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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:20 pm

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Well, if they take the design of the Quadro K1200 and make a regular GeForce version of it, it wouldn't be anything new - just another GM107-based card.

There's always the possibility that they update it to GM2xx, so the entire desktop 900 series is using the same generation of Maxwell, but I don't know how likely that is with them working on Pascal at this point.

Can't see another Maxwell design now, much less one for the < 75 W segment.

Maaaybe there'll be a really cut-down GM206 as a GT 940 if NVIDIA has a high number that are binning too poorly for the GTX 950 and GTX 960, and maybe those will be half-height 1 slot boards -- but IMO that is quite unlikely this late into 28 nm. Much more likely for there to be another trickle-down rebadge and we'll get the GM107 as the GT 940.

As for another GMxx7 fitting in below the GM206, what reason would there for the engineering resource application to working on a GM117 or GM207 for the ~150 mm2 segment, when GM107 is doing so well and the GP family is well underway (GP100 is rumoured to have taped out in June and to be in engineering sample boards since September) ?
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:35 pm

I agree. I think a rebadge of the 750/750ti is much more likely, and I'd be okay with that.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:56 pm

Put a 4 GB low profile ~50 W one out, and I'd be okay enough with it to actually consider opening up the HTPC :D
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:03 pm

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deruberhanyok wrote:
Finding rumours about the low-end cards is always difficult - people flock to tech websites when there is new about the new high-end cards, but aren't nearly as interested when it comes to mainstream and low-end.

And yet the GTX 750 Ti is one of the best selling cards out there due to most prebuilts having low wattage PSUs with no PCIe power connecters, making this card a simple upgrade. Replacing a PSU is a PITA to do.

And the 750 Ti isn't really a low-end card - it's nearly as capable as the 660 Ti (which was definitely meant as a quality mid-range card) at just over half the power budget, which means low-noise but good performance. I can play a lot of my Steam library with the 750 Ti, at 1920x1080 and medium detail levels, and never have a single stutter or slow-down.

The 9x0 card series are certainly more powerful, but even the 960 has a much higher power draw, and therefore isn't as well-suited to being in my living room build. If Nvidia wants to do a 9-series refresh with some more cards under 70W draw, like the 750 Ti, it'd certainly pique my interest.
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:06 pm

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And the 750 Ti isn't really a low-end card

Only because AMD were nowhere. It's titchy at 148 mm2, the mid-range is normally ~300 mm2.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:49 pm

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And the 750 Ti isn't really a low-end card - it's nearly as capable as the 660 Ti (which was definitely meant as a quality mid-range card) at just over half the power budget, which means low-noise but good performance. I can play a lot of my Steam library with the 750 Ti, at 1920x1080 and medium detail levels, and never have a single stutter or slow-down.

Given that Nvidia does place this card as low end and you can get one for as low as $90...
The 9x0 card series are certainly more powerful, but even the 960 has a much higher power draw, and therefore isn't as well-suited to being in my living room build. If Nvidia wants to do a 9-series refresh with some more cards under 70W draw, like the 750 Ti, it'd certainly pique my interest.

I think that Nvidia should replace the 750 Ti next year with a Pascal version that is more powerful and has the same features such as a low power draw...
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:40 am

Good news, everyone!

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According to an article over at WCCF tech, the card we all know and love as the GeForce GTX 750 has been given a new lease on life with a cut-down version of the GM206-150 GPU:

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx- ... hitecture/

Here's the card listed in TechPowerUp's GPUDB:

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2778/g ... 50-v2.html

Bonus: it now supports HDMI 2.0, the various other new encoding features and graphics features of Maxwell 2.0 architecture, and it gets double the ROP units. Performance looks to be similar to the GM107-based GTX 750, although it's anyone's guess as to whether the newer features and increased ROP count allow for smoother gameplay.

Now the downside: the only card shown so far (the gainward card linked in the WCCFtech article) is listed with a 65W TDP in a dual-slot, regular profile form factor AND it has a 6-pin PCIe power connection on it. While the first generation GTX 750 cards were also in this form factor, they didn't have the power connector (although on some cards there was space on the PCB for one). It may also be a function of the card basically being a cut-down GTX 950, which also requires 6-pin PCIe power.

So, keep your eyes open for any of these new 750 cards. Maybe we'll see some that fit into the same profile as the Quadro K1200.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:47 am

I do not like the fact it says Dual Slot for the 750 V2....it will not help anyone looking for a LP single slot card that at least one company should have released by now.

Also AMD has been dragging their feet since their fastest low power card is still the old hd7750. I would have though with the maturity of 28nm they would have designed some competition for the 750ti perhaps based on the Bonair chip or something with its 896 shader cores.

But I have no idea what it would cost a design a low power chip to compete with Nvidia's Low power 750ti. I imagine AMD used all R&D funds on the fury and HBM, but that is just a guess.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:57 am

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Good news, everyone!

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:P I read the line before the picture loaded, and that's exactly what I envisioned.
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:37 am

Chuckaluphagus wrote:
whm1974 wrote:
deruberhanyok wrote:
Finding rumours about the low-end cards is always difficult - people flock to tech websites when there is new about the new high-end cards, but aren't nearly as interested when it comes to mainstream and low-end.

And yet the GTX 750 Ti is one of the best selling cards out there due to most prebuilts having low wattage PSUs with no PCIe power connecters, making this card a simple upgrade. Replacing a PSU is a PITA to do.

And the 750 Ti isn't really a low-end card - it's nearly as capable as the 660 Ti (which was definitely meant as a quality mid-range card) at just over half the power budget, which means low-noise but good performance. I can play a lot of my Steam library with the 750 Ti, at 1920x1080 and medium detail levels, and never have a single stutter or slow-down.

I know this post is a couple weeks old but I just thought I'd point out that the 750 Ti is certainly a good card for the money (especially for its efficiency) but isn't in the same league as a GTX 660 Ti or 760. Even the GTX 660 (non-Ti) is quite a bit faster than the 750 Ti. A 660 Ti is going to be around 50% faster than the 750 Ti in most cases.

I'd still call a 750 Ti a mid range card though. Its sort of like the sweet spot budget GPUs of the past. Reminds me of getting plenty of performance from a $99 Voodoo 3 2000 16MB PCI card back in 1999. You could do better, sure, but it was plenty for most people and the price made it a very affordable way to be able to play any game on the market.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:18 pm

For those who look for such cards I'd advise to wait till mid 2016 as new AMD cards will be manufactured around that time.

So what's so good about them? They're using Polaris chip that's manufactured in 14nm process which means lower power consumption

For me it's the only chance of any upgrade as I have Sapphire HD7750 which is becoming quite dated nowadays.
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:39 pm

Yeah, the next generation from both NVIDIA and AMD will hopefully provide a nice boost to this segment. I was disappointed to see that AMD just rebranded the 7750 again (okay, the R7 250 is a different chip, but it's the same tech) for the Rx 300 series. And, this far into the GeForce 900 series' lifespan I figured we'd have seen the rest of the low end parts show up (GeForce 930 & 940). Instead it looks like the 750/750ti refresh is going to be a rarity, and it the few examples we've seen so far, useless to anyone looking for small video cards.

I also wouldn't expect to see the lower end cards launch alongside the flagship models. Judging by the last few launches, it may be end of 2016 before we see something new in this segment that offers a worthwhile upgrade from the low profile single slot GeForce GT 740 and R7 250 / Radeon HD 7750 cards.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:43 pm

With greatly improved integrated GPUs, anything less than a GF 750 is rather useless from a performance standpoint. I'd be happy to see them go, as I've always felt NVidia/AMD and their partners are doing consumers a disservice by selling confusing garbage cards. Their only real value these days is for additional display connectivity.
 
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Re: GTX 950 SE / LP

Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:01 am

Keep an eye out for the upcoming GTX 950 "SE" /"LP" which should be available this march!
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:13 am

GPUs manufactured on the 14LPP and 16FF+ processes should be available before the end of 2016. Lower power consumption than the current 28HP process might allow fitting more GPU performance onto a low profile card.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:31 pm

Yeah, I'd like to see an affordable Maxwell part that would fit into low profile single slot form factor - the Quadro proved it could be done, and we've had 750ti cards in low profile double slot cards since they launched, basically. But so far the only single slot options have been HD 7750s or R7 250s, and lately the occasional GT 740.

It'd be nice to have something that wasn't based on technology that launched FOUR years ago as an option for consumer single slot cards (yes, Kepler launched March 2012, and GCN 1.0 just a few months prior to that).

But I'm expecting the next generation of cards will provide much bigger bang for buck in this segment, and I'm also not expecting to see much new for it until they launch.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:43 pm

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With greatly improved integrated GPUs, anything less than a GF 750 is rather useless from a performance standpoint. I'd be happy to see them go, as I've always felt NVidia/AMD and their partners are doing consumers a disservice by selling confusing garbage cards. Their only real value these days is for additional display connectivity.

I'm sorry but why do people keep pretending to not know what low end graphics cards are for? There's no way that you really think that these are meant for use in for recent systems with modern APUs... so why post things like this? Lots of people just have low profile systems already (shocker!) and want to improve the graphics capabilities... either for enhanced video acceleration, better drivers, different video outputs or improved gaming performance. A Radeon 7750 or GT 740 (a decent one) is still very useful to anyone who plays games. I don't play AAA games like I used to, but I've been a PC "enthusiast" since the 90s and every single game that I currently play will run just fine on many recent budget cards. If I can play it on my laptop with HD4000 graphics, it will be better on nearly any dedicated card (except the lowest of the low... HD5450, GT610, etc.).

My brother in law loves his cobbled gaming system I gave him with two Xeon L5240s, 8GB of DDR2 and an EVGA GT 740 SC with 2GB of GDDR5. The whole computer was scrapped together from cheap parts over the course of a couple years and it runs Minecraft with shader mods smoothly. Most people would be fine with even less. Its certainly a lot better than the performance one would get from a modern APU.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:56 pm

ozzuneoj wrote:
I'm sorry but why do people keep pretending to not know what low end graphics cards are for? There's no way that you really think that these are meant for use in for recent systems with modern APUs... so why post things like this?

Am not arguing with this, but...

ozzuneoj wrote:
Lots of people just have low profile systems already (shocker!) and want to improve the graphics capabilities... either for enhanced video acceleration, better drivers, different video outputs or improved gaming performance. A Radeon 7750 or GT 740 (a decent one) is still very useful to anyone who plays games. I don't play AAA games like I used to, but I've been a PC "enthusiast" since the 90s and every single game that I currently play will run just fine on many recent budget cards.

No.
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If I can play it on my laptop with HD4000 graphics, it will be better on nearly any dedicated card (except the lowest of the low... HD5450, GT610, etc.).

No.
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two Xeon L5240s, 8GB of DDR2 and an EVGA GT 740 SC with 2GB of GDDR5. [...] Most people would be fine with even less. Its certainly a lot better than the performance one would get from a modern APU.

Also, no.

I have a Radeon HD 7750 paired with a Core i5-2500K, and it is unplayably inadequate at low settings at 1280x1024@75Hz in Star Wars Battlefront, and was in WoW 18+ months ago. It's a 4+ y.o. £90 card, the idea that it's useful to anyone who plays games is :roll:
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:37 pm

You sure? Passmark benches the 7750 just a little under a 550ti, and I recall the 550ti I had gaming pretty decently (modest settings). Alas, I never really got into gaming and eventually disassembled the machine, and sold the card to farmpuma, where it spends its days folding/heating his house. :)

Also, I have one of those low-end GPUs - a GT730 - and it does its purpose quite well. If you guys don't like those, then tell me what else I'm supposed to use that performs a bit better than the HD2000 (the i5 2400 it comes with is about 80% as fast as a comparable Skylake i5), gives me more video outputs, and lets me run tools like Solidworks and others on a decent AMD or Nvidia card (basic workstations often have similar but Quadro/Firepro cards alongside an i5 or Xeon E3). That's literally what these cards are for...
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:28 pm

Topinio wrote:
ozzuneoj wrote:
I'm sorry but why do people keep pretending to not know what low end graphics cards are for? There's no way that you really think that these are meant for use in for recent systems with modern APUs... so why post things like this?

Am not arguing with this, but...

ozzuneoj wrote:
Lots of people just have low profile systems already (shocker!) and want to improve the graphics capabilities... either for enhanced video acceleration, better drivers, different video outputs or improved gaming performance. A Radeon 7750 or GT 740 (a decent one) is still very useful to anyone who plays games. I don't play AAA games like I used to, but I've been a PC "enthusiast" since the 90s and every single game that I currently play will run just fine on many recent budget cards.

No.
ozzuneoj wrote:
If I can play it on my laptop with HD4000 graphics, it will be better on nearly any dedicated card (except the lowest of the low... HD5450, GT610, etc.).

No.
ozzuneoj wrote:
two Xeon L5240s, 8GB of DDR2 and an EVGA GT 740 SC with 2GB of GDDR5. [...] Most people would be fine with even less. Its certainly a lot better than the performance one would get from a modern APU.

Also, no.

I have a Radeon HD 7750 paired with a Core i5-2500K, and it is unplayably inadequate at low settings at 1280x1024@75Hz in Star Wars Battlefront, and was in WoW 18+ months ago. It's a 4+ y.o. £90 card, the idea that it's useful to anyone who plays games is :roll:


I don't play Battlefront or WoW and none of my friends play them either. There are tens of thousands of PC games available and only a minuscule percentage require a GTX 750 to be enjoyable.

Or should I have just quoted you and said "No." ?
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:02 am

ozzuneoj wrote:
I'm sorry but why do people keep pretending to not know what low end graphics cards are for? There's no way that you really think that these are meant for use in for recent systems with modern APUs... so why post things like this? Lots of people just have low profile systems already (shocker!) and want to improve the graphics capabilities... either for enhanced video acceleration, better drivers, different video outputs or improved gaming performance. A Radeon 7750 or GT 740 (a decent one) is still very useful to anyone who plays games.

You mean if you happen to do the hours of painstaking research to make sure you get the 1 out of the 3 wildly different versions of GT740 that isn't a steaming pile of trash? (I could be thinking of the 730, but I digress..) You need to be both very knowledgeable, and do lots of research to know what you're actually getting, and even then it's often hard to tell. Low-end cards have always been marketed to take advantage of confusion and lack of customer knowledge. They make their one-time sale, but each time a new entrant to PC gaming buys a disappointing, underperforming, and confusing product, PC gaming as a whole is given a black-eye. Many people just say "Screw it, I'll play on a console". Though low-end cards are thankfully being pushed out of the market and becoming more niche (due to greatly-improved integrated graphics), the problem was always more the marketing than the cards themselves. Of course there are a handful of instances where a lower-end card could be useful, but they're getting fewer and fewer. I'd encourage you to go to 1:09:33 of Scott's last podcast where he discusses this.

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Also, I have one of those low-end GPUs - a GT730 - and it does its purpose quite well. If you guys don't like those, then tell me what else I'm supposed to use that performs a bit better than the HD2000 (the i5 2400 it comes with is about 80% as fast as a comparable Skylake i5), gives me more video outputs, and lets me run tools like Solidworks and others on a decent AMD or Nvidia card (basic workstations often have similar but Quadro/Firepro cards alongside an i5 or Xeon E3). That's literally what these cards are for...

Your usage is extremely niche within an already niche (and ever-shrinking) market. Most folks doing professional work would spring for a professional card or something a little higher-end. I was also mostly discussing their viability versus current-gen integrated graphics (rather than the 2400 which is 5yrs old). With the 750 Ti now costing $99 and pushing down from the top (this is where I drew the line earlier), and greatly improved IGP's pushing up from the bottom, it will be really hard to make a case for low-end cards going forward.
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:40 am

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I don't play Battlefront or WoW and none of my friends play them either. There are tens of thousands of PC games available and only a minuscule percentage require a GTX 750 to be enjoyable.

Or should I have just quoted you and said "No." ?

Yeah, why not? :wink:

Apologies for being slightly stroppy, but the contention that a HD 7750 -- low-end from 4 years ago -- is a viable gaming card seems so wrong to me. Because I have one, in my HTPC, and there are many games that it can't play well, even on low settings.

The games it can play well, all tens of thousands of them, are either (a) old or (b) non-demanding: I've played World of Goo, Rocksmith, Toki Tori, Stealth Inc 2, Quake III Arena, Papers Please, Overlord and more on there happily enough, though usually not for long.

Most of these are playable on an iPad though.

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every single game that I currently play will run just fine on many recent budget cards

Could you give some examples of which games and which cards?
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:07 am

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localhostrulez wrote:
Also, I have one of those low-end GPUs - a GT730 - and it does its purpose quite well. If you guys don't like those, then tell me what else I'm supposed to use that performs a bit better than the HD2000 (the i5 2400 it comes with is about 80% as fast as a comparable Skylake i5), gives me more video outputs, and lets me run tools like Solidworks and others on a decent AMD or Nvidia card (basic workstations often have similar but Quadro/Firepro cards alongside an i5 or Xeon E3). That's literally what these cards are for...

Your usage is extremely niche within an already niche (and ever-shrinking) market. Most folks doing professional work would spring for a professional card or something a little higher-end. I was also mostly discussing their viability versus current-gen integrated graphics (rather than the 2400 which is 5yrs old). With the 750 Ti now costing $99 and pushing down from the top (this is where I drew the line earlier), and greatly improved IGP's pushing up from the bottom, it will be really hard to make a case for low-end cards going forward.

First off, yeah, I do have the better of the 3 730's. Dumb branding there...

Anyway though... I remember when Sandy Bridge came out, and people were saying that the onboard graphics were actually pretty decent. But go a few years down the line, and those graphics look a bit lacking (my board only has one digital output, and that was typical for IGPs for quite a while) - and those cheap, basic PCIe cards start to look useful. Over the last few years, IGPs have been one of the things that are actually still improving. That's the case with 10 year old machines, it's the case with 4 or 5 year old machines (when Sandy launched), what's to say it won't be the case again in the future? I've also put piles of cheap cards like these in new desktops at a school, if only because they need something cheap to run AutoCAD (basic stuff). Hell, I've put these in if only because the onboard on an Ivy Bridge machine only had Displayport + VGA, and we wanted to run the teacher's monitor and a projector both off HDMI/DVI ports. Seems like most of the Haswell business equipment finally went to 2 Displayports + VGA though, which solves that bit.

Thing is, if you're the average user, chances are you haven't even cracked the case open. Shoot, there's a decent chance you don't even own a desktop anymore.
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:36 am

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First off, yeah, I do have the better of the 3 730's. Dumb branding there...

Anyway though... I remember when Sandy Bridge came out, and people were saying that the onboard graphics were actually pretty decent. But go a few years down the line, and those graphics look a bit lacking (my board only has one digital output, and that was typical for IGPs for quite a while) - and those cheap, basic PCIe cards start to look useful.

That's because Sandy Bridge was the first time an IGP could actually outperform some of the cheapest $29-39 discreet cards of it's day. Since then, IGPs have probably become competitive with $69-79 discreet cards, meaning they've moved up relative to the competition. Since low-end cards are often rebrands of rebrands of rebrands from 2-3 generations ago, ever-increasing IGPs will mean that these cards become less valuable even for older machines (unless they decide to start selling better low-end cards, which would be a win for the consumer).

localhostrulez wrote:
Thing is, if you're the average user, chances are you haven't even cracked the case open. Shoot, there's a decent chance you don't even own a desktop anymore.

Discreet card buyers are a small part of the market for sure, especially if you subtract the number that came preinstalled in OEM rigs. That's why it's so bad to have first-timers get soured on PC gaming after getting burned on a garbage card that was misrepresented as being something better than it was.
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:45 am

Hi, I would love to have a more powerful low profile card, right now 750ti is the only option, but asus and msi have recently released a 75W 950, so it would be more easy to make an gtx 950 low profile.

To make awareness of our interest to the companies, and start a little bit of competition to finally sell something more powerful than the relatively aged 750ti in Low profile, I thought we can use social media.

I made a tweet with a poll calling the three main companies that will probably sell such product. Nobody is going to share or retweet, since I don't have followers interested in VGA tech, so if you want to help draw attention to the cause, answer the poll, retweet or use the hastag #lowprofilegtx950
The poll only lasts 7 days so there is not much time.

I'm not allawed to post liks so its twitter url + 4Nito/status/710447882458030080
 
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:37 am

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All credits go to this man right here:

vargis14 wrote:
Unfortunately to get any of the available low profile GTX 750ti's that are not truly a single slot card you have to replace the 750ti's heatsink with a true single slot heatsink.

So far this EVGA gt 740 LP card seems to have the best true single slot LP heatsink that will fit onto a LP GTX 750ti here is the link to the 89$ card/heasink


The purchase the LP EVGA card of your liking and mount this cooler on it and then sell the gt740 or use it in a bigger rig or keep the gt740 as a backup card.
I also read the gt 740 is a 64 watt card and the 750ti is a 60 watt card but I have no proof to that.

Sure your spending $215 but you are getting 2 video cards. Also EVGA's single slot GT 740 cooler looks nice:)

Also would a 90 degree PCIE adapter help with your case...from a quick glance I do not think so.


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Anyone still interested in 750ti Low Profile/Single Slot project for Antec 300. Here we go...

A while ago some fellas were still trying to fit a 750ti in the Antec 300.

Someone suggested a single slot heatsink specifically for the MSI version of 750ti.

I went to try what it sounded like a terrible idea and i ended up with 33c idle and 63c full load.

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Ok so the mod is not complicated at all but it requires an invesment. In my case, the antec isk 300 is not very inspiring to me with a gt740 (fastest LP on the book?).

So i went and spend some money just for the sake of having a decent gpu in a matchbox (Antec 300).

What you need:
- EVGA GT740 (02G-P4-2740-KR)
- MSI GTX750ti (N750TI-2GD5TLP)
- Thermal Pads / Thermal Paste (Optional)

Pictures?:
My card looks pretty much like a regular gt740, so i don't know if it makes much sense to post a picture. But if anyone is interested, no problem.

What i did:
Since the heatsink mount holes match perfectly. There's no issue changing one heatsink with the other.

I didn't even bother cleaning the stock thermal compound from the cards. I simply took a piece of cardboard to recover some of the paste that was spreading around and i puted back on top of the gpu.

At that moment i was dissapointed cause in the pictures of the evga you can see a copper heatsink.
I got an aluminum heatsink instead.

I was pissed off in the beginning. But i also knew that i could not call amazon and ask anyone on the warehouse to open every single box until they find a copper heatsink.
So out of my frustration, i didn't even bother wasting my precious artic silver in an aluminum heatsink.

I took the paste around and i puted back on top of the gpu, no cleaning, no high expectations whatsoever.

Bam. To my surprise, the temps were between 33c & 63c.

My power supply is an Athena MFATX50
500watts.

my 400watts from athena failed to power my p8z77, 2 corsairs and 3770k. the computer shuts down as soon as the gpu goes full load. So i had to go with 500w. could be simply that the athena is a piece of garbage.

Next: The fan connectors are different. So is important that if you plan to stay with the evga fan, you will have to cut the cable and change connectors one from the other.

In my case, because the MSI fans were so quite. I decided to use the MSI fan. This requires heavy modding but in the end is faster than wating a month for a new fan to come from china. so i ditched the evga fan.

Last: If you try to put back the plastic cover on the heatsink, you'll notice a component on the board gets in the way.
I broke a tiny bit of platic from the cover to avoid this problem. It does not affect air flow in any way.

Summary:
- Change the heatsinks
- put some thermal pads on the memory (optional)
- replace the fan connectors
- trimm the plastic in one corner of the plastic cover.
- done.

If anyone is interested in pictures. just hit reply.

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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:50 pm

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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:27 am

Hi, nice mod. However...

Are you 100% positive that the temps under full load were 63 degC?
In contrast to the full size two-slot card, the Low profile 750 ti heats up pretty dramatically (who would have thought?). Even with stock two-slot alu heatsink and fan set to 100%, GPU temperature shoots up to 80 degC within half a minute or so in both cards I have had the chance to tinker with (edit: the above MSI one and the ZOTAC LP card). Needless to say, severe throttling occurs at these temperatures with corresponding performance penalty. Forget about any OC whatsoever.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:05 am

Nice mod! This is similar to what some of us had discussed before, repurposing the heatsink from a single-slot card with similar TDP.

The Quadro K1200 has a single-slot design and I'd hoped to find a source for those heatsinks to be purchased separately, but didn't have any luck. I don't recall it's temperatures being very high, though, and it's basically a GTX 750. I know the 750ti has extra cores and a higher clock speed, but I could see those temps being realistic.

I bet it would work really well with a GM206-based GTX 750, but I don't think those made much of a showing in the market.

But hey, NVIDIA and AMD's new GPU architectures are supposed to launch soon, so maybe there's hope yet.

When I started this thread nearly two years ago the recommendations were for HD 7750/R7 250 and GTX 750/750ti. They still are. :( So I think we're due for something new.
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Re: Best low profile video cards available (July 2015)

Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:21 am

@deruberhanyok

I do not know about the K1200, but the low profile GTX 750 ti, at least the ones from MSI and ZOTAC, are badly thermally limited in stock configuration. It is a matter of fact. Even with the stock two-slot cooler, load temperatures are 80 degC, i.e., the thermal throttling limit of nVidia GPU Boost at which the clocks are throttled back. The maximum boost clock for GTX 750 ti core is 1200 MHz (+/- 30 MHz) and "full size" cards do operate at this core frequency under load. The low profile cards, on the other hand, are throttled down to about 1100 and even 1050 MHz because of the thermal limit. Effectively, the performance penalty for LP cards vs the full size card is in the double digits because of inadequate cooling. I have made a very efficient custom cooling for the LP GTX 750 ti, and have achieved up to 20% higher benchmark scores over the stock configuration with bios mods (TDP increase, overvoltage) and OCing.
As it stands now, the cooling for LP cards with a TDP >20-30W is inadequate, allowing for less than optimal clock speeds. I truly expect some powerful LP cards coming from AMD based on Polaris 11, albeit again running hot, with limited overclockability.
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