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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:54 pm

Shinare wrote:
Unfortunately there is no leeway in which model I am allowed to purchase because of reasons... Its only the Optiplex SFF line, been moving up the 70X0 numbers these days..

Damn, I know work can be stupid but that's something special, requirement for screens to work being blocked by a refusal to buy the same make and model in a different chassis option??? :roll:
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:08 pm

Topinio wrote:
Shinare wrote:
Unfortunately there is no leeway in which model I am allowed to purchase because of reasons... Its only the Optiplex SFF line, been moving up the 70X0 numbers these days..

Damn, I know work can be stupid but that's something special, requirement for screens to work being blocked by a refusal to buy the same make and model in a different chassis option??? :roll:

Welcome to life in a big bureaucratic corporation...
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:18 pm

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Welcome to life in a big bureaucratic corporation...

Still taking that raincheck :wink:

Back semi-OT, if anyone cares for an entry in the EVGA affilate prize draw enough to want to PM me their affiliate code, go fo it.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:53 pm

@Topinio this is wonderful information, thank you for sharing it with us! Were those tests run on the i5-2500K system in your sig?

Interesting to see the GT 1030 basically the performance of the R7 250, although I too expected the difference to be a bit bigger. I wonder how much the 64 bit memory interface is holding it back?
With the Kepler cards you could do a comparison between the GT 730 and GT 740 to see how much extra performance came from the memory (the GDDR5 GT 730s were 64 bit, where the GT 740s were 128 bit, but they both had 384 Keplers) and as I recall it was about a 30% gain.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:39 pm

deruberhanyok wrote:
@Topinio this is wonderful information, thank you for sharing it with us! Were those tests run on the i5-2500K system in your sig?
Thanks, and no problem, glad to; and yes.

deruberhanyok wrote:
Interesting to see the GT 1030 basically the performance of the R7 250, although I too expected the difference to be a bit bigger. I wonder how much the 64 bit memory interface is holding it back?

It seems heavily task-dependant, which is to be expected as the cards have strengths in different areas. While a better processor, the GT 1030 is -- typically? -- starved of weak on memory bandwidth, only 2/3 of the HD 7750 ...

  • doesn't run within the Radeon's 1 GB will favour the GeForce obvs,
  • runs within the 1 GB and is compute-bound will favour the GeForce by 20-35% (Star Swarm, F1 2010 no AA),
  • runs within the 1 GB but needs any reasonable memory bandwidth will favour the Radeon (SteamVR),
  • reasonably balanced will be relatively close (F1 2010 with AA, Metro 2033) but minimum framerates will be likely better on the GeForce due to its much higher clocks,
  • Street Fighter IV :roll: no idea, suspiciously better on the GeForce ... but ofc, that's a thing ...
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:48 pm

Ok i got it. I put it on pci 4x becouse one port does not fit the casing when i try to put on pcie 16x.
my old R7 250 e https://youtu.be/9DG8D0bBYB8
my new GTX 1050 lp 2GB https://youtu.be/rY_S2uZQuyY

Sorry for my english....

Ok, if someone tell you Put your GPU to pci-e 4x do not listen to him.
I put the same gpu to x16 and Works much better - smoother
The videos do not reflect that but believe me the game works much better, there is no strange trimming.

GTX 1050 on pci-e 16x https://youtu.be/u_9HGiGAyMs
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:02 am

Im a bit late in posting as ive had this rig for almost a couple of years now. i have dell 9020 ssf and I managed to squeeze in a Geforce 750 ti.

A bit more aesthetically pleasing than having the psu hanging loose :)

I did have to take the side off my Dell stock power supply and luckily the GPUs fans fit inside the PSU. haha, in summer i have to have side off the pc else it can get a bit toasty and I get artifacts or glitches, its been really hot this year but normally it runs just fine fully closed up.

crabpunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6064.jpg Pooop it wont let me post an image/links yet. copy and paste if you wana see.

The GPU that fits in is a - [MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti DirectX 11.2 N750ti-2GD5TLP 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

I had to a get SFF bracket for the graphics card off amazon, You lose the VGA when you replace it with a half height bracket that includes HDMI and DVI.

I also had to unscrew and slightly tilt the PSU
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:30 pm

I would generally recommend against doing that, for the heat problems you're seeing sometimes and also because an open power supply is a recipe for a pop and blue smoke incident. But if it works for you, I guess I can't argue with the results.

I haven't tested anything in any of the SFF boxes newer than a 9010, which still had the x16 slot in the "correct" location to use a double-wide GPU. Did you try running the card in the x4 slot? I'm fairly certain it won't work as the slot isn't keyed to provide enough power, but over time a lot of people have asked here and it would be good to have confirmation one way or another.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:30 am

single slot low profile?
GTX 750ti> 1030 GT.
Just follow this guide:
/geforce-profile-single-sujet_968419_1.htm
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:15 am

nicoG wrote:
single slot low profile?
GTX 750ti> 1030 GT.
Just follow this guide:
/geforce-profile-single-sujet_968419_1.htm

Heh, welcome, and we know GTX 750 Ti performs better than GT 1030, it's also twice the TDP... but isn't it also either only available as a non-LP single-slot card or a LP but two-slot card that throttles (so might not even beat the 1030)?

Or correct me please, where can I buy a single-slot, low-profile, brand-new-with-warranty GeForce GTX 750 Ti which doesn't throttle and so perform worse than the benchmarked ones?
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2017)

Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:28 pm

Your best option would be finding a GM107-based Quadro K1200 if that's what you're looking for. Performance will be about the same as a GTX 750 (non-ti). You could also look at the GP107-based Quadro P1000, which is basically a single slot GTX 1050 with slightly lower GPU clock and much lower mem clock. But as I've mentioned in the past, workstation cards are far too expensive for the relative performance if you're just trying to play games.

I also don't know what that link is supposed to be, but I won't consider user-modified cards a real option for this segment.

If your primary purpose is gaming and you're going to go to all of the trouble of modifying a card for single slot operation (which is going to require you buy two cards and swap heatsinks, spending more and voiding warranties) or if you'd rather spend even more on a single slot Quadro / Radeon Pro card, you really would be better off buying a larger system and not wasting your time with trying to keep to low profile, single slot.
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