k
G.Skill 8GB Memory
Lite-On 256GB SSDx2
AMD HD 5450 temporary
auxy wrote:Ehh? 「(°ヘ°) I run 1080p games at 60hz just fine with maxed details with my aged GTX460. You're telling me a 660Ti -- which is faster than a 580 -- can't hack it?
For 720p gaming I'd just get a 650Ti or even an older card used. Almost anything should be fine.
auxy wrote:Voldenuit wrote:Not ... really? Not with a single card, that is. (゜-゜)it's worth pointing out that both nvidia and radeon cards can suffer from stutter depending on the game and settings
auxy wrote:Ehh? 「(°ヘ°) I run 1080p games at 60hz just fine with maxed details with my aged GTX460. You're telling me a 660Ti -- which is faster than a 580 -- can't hack it?
For 720p gaming I'd just get a 650Ti or even an older card used. Almost anything should be fine.
JohnC wrote:Baaah! ヽ(≧Д≦)ノ Take your poorly-optimized beta game benchmarks out of here!Personally, I wouldn't consider these results (for this card and this type of resolution) as "fine": (nonsense Crysis 3 benchmark) :P
auxy wrote:BBN wrote:Here are my computer specs:
Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3
Intel i7 2700k
G.Skill 8GB Memory
Lite-On 256GB SSDx2
AMD HD 5450 temporary
Whu? Instead of spending a bundle on a new GPU, buy a decent new GPU and a new MONITOR! \(。>▽<。)ノ
auxy wrote:JohnC wrote:Baaah! ヽ(≧Д≦)ノ Take your poorly-optimized beta game benchmarks out of here!Personally, I wouldn't consider these results (for this card and this type of resolution) as "fine": (nonsense Crysis 3 benchmark)
Voldenuit wrote:Well, of course not, but you're not really saying the same thing there, are you? (ಠ_ಠ) That's not "stutter", that's just "worse performance with a single GPU than with dual-GPUs." Which, I mean, well, duh. ヘ(。□°)ヘYes, really. (...) While single GPU cards are most likely smoother than SLI/CF configs for the majority of cases, that doesn't mean that they are immune to laggy frames or even the smoothest in all cases.
Voldenuit wrote:Yep yep! Although if he/she wants the maximum in image smoothness, he needs a 144Hz Lightboost-capable display. Heh-heh-heh!(*≧艸≦)Okay, he/she should try to upgrade both the monitor and the GPU, with the priority based on his/her usage priorities. I would go for a decent e-IPS 23-24" 1080p monitor (they can be found for under $200) and then get a ~$200 GPU like the GTX 660.
BBN wrote:Really? ( ̄エ ̄;)ゞ By what metrics?My TV/Monitor is fine and actually one of the best for gaming.
BBN wrote:Maybe but I don't play at max graphics or have every advanced graphics setting turned on. I play games at a competitive level and having everything maxed out would not be ideal. I am more concerned with frame latency and gaming fluidity, so it seems the Nvidia GTX 660Ti would be my best bet.
My TV/Monitor is fine and actually one of the best for gaming.
Voldenuit wrote:BBN wrote:Maybe but I don't play at max graphics or have every advanced graphics setting turned on. I play games at a competitive level and having everything maxed out would not be ideal. I am more concerned with frame latency and gaming fluidity, so it seems the Nvidia GTX 660Ti would be my best bet.
My TV/Monitor is fine and actually one of the best for gaming.
A 660Ti would be complete overkill for 720p.
If you're really into competitive gaming, you should be looking at new monitors with high refresh and low input lag as well. auxy has a point that you may or may not be basing your judgement on the suitability of your TV/monitor as a competitive gaming display by the right metrics.
BBN wrote:... I ... don't really think anyone disagrees with that? We were all telling you to get a new GPU. ヘ(。 □°)ヘA new graphics card is a must the AMD 5450HD doesn't cut it at all. It is also not even supported in a couple of games.
In another thread, I wrote:A Radeon HD7770 is acceptable for most games at 1080p. I suggest the Sapphire 100358OCL for the 10% speed bump from the factory.
You could get very good gaming performance with a mid-range GPU like a Radeon HD7850 1GB or 2GB, GeForce GTX660 or Radeon HD7870.
derFunkenstein wrote:I like how everyone is saying "get a new monitor!!!" when he said he's playing on a 32" 720p TV. It's a TV. You guys just aren't paying attention to his requirements
vargis14 wrote:Since his 2700k will be around for a good while i would at least get HD7870 performance.
Newegg has a open box$231 PowerColor PCS+ AX7870 2GBD5-2DHPPV Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition (Vortex II Edition) 2GB clocked at 1150 on the core compared to 1000mhz and 5000mhz mem compared to 4800mhz...a hefty factory OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 814131476R
I never have bought a open box from newegg so i have no idea what to expect.
Or this HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit that is a oversized blower design that is pretty quiet for $219.99
It also has 4 heatpipes and runs very cool! 94 reviews averaging 4 stars. Note the card is a bit larger then most 7870s since it has the oversized blower squirrel cage blower that hangs over the end of the circuit board a bit. Not that you will have to but they do overclock well if you would need to in the future. Plus you have the blower design that is quiet but exhausts the Gpu heat from the case helping the chassis stay cool.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814161404
auxy wrote:I think OP was like, "Abandon thread!ヽ(゚Д゚)ノ" when we started arguing. Hehe.(⌒▽⌒)
BBN wrote:I will take a look at these. My only problem is AMD doesn't seem to be as smooth as Nvidia when gaming from the tests
done on this website.
cynan wrote:Note: neither the GTX660 nor 660Ti will play Crysis 3 or Metro 2033 with all the eye candy on at resolutions above 720p.As others have said, even the 660 is a bit overkill, but it may come in handy for running games like Crysis 3 or Metro 2033 with all the eye candy on.