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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:04 am

I have Bitdefender Free 2017 and Windows Defender periodic scanning turned on. I use chrome with extensions uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere. Windows firewall is adequate these days, it blocks all incoming requests unless you give them permission. I also have some free standalone scanners including malwarebytes. This setup is lightweight, free, doesn't spam me with ads or harass me to upgrade, and is pretty much invisible to the user. Simple set it and forget it is the best way to describe it. As far as protection, I haven't had anything​ pop up or come up on any of my scans, which could be due to real time protection doing its job or simply safe browsing habits. However, I've had several phishing and malicious websites blocked. I definitely recommend this setup for anyone, but just remember that there is no perfect solution for security. The best line of defense starts with you. If you feel the need to pay for a full security suite, I have heard good things about Kaspersky.
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:37 am

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The virus can attack your Operating system easily that's why you need to the best Anti-Virus Software who protect your Windows from the virus.In my opinion, the best antivirus software is Windows Defender it is Microsoft Anti-Virus Software.still, I'm using this software never give any issue working perfectly and its free antivirus software.Windows 10 or 8 you will get this software by default otherwise you can download it from here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... s-download Hope you will also like this software.



While I use Defender and feel its pretty good. I still browse in a VM. IF you are THAT worried. I would suggest going that route. If something gets borked you blow the VM away and recreate it from a saved one.
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:37 am

The problem with imaging either a boot partition or a VM is in order to guarantee a clean image, it must necessarily be a clean install--and unless you are willing to update it frequently your image will get outdated rather soon so will take a lot of time updating itself each time before becoming usable. It may make sense to maintain one image this way for use by many machines, but is less practical for a single machine where any image will more likely be only used for infrequent reinstallations (as you say, for when you notice something is borked) than preventive daily (or per-session) reimaging.

A kiosk mode, as in the browser-only OS Webconverger, should update itself rather quickly as it has no antivirus at all. Boots to a clean image on every reboot.

Microsoft has tried to implement something similar with varying success. Windows SteadyState for XP discarded all changes on reboot, Windows 7 Guest Mode allowed only writing to the user folder, and the latest "Assigned Access" mode for Windows 10 essentially creates a locked-down limited user with permission to only run a single app.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:45 am

In fact that is currently what I use Win 10 in Kiosk mode. It easy to set up and maintain.

Before I did this I to a clean snapshot of a fresh install and maintained it. It only had essential items. I had no use for whats installed on the main PC I was just using the VM for browsing.
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:54 am

It's definitely safer than running as admin.

Windows 10 Assigned Access mode is indeed the same as Windows 8's Kiosk mode. They had to change the name because it too clearly described what it was for. That also explains "Security Monthly Quality Rollup."
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:43 pm

I use Win 10 in Kiosk mode too. It is easy way save yourself.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:05 pm

Sorry that I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to throw in my $0.02 for Webroot. It does not just look for signatures, so it's more effective than most other A/V products. You can read a good description of how it operates at

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

If you have multiple machines to protect, you can find 3 or 5 license packs for a reasonable price. The list price for a single machine is on the pricey side, but I probably end up paying ~ $12/machine per year by finding a good deal on Amazon.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:34 pm

Another non-AntiVirus/VM solution is through a "smattering" of Sand-boxing.


1. There is Chrome and browsers based on Chrome.


2. Then there is Sandboxie for Windows.

https://www.sandboxie.com/


3. Finally, there is HyperOS for Windows.

http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/0704200 ... ftware.htm
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:52 pm

I love Kaspersky and I believe that its the best out there. Just purchase the Kaspersky AV
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:06 am

Aether wrote:
Sorry that I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to throw in my $0.02 for Webroot. It does not just look for signatures, so it's more effective than most other A/V products. You can read a good description of how it operates at

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

If you have multiple machines to protect, you can find 3 or 5 license packs for a reasonable price. The list price for a single machine is on the pricey side, but I probably end up paying ~ $12/machine per year by finding a good deal on Amazon.


Today Ars release new article: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/0 ... comments=1
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:48 am

Robotics wrote:
Aether wrote:
Sorry that I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to throw in my $0.02 for Webroot. It does not just look for signatures, so it's more effective than most other A/V products. You can read a good description of how it operates at

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

If you have multiple machines to protect, you can find 3 or 5 license packs for a reasonable price. The list price for a single machine is on the pricey side, but I probably end up paying ~ $12/machine per year by finding a good deal on Amazon.


Today Ars release new article: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/0 ... comments=1


Pretty sure every AV company has done something like this at one point. Kaspersky was breaking boxes a few years ago. McAfee had one about a decade which bricked Windows.
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:18 am

Robotics wrote:
Aether wrote:
Sorry that I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to throw in my $0.02 for Webroot. It does not just look for signatures, so it's more effective than most other A/V products. You can read a good description of how it operates at

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

If you have multiple machines to protect, you can find 3 or 5 license packs for a reasonable price. The list price for a single machine is on the pricey side, but I probably end up paying ~ $12/machine per year by finding a good deal on Amazon.


Today Ars release new article: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/0 ... comments=1


Funny but not as funny as this from last year:
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/how-to-compromise-enterprise-endpoint.html

Not sure if that story has already been posted in this thread.
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:21 am

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¹("Freely exploitable commodities" wrt the ISP plutocracy: we Citizen Consumers of course must pay un-justifiably exorbitant monthly fees for the "privilege" of being a freely exploitable commodity.)

Of course, that way instead of your ISP potentially selling your data, your ISP and your VPN could potentially be selling your data.
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:26 am

MileageMayVary wrote:
Robotics wrote:
Aether wrote:
Sorry that I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to throw in my $0.02 for Webroot. It does not just look for signatures, so it's more effective than most other A/V products. You can read a good description of how it operates at

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

If you have multiple machines to protect, you can find 3 or 5 license packs for a reasonable price. The list price for a single machine is on the pricey side, but I probably end up paying ~ $12/machine per year by finding a good deal on Amazon.

Today Ars release new article: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/0 ... comments=1

Pretty sure every AV company has done something like this at one point. Kaspersky was breaking boxes a few years ago. McAfee had one about a decade which bricked Windows.

Ars wrote:
Webroot was also flagging Facebook as a phishing site.

Wait, what? Why is that considered a false positive? :wink:
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:56 am

Seems to me, that in a fair amount of the events, Webroot was simply labeling the software for what it is. Spyware and PUP's. Somebody just forgot to tell it to ignore those...
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Wed May 24, 2017 3:42 pm

Avast!, Kaspersky (despite all the recent fears), F-Secure, NOD32, and Sophos. Windows Defender is also surprisingly good.

Basically, anything except Symantec or McAfee.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Thu May 25, 2017 8:08 am

MileageMayVary wrote:
Robotics wrote:
Aether wrote:
Sorry that I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to throw in my $0.02 for Webroot. It does not just look for signatures, so it's more effective than most other A/V products. You can read a good description of how it operates at

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2470312,00.asp

If you have multiple machines to protect, you can find 3 or 5 license packs for a reasonable price. The list price for a single machine is on the pricey side, but I probably end up paying ~ $12/machine per year by finding a good deal on Amazon.


Today Ars release new article: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/0 ... comments=1


Pretty sure every AV company has done something like this at one point. Kaspersky was breaking boxes a few years ago. McAfee had one about a decade which bricked Windows.


I was very happy that none of my machines chose to update from Webroot during that 13 minute window! Despite that major screw up, I'm still happy with Webroot. They handled the situation well and otherwise have a good product.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Fri May 26, 2017 9:00 am

Doctor Venture wrote:
Avast!, Kaspersky (despite all the recent fears), F-Secure, NOD32, and Sophos. Windows Defender is also surprisingly good.

Basically, anything except Symantec or McAfee.



ROFL!!!

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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:58 pm

Kaspersky release free antivirus protection

https://www.kaspersky.com/free-antivirus
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:10 pm

I thought I had read something controversial about Kaspersky's people being somehow connected to Russian spies. And I did, but sheesh, the internet is full of popups and scripts, so I couldn't get to the Bloomberg article just now.

Yeah, I know; more Russians. :roll: I probably should be more worried about Bloomberg's script malware, right? :o

But still. Just providing input. I use Windows Defender and the paid version of Malware Bytes, as well as a Firefox blacklist tool, but in the last 6 months, I've only engaged that one when I go to Bloomberg. Yeah, just now, in fact. :x
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:08 am

BIF, at this point you'd want a JavaScript disabler as well. Not for *every* site, but you'd definitely want to whitelist, not blacklist.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:00 pm

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BIF, at this point you'd want a JavaScript disabler as well. Not for *every* site, but you'd definitely want to whitelist, not blacklist.

What do you use? I stopped using NoScript after a while(though i have easy access separate FF profile setup with it), too much hassle, except when my google searches leave stackoverflow and friends and start hitting blogs. Just use several ad blockers.

I do have NoScript+ad blockers setup in an email only firefox profile that only allows a couple of scripts.

Ive been hit by too many huge sites, AV is too late. Its better to not load any ads(attacks) than to try to stop the attacks after they're on your computer. After personally getting a one off hit from NYTimes a long while ago, i go full ad blocker everywhere. Its just not safe.

Now that i use ad blockers all the time, i haven't had an issue yet. Just don't load the attacks in first place. To be clear, i stopped using anything by MS AV in Vista days.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:03 pm

blah, I use ScriptBlock (all one word), but IIRC it's a Chome/Vivaldi extension only.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:42 pm

Thanks!, i read its reviews. Seems it hasnt been active since beginning of this year and not near NoScript level of features and quality. Ill still give it a try later, been looking for something in Chrome camp for a while. Kept reading its just not possible with how Chrome is designed.
 
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Re: AntiVirus suggestions

Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:07 am

I think Kaspersky good.

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