Personal computing discussed
anotherengineer wrote:Hmmm well
I am on pro, so I can set my updates from not being automatic, however I still can't pick individual updates out of the list, that is a bit irritating.
The SP every 6 months, I'm kind of on the fence, I guess it's good for added features and things, but my personal preference would be more typical updates every patch Tuesday and a SP every 18 months or so. Usually they go well, but they can still break things, and when things could possibly break every 6 months, that's not good. This can be pushed out on Pro, not sure about home? I'm still on 1709.
I remember using the trial/pre-relase w10, and I find the new versions with more features, becoming like bloatware creep, but it could be placebo effect.
I wish they had a version like the Chinese government version, a basic OS with no frills, something suited to a workstation/gaming desktop (as a single user license like pro), since that is what I use my desktop for.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/253427/micr ... -scenarios
TPU wrote:Even though Microsoft have specified Destiny 2 as an example of a game crippled by the update, Reddit users have reported on other, older titles being severly affected as well. One user has stated that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is basically unplayable because any mouse movement makes his screen freeze.
Another user claims that a similar thing has happened to him in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 where he has seen massive drops in FPS while moving his character. To make things even worse, moving the mouse has rendered his game unplayable as well, which speaks volumes about the extent of "mouse degradation" problems Microsoft warned about in their official statement.
It's not just shooter games that have had their performance degraded by the update, as action RPG titles, such as God Eater 3, have also been affected according to a reddit user who reports that his in-game performance has gone from a smooth 4K 60FPS to a "lag fest" in certain levels.
DancinJack wrote:anotherengineer wrote:Hmmm well
I am on pro, so I can set my updates from not being automatic, however I still can't pick individual updates out of the list, that is a bit irritating.
The SP every 6 months, I'm kind of on the fence, I guess it's good for added features and things, but my personal preference would be more typical updates every patch Tuesday and a SP every 18 months or so. Usually they go well, but they can still break things, and when things could possibly break every 6 months, that's not good. This can be pushed out on Pro, not sure about home? I'm still on 1709.
I remember using the trial/pre-relase w10, and I find the new versions with more features, becoming like bloatware creep, but it could be placebo effect.
I wish they had a version like the Chinese government version, a basic OS with no frills, something suited to a workstation/gaming desktop (as a single user license like pro), since that is what I use my desktop for.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/253427/micr ... -scenarios
That's all well and good, but that particular update wasn't exactly a "bloatware" update. It was (primarily) Retpoline! These are security updates that people SHOULD be taking. It's unfortunate that their particular implementation degraded your GPU/mouse performance for a little while until they fix it, but i'm personally willing to live with that. Just look at the list of issues in that update.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... -kb4482887
Like I said, I'm willing to live with some (hopefully) short-term degradation for the boatload of good fixes in there. That's just me though.TPU wrote:Even though Microsoft have specified Destiny 2 as an example of a game crippled by the update, Reddit users have reported on other, older titles being severly affected as well. One user has stated that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is basically unplayable because any mouse movement makes his screen freeze.
Another user claims that a similar thing has happened to him in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 where he has seen massive drops in FPS while moving his character. To make things even worse, moving the mouse has rendered his game unplayable as well, which speaks volumes about the extent of "mouse degradation" problems Microsoft warned about in their official statement.
It's not just shooter games that have had their performance degraded by the update, as action RPG titles, such as God Eater 3, have also been affected according to a reddit user who reports that his in-game performance has gone from a smooth 4K 60FPS to a "lag fest" in certain levels.
oh GOD NO NOT MODERN WARFARE TWO AND THREE??!?!?!?!? (ok i'm done)
FWIW I do think Windows should be smaller and simpler. It would go a long way, but this is where we are and what we have to accept if we want to use modern Windows.
DancinJack wrote:It's unfortunate that their particular implementation degraded your GPU/mouse performance for a little while until they fix it, but i'm personally willing to live with that.
Yan wrote:My office has only now moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and pretty much everybody hates it, to my surprise and delight.
Part of the complaints are more about the switch from Office 2010 to Office 2016, however.
whm1974 wrote:My my I have long forgotten this thread even exist... Well after reading the most recent posts and since it now Sept 14 2020, I am going to have to ask: Has Windows 10 improved since the Day I started this Thread? Or are there still major deal breaking issues that I still have very good reasons to remain the Linux Only User I have been since sort of late 2014?
Waco wrote:whm1974 wrote:My my I have long forgotten this thread even exist... Well after reading the most recent posts and since it now Sept 14 2020, I am going to have to ask: Has Windows 10 improved since the Day I started this Thread? Or are there still major deal breaking issues that I still have very good reasons to remain the Linux Only User I have been since sort of late 2014?
There haven't been major deal breaking issues since launch day.
/signed, Linux user, Mac user, and Windows user
whm1974 wrote:Waco wrote:There haven't been major deal breaking issues since launch day.
/signed, Linux user, Mac user, and Windows user
Currently as far as Windows games goes, SteamPlay(Proton) does play a good number of them on Linux. The only Windows application I do want to run on Linux would be DAZ3d. It does run using Wine, but the separate Tool used to download the Extras and Add-ons doesn't always places them correctly.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Waco wrote:There haven't been major deal breaking issues since launch day.
/signed, Linux user, Mac user, and Windows user
Currently as far as Windows games goes, SteamPlay(Proton) does play a good number of them on Linux. The only Windows application I do want to run on Linux would be DAZ3d. It does run using Wine, but the separate Tool used to download the Extras and Add-ons doesn't always places them correctly.
So... "I have partially functional workarounds for running certain Windows apps on Linux" is relevant to the question "How bad is Windows?" (and the fact that in reality it just isn't all that bad...) in what way?
If someone needs Windows, they should probably just run Windows.
Aranarth wrote:I honestly don't see what everyone issue is.
My biggest response is this is change. Life is change. Get over it and move on.
The plants I support are slowly all moving to windows 10 and that is just the way it is.
I have it on ALL of my machines at home including the ones the family uses and it is slowly getting better and using less bandwidth for updates.
M$ is slowly figuring out that they need ONE version of windows 10 that gets support and maybe a LTSB for businesses but that is it. Thye really shouldn't try to support the last 6 versions of windows 10.
Captain Ned wrote:Even on 7, this was easily avoided by allowing Patch Tuesday to occur on schedule.
just brew it! wrote:Updates is one area where Microsoft still has room for improvement. But it's a lot better than it was.
whm1974 wrote:just brew it! wrote:Updates is one area where Microsoft still has room for improvement. But it's a lot better than it was.
Well I will admit the Windows 8 Updates was a Major Improvement over Previous versions of Windows.
whm1974 wrote:Aranarth wrote:I honestly don't see what everyone issue is.
My biggest response is this is change. Life is change. Get over it and move on.
The plants I support are slowly all moving to windows 10 and that is just the way it is.
I have it on ALL of my machines at home including the ones the family uses and it is slowly getting better and using less bandwidth for updates.
M$ is slowly figuring out that they need ONE version of windows 10 that gets support and maybe a LTSB for businesses but that is it. Thye really shouldn't try to support the last 6 versions of windows 10.
Has Windows 10 finally moved away from Installing a bunch of updates, requiring Reboot, Updates again, another Reboot, Repeat for Hours...? May the Daemons help you if need to do updates for Applications as well.