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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:30 pm

I wonder how my old but carefully tuned x79/Ivy-E system would do. It's a 4930K at 4.6GHz with quad-channel DDR3-2400 CL10 memory. I'd especially like to know how single-threaded performance stacks up against Ryzen at say, 4GHz.

But it only seems to be available through the Windows store? Guess I won't be running this benchmark till next January! :P
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:49 pm

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Windows Store only? Ugh. WHY.


Desktop version:
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/maxon-cinebench/

Not sure why Maxxon doesn't just list it on their site considering it's supported on Windows 7 which is decidedly lacking in Windows Store access but oh well.
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:48 pm

Appreciate the link! I just can't bring myself to use Windows Store apps. GFWL still has left a bad taste in my mouth.

EDIT: No tweaking, just running out of the box:

MC: 2285
SC: 442
MP Ratio: 5.17x

Not bad from a barely overclocked 6700K.
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:03 am

I got some more benchmarks:

Ryzen 7 2700X:
MC: 3913
SC: 425
MP ratio: 9.20x

Core i7-7500U (dual core mobile with Hyperthreading)
MC: 736
SC: 305
MP ratio: 2.41x

AMD A10-5750M (quad core mobile)
MC: 389
SC: 123
MP ratio: 3.16x

Celeron N2930 (quad core mobile Atom)
MC: 267
SC: 72
MP ratio: 3.69x
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:33 am

It would take you 2,363 continuous hours or 98 days,11 hours, and 35 minutes of gameplay to complete your Steam library.
In this time you could travel to Venus one time.
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:52 am

i5-9600K at 4.9GHz

2905 MT
499 ST
5.82x MT Ratio

Not bad considering the lack of thread count...

I'll add numbers for my laptop a bit later.

EDIT: Added numbers for i7-4700HQ on my laptop

1327 MT
273 ST
4.85x MT Ratio
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:44 am

Dual Xeon Gold 6154

MT - 14,295
ST - 367
MP - 38.92x
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:03 pm

Haitch wrote:
Dual Xeon Gold 6154

MT - 14,295
ST - 367
MP - 38.92x


Now that's what I'm talking about! Anyone with a 3 or 4 die Threadripper want to contribute? Surely someone out there must have one.
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:22 pm

techguy wrote:
Haitch wrote:
Dual Xeon Gold 6154

MT - 14,295
ST - 367
MP - 38.92x


Now that's what I'm talking about! Anyone with a 3 or 4 die Threadripper want to contribute? Surely someone out there must have one.

2990WX (@4GHz) - 13469 (not my result, but there are plenty on the nets to check out)
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:27 pm

DancinJack wrote:
techguy wrote:
Haitch wrote:
Dual Xeon Gold 6154

MT - 14,295
ST - 367
MP - 38.92x


Now that's what I'm talking about! Anyone with a 3 or 4 die Threadripper want to contribute? Surely someone out there must have one.

2990WX (@4GHz) - 13469 (not my result, but there are plenty on the nets to check out)


Thanks for posting that. Scaling seems about in line with 2x Threadripper 1950x results, though at higher clocks. Interesting that 4 more Intel cores are able to outscore this at significantly lower clock speeds... I wonder which factor contributes more to this result: the AVX advantage for Intel or memory bandwidth limitation for Threadripper?
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:33 pm

Guessing it's the AVX advantage (though I have nothing to back that up, just a hunch).
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:54 pm

I'm guessing better AVX512 as well, the Xeon Golds are currently paired only with 2133 RAM.
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:37 pm

Haitch wrote:
I'm guessing better AVX512 as well, the Xeon Golds are currently paired only with 2133 RAM.


The bandwidth bottleneck on Threadripper would be due to 4 dies sharing 4 channels of RAM, where 2 sockets of Xeon golds should be 6 channels per socket.
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:49 pm

I really wish there was a Linux build. I have a few monster machines that would eat this for breakfast that would be fun to bench (dual 32 core EYPC w/ high clocks and 16 channels of DRAM). :P
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:16 pm

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I really wish there was a Linux build. I have a few monster machines that would eat this for breakfast that would be fun to bench (dual 32 core EYPC w/ high clocks and 16 channels of DRAM). :P


I don't know about R20, but R15 ran just fine for me using WINE.

Frankly I'd be more interested in getting straight Embree to process the same scene directly where I could get 100% of the rendering performance.
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:50 pm

Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 8 x 16GB @ 2133)

MT: 7,358
ST: 214
MP Ratio: 34.37
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:28 pm

Haitch wrote:
Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 8 x 16GB @ 2133)

MT: 7,358
ST: 214
MP Ratio: 34.37

Why half the RAM channels populated? Cost?
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:29 pm

Computerbase's users compiled a whole bunch of CB20 results:
https://www.computerbase.de/2019-03/cin ... enchmarks/
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:35 pm

Waco wrote:
Haitch wrote:
Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 8 x 16GB @ 2133)

MT: 7,358
ST: 214
MP Ratio: 34.37

Why half the RAM channels populated? Cost?


It's up for sale, rest of the RAM deployed elsewhere. I'll re-test it over the weekend fully populated.
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:37 pm

Ran the test on some of mine. I only ran the multi-threaded benchmark, as ST was taking too much time on the older machines.

Core 2 Duo T5600 - Merom 2C/2T - SSSE3
1.83GHz, 3GB dual channel DDR2-667, Win7
Score: 187

Core 2 Duo E8600 - Wolfdale 2C/2T - SSE4.1
3.33GHz, 8GB dual channel DDR3-1333, Win7
430

Core i5 7200U - Kaby Lake 2C/4T - AVX2
Averaging 2.9GHz, 8GB dual channel DDR4-2133, Win10
756

Phenom II X6 1090T - Thuban 6C/6T - SSE4A
4.07GHz, 16GB dual channel DDR3-1760, Win7
1287

Core i7 6700 - Skylake 4C/8T - AVX2
Averaging 3.7GHz on a crappy Lenovo board, 16GB of crappy DDR4-2133 (dual channel), Win7
2010

Core i7 4930K - Ivy Bridge-E 6C/12T - AVX
4.6GHz, 32GB quad channel DDR3-2400, Win7
2703

Ryzen 7 1700 - Summit Ridge 8C/16T - AVX2
4.1GHz, 32GB dual channel DDR4-3200, Win10
4196

You know, I don't think AMD and its fanboys have anything to worry about. :)
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:05 am

If someone can figure out how to run it on WinServer, I'd love to test out the 2xXeon 6130 machine here at work...
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:42 am

Usacomp2k3 wrote:
If someone can figure out how to run it on WinServer, I'd love to test out the 2xXeon 6130 machine here at work...


This portable version should work on a recent version of Windows

I actually used this version to test my Windows 8.1 laptop. Yeah, not moving to 10 on that one because of audio issues.
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:39 am

Perfect.
My work laptop - i7-7700hq. Held turbo @ 3.4ghz the whole time = 1754
My "server" at work for heavy calculations . Dual Xeon Gold 6130. Held turbo of 2.79 the whole time = 10,927
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:51 am

i7-4790K at stock
4x8 GiB Crucial DDR3-1600
Win 8.1

1908 cb Multi
384 cb Single
4.97x MP
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:32 am

Lower ambient today (24°C) so tried again (my previous run was at 26°C ambient):

9900k stock:
MC: 4867
SC: 482
Ratio: 10.09x

9900k MCE on:
MC: 4882
SC: 518
Ratio: 9.42x

So MCE on is now slightly faster than stock, but performance is still entirely limited by cooling. 200 point increase from a 2°C drop in ambients lol
There are folks on /r/overclocking that are getting 5100+ scores out of 5GHz 9900k when there's zero throttling.

Bonus laptop score:

i3-7100U (ASUS Vivobook)
MC: 455
SC: 225
Ratio: 2.02x
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:46 am

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MT: 3431
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:18 am

3977

i9700K 5.2 with -2 AVX, DRR4 3600 16-16-16-36
that's with browser/discord/steam etc. I wonder if it liked higher memory bandwidth more than lower latency. It sure does love hyperthreading I guess, just like the old cinebench
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:11 pm

Reran the Epyc with 16 * 32GB @ 2400 instead of 8 * 16GB @ 2133:

Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 16 x 32GB @ 2400)
MT: 8,850
ST: 260
MP Ratio: 34.10

Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 8 x 16GB @ 2133)

MT: 7,358
ST: 214
MP Ratio: 34.37
 
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:02 pm

i7-5775C stock
MT: 1801
ST: 362
MP Ratio 4.98x
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Re: Cinebench R20 is out. Officially banned from AMD demos

Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:20 pm

Haitch wrote:
Reran the Epyc with 16 * 32GB @ 2400 instead of 8 * 16GB @ 2133:

Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 16 x 32GB @ 2400)
MT: 8,850
ST: 260
MP Ratio: 34.10

Dual Epyc 7301 @ 2.2GHz (with 8 x 16GB @ 2133)

MT: 7,358
ST: 214
MP Ratio: 34.37

Wow, that's not great compared to my Xeon 6130's. Twice the cores and ~10% slower? Is that solely AVX?

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