DancinJack wrote:I'm not doubting that at all, but was that YT Kids? i'm not sure it was, but it at least sounds like you can customize quite a bit with this newer deal. Might be worth a shot at least to see if it'll work now. I don't trust YT in general, but maybe Google's special algo got something right finally.
Glorious wrote:DancinJack wrote:I'm not doubting that at all, but was that YT Kids? i'm not sure it was, but it at least sounds like you can customize quite a bit with this newer deal. Might be worth a shot at least to see if it'll work now. I don't trust YT in general, but maybe Google's special algo got something right finally.
Yes, it absolutely was.
The NYT literally says that, and I can confirm it personally. There was ridiculously inappropriate stuff slipping through on there, beyond what Chuckaluphagus describes as "Tame" (which in and of itself is horrifying). I've seen stuff personally that bad and much worse, and yes, just on youtube kids. On regular youtube starting with a kids video you were likely to get something inappopriate within just 3 autoplays, which I think was why the filtering wasn't even remotely working: there was just an incredible amount of insanity out there linked to "children".
So, while things have gotten much better since November of 2017 (That is, like just *FOUR* months ago), it still isn't something I'd trust. Even with the multiple crackdowns and schemes since then.
TheEmrys wrote:I have a 5yearold,and he does not have control privileges. Anything on TV or tablet is there because I put it there. He does not watch anything on YouTube, but we do have an extensive media file collection on our Plex server as well as Netflix, Amazon Prime, amd Hulu. We do not have any paid TV, either. I just don't see the sense in giving my son control over anything with media.
Tablets are for games and books.
TV is for movies.
We have played Mario Kart on Wii 3 times now, and he loves it.
If we are flying, he gets movies on tablets.
Beyond that, he will not be using the internet until it is more of a need. At this age, it just isn't something I find is a need. And there are simply too many risks. Lord knows, I don't want to see targeted ads based on what a 5 year old wants to do.
Glorious wrote:There was ridiculously inappropriate stuff slipping through on there, beyond what Chuckaluphagus describes as "Tame" (which in and of itself is horrifying).
whm1974 wrote:While I don't have kids, I am wondering at what age do you guys think kids should be allowed online? 10, 12? I actually been asked this a few times, and if I recall I think I said 12 off the top of my head.
Chuckaluphagus wrote:In my own defense, I was furious to see an animated Hitler singing on the television screen, and shut it down immediately.
leor wrote:I’m all for rules, but this is a tech site n stuff, I’m happy to google ideas, but I was hoping some badass TR dads have gone through this already.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:If I were less lazy I would setup a local plex server and have an AppleTV or something point to that and that only. Then rip whatever content you want and put it on there. Might not be as cost advantageous, but that is the only foolproof method. For everything else you are relying on an algorythm.
The other option is physical discs/vhs. They can learn to operate them at a remarkably early age.
kvndoom wrote:The real fun is going to start in kindergarten, leor, when she's in class with a bunch of kids whose Parents of the Year let their 5 year olds carry cell phones.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:kvndoom wrote:The real fun is going to start in kindergarten, leor, when she's in class with a bunch of kids whose Parents of the Year let their 5 year olds carry cell phones.
That’s one of the many reasons that we homeschool. Those same parents expect the teachers to raise their kids.
arunphilip wrote:At some point, its worth having a talk with kids about the existence of "bad" content and empower them - "if it makes you feel bad or strange, ask dad/mum to check it". My view here is that while we can supervise them in many places, there is going to be the case where they are going to come across something, by accident, or by the influence of others (e.g. playing with other kids), so might as well get their internal filter/conscience tuned.
layerup wrote:As an additional side effect, if you are limiting what kids/teens can see/experience, it will make them disdainful of your rules.
pink_flower wrote:What about the kid search engines? Are they going to get the job done or it just protects the pics and articles and not videos?
Chuckaluphagus wrote:20 years and maybe billions of dollars have been thrown at creating algorithms to detect and filter "objectionable" material on the Internet, and they just do not work effectively when used in the real-world.