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Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:54 pm

I just bought a 1 TB NVME SSD and I will need to close the existing 512GB NVME SSD to it. So I'm looking for a recommendation for free or inexpensive cloning software.

Stuff you've used personally only please.

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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:16 pm

Macrium Reflect's free version will be all you need, as the free version allows for resizing clones.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:17 pm

Cloning is way less common than it used to be, since Windows 10 can be reactivated after reinstalling if the license is tied to your MS account (sometimes).

CloneZilla - easy live CD
Acronis - never tried it
Macrium - never tried it

...but i'm sure others here have and will mention them.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:44 pm

I'm a fairly heavy user of Clonezilla. It'll do the job but the UI can be a bit intimidating if you're a less knowledgeable user.

Pretty often new drives will come with a 'free' license for a cloning program. IIRC both Samsung and Crucial drives do, and maybe others.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:06 pm

Intels data migration software will work as long as you have at least one Intel storage device in your rig; IIRC.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:27 pm

I've used both Acronis True Image and Macrium Reflect for this operation. Macrium Reflect is the more polished and intuitive product. The free trial version will do everything that you need in one operation. If you're a TR subscriber, you get a discount on the paid versions of Reflect.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:29 pm

Thank you for all your replies thus far. I appreciate it.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:46 pm

Another thumbs-up for Macrium Reflect (though I probably haven't used the most recent version, I have used several previous versions over the years).
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:06 pm

Currently I use either free Aomei product; Partition assistant to partition and clone, and Backupper. https://www.disk-partition.com/free-par ... nager.html or https://www.backup-utility.com/free-bac ... tware.html It reboots to a linux program to complete complex tasks.

Over the years Macrium Reflect free has had many people suggest it on Anandtech, but the above works so well I never used it.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:41 am

Another +1 on Macrium Reflect

Used it for my last two migrations and it's about as easy a drive cloning experience as I've ever had.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:43 am

Thanks to Newegg and smart saver shipping (Fedex Surepost) I won't have to worry about cloning until next Friday. A whole week to go from the LA area to the Seattle area. :roll:

Thank you guys for your input though. Much appreciated.


Edit - I guess I forget that monday is a holiday for some.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:07 pm

Another satisfied Macrium Reflect user here. It will do exactly what you need it to do. Also, transferring from a smaller drive to a larger drive of the same type is pretty much the easiest possible thing. It's the other combinations that sometimes get hairy.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:25 pm

What I like about Macrium Reflect’s interface is that it lets you set up all the operations - initialize, create partitions, re-arrange their order, clone and resize partitions , etc. all at once. Then you click the button and it does everything. With Acronis. I could do many of the same things, but each step had to be performed individually. With slow drives, each step takes minutes or hours. I much prefer being able to launch Reflect’s tasks and leave the computer to finish on its own.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 pm

Not that the OP asked, but just in case anyone was wondering...

Two excellent packages for MacOS:
Carbon Copy Cloner
Super Duper

I've used both and neither has ever failed me.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:28 pm

I've been using Casper cloning utility for a few years from this company: https://www.fssdev.com/
It works well for my cloning needs as I like to keep removable bootable clones of my Windows OS drives that I can swap out without having to reinstall. I've done transitions from HDD to SDD to NVMe, multiple sizes and back again with very few issues. It does require a subscription but I like that after the initial clone it has a smart clone feature that will update the bootable drive very quickly on subsequent copies. The free version tools from Macrium and EasUS work well too from what I've expereinced but they seemed to take longer on copies.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:30 pm

Macrium is my go-to.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:34 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
it lets you set up all the operations - initialize, create partitions, re-arrange their order, clone and resize partitions , etc. all at once. Then you click the button and it does everything.

All the common freemium ones work similarly: EaseUs, Aoemi...
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:23 pm

As everyone else has said, Macrium Reflect. The USB bootable version works great and it's pretty easy to use.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:33 pm

meerkt wrote:
All the common freemium ones work similarly: EaseUs, Aoemi...
That's correct, that is to say, they don't work. Not even the paid version of EaseUs does.

I'll try Reflect next time I have the urge to try and save my previous Win10 install.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:54 pm

What was the problem?

I've successfully used EaseUs' a handful of times. A bit clunky, but seemingly most of them are to some degree (in the past, Paragon's, GParted, maybe even PartitionMagic).
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:59 pm

meerkt wrote:
What was the problem?

I've successfully used EaseUs' a handful of times in the past. A bit clunky, but seemingly most of them are to some degree (in the past, Paragon's, GParted, maybe even PartitionMagic).


I don't have the UI in front of me, but IIRC it spits out errors on System Clone, asks to make a Bootable USB drive. Spoiler: The USB drive attempt fails too. My understanding is that GPT system disk installs are part of the problem, even though you'd think that would be standard by now.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:29 pm

I've only used it to clone MBR boot+system partitions. There was no boot disk required for that.
If memory serves, I may have had to manually edit the partition signature in the registry or else Windows couldn't find itself.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:32 pm

meerkt wrote:
I've only used it to clone MBR boot+system partitions. There was no boot disk required for that.
If memory serves, I may have had to manually edit the partition signature in the registry or else Windows couldn't find itself.

That's not exactly a ringing endorsement?
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:47 pm

Yeah, well. There's barely any software nowadays that could get a ringing endorsement.
I think it might have been the result of cloning into a partially partitioned drive, though one would expect stuff to be handled automatically also in such a case.

EDIT: On second thought, it's been a while and I no longer remember for sure. Another possibility is that I booted post-clone with both drives connected (to verify the copy), and it's just Windows that changed the signature of the clone, with the original, as C:, taking precedence.

Not really comparable, but... it's at least better than DISK2VHD, from the generally nice (ex-)Sysinternals, which for me created completely unbootable images. The manual fix here is much more involved.
 
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:35 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
What I like about Macrium Reflect’s interface is that it lets you set up all the operations - initialize, create partitions, re-arrange their order, clone and resize partitions , etc. all at once. Then you click the button and it does everything. With Acronis. I could do many of the same things, but each step had to be performed individually. With slow drives, each step takes minutes or hours. I much prefer being able to launch Reflect’s tasks and leave the computer to finish on its own.


What version are you using?

I'm using the free version and it will copy a partition over to another disk but will put it in the exact same place as it occupied on the original disk. (say... 50 Gig from the start of disk).

No "re-arrange their order and resize partitions" that I've found.

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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:43 pm

Working from memory here (and typing on my phone):
Set up your clone operation.
In the lower image, select the last partition and remove it from the operation. Then remove the next-to-last partition. Now add the last partition from the top (source) image, set its size if necessary, and add the next-to-last partition from the source drive.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:50 pm

+1 for Macrium Reflect. Use the Free version, it is more than sufficient for your purpose.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:06 pm

I've used Reflect for years. Lately used it to consecutively clone one Win10 install to 2 new hard drives while doing some trouble shooting (original SSD to other SSD to yet another (nvme) SSD. Didn't want some huge interruption during the process.

Once the hardware mess settles down, I'll go back to the nvme ssd and do a clean install since this all started as an in-place upgrade from Windows 7.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:05 pm

Acronis for 15 years.
When I like something I support the developer.
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Re: Disk Cloning software recommendation

Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:31 am

adampk17 wrote:
Thanks to Newegg and smart saver shipping (Fedex Surepost) I won't have to worry about cloning until next Friday. A whole week to go from the LA area to the Seattle area. :roll:

Thank you guys for your input though. Much appreciated.


Edit - I guess I forget that monday is a holiday for some.
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