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Dec. 19
Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
Alcorn State (9-3) vs. North Carolina Agricultural & Technical (9-2)
Atlanta | Georgia Dome | Noon on ABC

Cure Bowl
San Jose State (5-7) vs. Georgia State (6-6)
Orlando | Orlando Citrus Bowl | Noon on CBSSN

Gildan New Mexico Bowl
Arizona (6-6) vs. New Mexico (7-5)
Albuquerque | University Stadium | 2 p.m. on ESPN

Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl
Brigham Young (9-3) vs. Utah (9-3)
Las Vegas | Sam Boyd Stadium | 3:30 p.m. on ABC

Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Ohio (8-4) vs. Appalachian State (10-2)
Montgomery, Alabama | Cramton Bowl | 5:30 p.m. on ESPN

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Arkansas State (9-3) vs. Louisiana Tech (8-4)
New Orleans | Mercedes-Benz Superdome | 9 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 21
Miami Beach Bowl
Western Kentucky (11-2) vs. South Florida (8-4)
Miami, Florida | Marlins Park | 2:30 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 22
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Akron (7-5) vs. Utah State (6-6)
Boise, Idaho | Albertsons Stadium | 3:30 p.m. on ESPN

Marmot Boca Raton Bowl
Toledo (9-2) vs. Temple (10-3)
Boca Raton, Florida | FAU Stadium | 7 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 23
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl
Boise State (8-4) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
San Diego | Qualcomm Stadium | 4:30 p.m. on ESPN

GoDaddy Bowl
Georgia Southern (8-4) vs. Bowling Green (10-3)
Mobile, Alabama | Ladd-Peebles Stadium | 8 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 24
Popeyes Bahamas Bowl
Middle Tennessee (7-5) vs. Western Michigan (7-5)
Nassau, Bahamas | Robinson National Stadium | Noon on ESPN

Hawai'i Bowl
San Diego State (10-3) vs. Cincinnati (7-5)
Honolulu | Aloha Stadium | 8 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 26
St. Petersburg Bowl
Connecticut (6-6) vs. Marshall (9-3)
St. Petersburg, Florida | Tropicana Field | 11 a.m. on ESPN

Hyundai Sun Bowl
Miami (8-4) vs. Washington State (8-4)
El Paso, Texas | Sun Bowl | 2 p.m. on CBS

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl
Washington (6-6) vs. Southern Miss (9-4)
Dallas | Cotton Bowl | 2:20 p.m. on ESPN

New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Indiana (6-6) vs. Duke (7-5)
Bronx, New York | Yankee Stadium | 3:30 p.m. on ABC

Camping World Independence Bowl
Tulsa (6-6) vs. Virginia Tech (6-6)
Shreveport, Louisiana | Independence Stadium | 5:45 p.m. on ESPN

Foster Farms Bowl
California-Los Angeles (8-4) vs. Nebraska (5-7)
Santa Clara, California | Levi's Stadium | 9:15 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 28
Military Bowl presented By Northrop Grumman
Pittsburgh (8-4) vs. Navy (9-2)
Annapolis, Maryland | Jack Stephens Field at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium | 2:30 p.m. on ESPN

Quick Lane Bowl
Central Michigan (7-5) vs. Minnesota (5-7)
Detroit | Ford Field | 5 p.m. on ESPN2

Dec. 29
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
California (7-5) vs. Air Force (8-5)
Ft. Worth, Texas | Amon G. Carter Stadium | 2 p.m. on ESPN

Russell Athletic Bowl
North Carolina (11-2) vs. Baylor (9-3)
Orlando | Orlando Citrus Bowl | 5:30 p.m. on ESPN

NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl
Nevada (6-6) vs. Colorado State (7-5)
Tucson, Arizona | Arizona Stadium | 7:30 p.m. on Campus Insiders

AdvoCare V100 Texas Bowl
Louisiana State (8-3) vs. Texas Tech (7-5)
Houston | NRG Stadium | 9 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 30
Birmingham Bowl
Auburn (6-6) vs. Memphis (9-3)
Birmingham, Alabama | Legion Field | Noon on ESPN

Belk Bowl
North Carolina State (7-5) vs. Mississippi State (8-4)
Charlotte, N.C. | Bank of America Stadium | 3:30 p.m. on ESPN

Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Texas Agrigultural & Mechanical (8-4) vs. Louisville (7-5)
Nashville | LP Field | 7 p.m. on ESPN

Holiday Bowl
Southern California (8-5) vs. Wisconsin (9-3)
San Diego | Qualcomm Stadium | 10:30 p.m. on ESPN

Dec. 31
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
Houston (12-1) vs. Florida State (10-2)
Atlanta | Georgia Dome | Noon on ESPN

College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 4 Oklahoma (11-1) vs. No. 1 Clemson (13-0)
Miami Gardens, Florida | Sun Life Stadium | 4 p.m. on ESPN

College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 3 Michigan State (12-1) vs. No. 2 Alabama (12-1)
Arlington, Texas | AT&T Stadium | 8 p.m. on ESPN

Jan. 1
Outback Bowl
Northwestern (10-2) vs. Tennessee (8-4)
Tampa | Raymond James Stadium | Noon on ESPN2

Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
Michigan (9-3) vs. Florida (10-3)
Orlando | Orlando Citrus Bowl | 1 p.m. on ABC

BattleFrog Fiesta Bowl
Notre Dame (10-2) vs. Ohio State (11-1)
Glendale, Arizona | University of Phoenix Stadium | 1 p.m. on ESPN

Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
Stanford (11-2) vs. Iowa (12-1)
Pasadena, California | Rose Bowl | 5 p.m. on ESPN

Allstate Sugar Bowl
Oklahoma State (10-2) vs. Mississippi (9-3)
New Orleans | Mercedes-Benz Superdome | 8:30 p.m. on ESPN

Jan. 2
TaxSlayer Bowl
Penn State (7-5) vs. Georgia (9-3)
Jacksonville, Florida | EverBank Field | Noon on ESPN

AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Kansas State (6-6) vs. Arkansas (7-5)
Memphis | Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium | 3:20 p.m. on ESPN

Valero Alamo Bowl
Oregon (9-3) vs. Texas Christian (10-2)
San Antonio, Texas | Alamodome | 6:45 p.m. on ESPN

Motel 6 Cactus Bowl
West Virginia (7-5) vs. Arizona State (6-6)
Phoenix | Chase Field | 10:15 p.m. on ESPN

Jan. 11
College Football Playoff National Championship Presented by AT&T
Glendale, Arizona | University of Phoenix Stadium | 8:30 p.m. on ESPN

tanker27 · Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:30 am

Did LSU not get a bowl this year?

EDIT: DOH, NVM you listed them as Louisiana State.....

RickyTick · Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:40 am

tanker27 wrote:
Did LSU not get a bowl this year?

EDIT: DOH, NVM you listed them as Louisiana State.....

They're listed above as Louisiana State.

It's a shame that so many teams are .500 or below getting into a bowl game. There's got to be a better system.

homerdog · Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:28 am

CLEMSON CLEMSON CLEMSON.

Can you tell I'm a Clemson grad?

tanker27 · Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:34 am

RickyTick wrote:
It's a shame that so many teams are .500 or below getting into a bowl game. There's got to be a better system.

Expand the playoffs. Make it a true playoff system, 8 or even 16, we rank teams in the top 25 so why not. Then get rid of the unneeded bowls. I know this will hurt some of those stadiums' bottom line as they will lie dormant during this time period but meh.

atari030 · Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:25 am

tanker27 wrote:
Expand the playoffs. Make it a true playoff system, 8 or even 16, we rank teams in the top 25 so why not. Then get rid of the unneeded bowls. I know this will hurt some of those stadiums' bottom line as they will lie dormant during this time period but meh.

An 8 team playoff makes the most sense to me. I have to think that's coming. 16 is probably too large of a bracket.

mattshwink · Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:49 am

atari030 wrote:
An 8 team playoff makes the most sense to me. I have to think that's coming. 16 is probably too large of a bracket.

The current system is under contract for another 10 years (11, including this one). So, unfortunately, 6 or 8 is not going to happen anytime soon.

Another round (expanding to 6 or

would be relatively easy to do. Currently the season for all teams (besides Army and Navy) ends the weekend after Thanksgiving. The playoff games don't start 3.5 weeks after that. It would be easy to schedule a round (this year the Saturday would be the 19th).

RickyTick · Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:08 pm

homerdog wrote:
CLEMSON CLEMSON CLEMSON.

Can you tell I'm a Clemson grad?

I'm a UNC grad and we were NOT offsides!!!! I knew we would need a couple of breaks to beat Clemson. The Clemson punter going for it was one break, and the onside kick recovery was the other.

GG

Waco · Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:55 pm

homerdog wrote:
CLEMSON CLEMSON CLEMSON.

Can you tell I'm a Clemson grad?

Ditto. I was on pins and needles Saturday!

I can't wait for the new years game, and hopefully the game on the 11th!

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:54 am

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-sa ... 57782.html

Dr. Saturday wrote:
40. AutoNation Cure Bowl (Dec. 19, Orlando, Florida) – Georgia State (6-6) vs. San Jose State (5-7)
This bowl is as bad as it gets.

idchafee · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:32 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/ranking-the-bowls-1-40--excluding-the-national-championship---231057782.html
Dr. Saturday wrote:
40. AutoNation Cure Bowl (Dec. 19, Orlando, Florida) – Georgia State (6-6) vs. San Jose State (5-7)
This bowl is as bad as it gets.

Anyone wagering on this game is either an alum or a real degenerate gambler.

That being said take Georgia State and lay the 4.

I'm hoping for a Michigan State title run. I suppose Clemson would be OK too. Anyone but Alabama, really. I don't like Nick Saban, and I dislike the SEC in general.

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:42 am

idchafee wrote:
I dislike the SEC in general.

Why?

mattshwink · Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:04 am

tanker27 wrote:
idchafee wrote:
I dislike the SEC in general.

Why?

I feel the same. so here is my 2 cents: I have friends who are SEC alums/fans and who are generally insufferable when it comes to the SEC.....how much better they are than all other conferences, how much better their fans are too. A couple are even Alabama fans, and they believe championships are their birthright. Also, Saban's losing face is priceless.

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:42 am

We just take our college ball seriously in the south. And really you cannot debate the fact that the SEC is truly the hardest division in NCAAF. Every year they [the SEC] routinely eat each other up. But the proof is in the pudding:

SEC vs. ACC: 290-144-10
SEC vs. Big 12: 83-67-6
SEC vs. Big Ten: 83-57-2
SEC vs. Pac-12: 68-40-5

I also have to agree Alabama fans are insufferable.

Waco · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:00 am

mattshwink wrote:
tanker27 wrote:
idchafee wrote:
I dislike the SEC in general.

Why?

I feel the same. so here is my 2 cents: I have friends who are SEC alums/fans and who are generally insufferable when it comes to the SEC.....how much better they are than all other conferences, how much better their fans are too. A couple are even Alabama fans, and they believe championships are their birthright. Also, Saban's losing face is priceless.

This, so very much this.

tanker27 wrote:
We just take our college ball seriously in the south. And really you cannot debate the fact that the SEC is truly the hardest division in NCAAF. Every year they [the SEC] routinely eat each other up. But the proof is in the pudding:

SEC vs. ACC: 290-144-10
SEC vs. Big 12: 83-67-6
SEC vs. Big Ten: 83-57-2
SEC vs. Pac-12: 68-40-5

I also have to agree Alabama fans are insufferable.

Are those stats ranked games only? I don't really think a top-25 team beating an unranked team in any division is something worth crowing about.

idchafee · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:07 pm

mattshwink wrote:
I feel the same. so here is my 2 cents: I have friends who are SEC alums/fans and who are generally insufferable when it comes to the SEC.....how much better they are than all other conferences, how much better their fans are too. A couple are even Alabama fans, and they believe championships are their birthright. Also, Saban's losing face is priceless.

This is part of it, fans tend to be insufferable when their teams win (hello Yankee fans), but really for me its mostly the universities themselves. The majority of the assbag coaches are in the SEC, and the universities sell their soul for W's, letting in kids who can barely sign their name because they're 6'5 and 290 and can run a 4.4. I hate the college sports system. If a kid is a dumbass but can ball, let him go to some minor league and ball and not waste his time (and in the case of State Schools, tax money) taking Intro to Football Theory 101, a class in which all the homework is done by "tutors." Leave college coursework for kids who can handle it, and let the dumbasses who can play, go play.

But then again I guess all NCAA schools do that to some extent. At least the ones that we watch on ESPN. I doubt that Middle Numbnuts State does.

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:20 pm

They ALL do id, they all do........

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:26 pm

Waco wrote:
Are those stats ranked games only? I don't really think a top-25 team beating an unranked team in any division is something worth crowing about.

That's overall ranked/unranked/forfeit.....since 1933, a more in depth look:

SEC records against other conferences

TEAM                          G     W     L     T    WIN%    PFPG    PAPG
ACC                         451   294   147    10    66.3    23.4    16.9
American Athletic            16    11     5     0    68.8    26.9    20.7
Big 10                      143    84    57     2    59.4    24.4    21.6
Big 12                      158    83    69     6    54.4    22.4    21.7
Big East                     54    25    29     0    46.3    26.4    26.6
Conference USA              154   130    24     0    84.4    31.6    16.0
Independents                934   625   288    21    68.0    24.1    15.5
MAC                         100    86    14     0    86.0    35.0    13.8
Mountain West                23    16     7     0    69.6    35.0    21.1
PAC 12                      114    69    40     5    62.7    23.9    19.3
Southwest                   355   197   141    17    57.9    17.1    13.5
Sun Belt                    133   126     7     0    94.7    41.5    13.6
WAC                          82    71    11     0    86.6    35.8    15.5

Waco · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:49 pm

tanker27 wrote:

Waco wrote:
Are those stats ranked games only? I don't really think a top-25 team beating an unranked team in any division is something worth crowing about.

That's overall ranked/unranked/forfeit.....since 1933, a more in depth look:

SEC records against other conferences

TEAM                          G     W     L     T    WIN%    PFPG    PAPG
ACC                         451   294   147    10    66.3    23.4    16.9
American Athletic            16    11     5     0    68.8    26.9    20.7
Big 10                      143    84    57     2    59.4    24.4    21.6
Big 12                      158    83    69     6    54.4    22.4    21.7
Big East                     54    25    29     0    46.3    26.4    26.6
Conference USA              154   130    24     0    84.4    31.6    16.0
Independents                934   625   288    21    68.0    24.1    15.5
MAC                         100    86    14     0    86.0    35.0    13.8
Mountain West                23    16     7     0    69.6    35.0    21.1
PAC 12                      114    69    40     5    62.7    23.9    19.3
Southwest                   355   197   141    17    57.9    17.1    13.5
Sun Belt                    133   126     7     0    94.7    41.5    13.6
WAC                          82    71    11     0    86.6    35.8    15.5

Let's go from 2000+:

Per year
W L T Win % PFPG PAPG
2015 4 3 0 57.1 21.9 24.3
2014 3 5 0 37.5 30.0 29.8
2013 7 4 0 63.6 29.4 26.1
2012 6 2 0 75.0 34.6 21.3
2011 5 2 0 71.4 29.0 19.6
2010 5 4 0 55.6 28.2 24.8
2009 5 4 0 55.6 25.7 26.0
2008 6 6 0 50.0 25.1 18.5
2007 6 3 0 66.7 28.3 19.3
2006 7 1 0 87.5 25.5 20.9
2005 4 2 0 66.7 22.5 12.2
2004 3 2 0 60.0 14.4 19.0
2003 4 5 0 44.4 22.6 22.1
2002 3 5 0 37.5 20.8 26.9
2001 5 1 0 83.3 32.7 18.7
2000 4 3 0 57.1 20.6 16.9

Not quite as convincing there IMO.

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:11 pm

/sigh

You can slice it however you want to (try) make the numbers look good in your favor (only 3 years in a decade below .500 that's way better than any other conference) but the overall numbers don't lie. SEC is the hardest conference in the nation.

Just think about it, Ignore the playoff or the BCS: you had 8 SEC teams in the top 25 in 2014, 5 as of right now this year, 7 in 2013, 5 in 2012, 9 in 2011, 6 in 2010, etc. etc. What other conference routinely puts more than three or four in the top 25? None. In fact if the SEC didnt eat its own self routinely I bet almost all teams would be ranked if they only played outside the SEC.

But I get it. You have to hate someone. Hell even I hate Alabama and Saban with a passion. I would much rather root for the other team regardless of who they are. LETS GO MICHIGAN STATE. (I doubt they will win but I will root for them!)

Waco · Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:35 pm

tanker27 wrote:
But I get it. You have to hate someone.

Oh I only hate the fans because they're obnoxious. I'm only rooting for the ACC because of Clemson, I don't really care about the various conferences. I'd love if we didn't even have them, but then we couldn't have a bajillion bowl games.

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:19 pm

Waco wrote:
Oh I only hate the fans because they're obnoxious.

Not all fans are obnoxious. But yes the most obnoxious ones seem to come from the SEC. :wink:

mattshwink · Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:54 pm

tanker27 wrote:
/sigh

You can slice it however you want to (try) make the numbers look good in your favor (only 3 years in a decade below .500 that's way better than any other conference) but the overall numbers don't lie. SEC is the hardest conference in the nation.

Just think about it, Ignore the playoff or the BCS: you had 8 SEC teams in the top 25 in 2014, 5 as of right now this year, 7 in 2013, 5 in 2012, 9 in 2011, 6 in 2010, etc. etc. What other conference routinely puts more than three or four in the top 25? None. In fact if the SEC didnt eat its own self routinely I bet almost all teams would be ranked if they only played outside the SEC.

But I get it. You have to hate someone. Hell even I hate Alabama and Saban with a passion. I would much rather root for the other team regardless of who they are. LETS GO MICHIGAN STATE. (I doubt they will win but I will root for them!)

But that's what you're doing. Slicing out how you want

Here's another way: The SEC has won the 3rd most championships. Big 10 has 10 more, and Ivy has almost double! When you take big swaths of time, that's hard to do in any sport, and in college football with realignments and changes in the game over it's history, it's better to break things into eras.

Past performance is not indicative of future results.

Bowl records might also be better, since those are neutral field contents. Last year the SEC had the 3rd best bowl record (Conf USA and PAC-12 were above them by winning percentage).

tanker27 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:00 pm

mattshwink wrote:
But that's what you're doing. Slicing out how you want Here's another way: The SEC has won the 3rd most championships. Big 10 has 10 more, and Ivy has almost double! When you take big swaths of time, that's hard to do in any sport, and in college football with realignments and changes in the game over it's history, it's better to break things into eras.

Apparently you did not read my previous posts. /sigh :-?

idchafee · Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:38 pm

AJ McCarron will attempt to become the first Alabama Crimson Tide QB to win an NFL game since Jeff Rutledge in 1987. (3 years before McCarron was born)

How can such a winning program not produce a decent NFL QB for almost a generation?

mattshwink · Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:08 pm

idchafee wrote:
AJ McCarron will attempt to become the first Alabama Crimson Tide QB to win an NFL game since Jeff Rutledge in 1987. (3 years before McCarron was born)

How can such a winning program not produce a decent NFL QB for almost a generation?

Running game and defense. Recent Alabama Squads do several things very well: Control the line of scrimmage on offense and defense, offensive rushing, opportunistic defense. They don't put up a lot of points against quality opponents (unlike say an Oregon or Baylor) but they stop their opponent and make the most of opportunities.

Look at the "quality" players (defined by Pro Bowl or Super Bowl appearance) players drafted recently: 3 defensive lineman, 1 WR, 1 OL, 2 RBs, 3 LBs.

And NFL quality quarterbacks are hard to find and build. Look at Brady, he wasn't much in college but his success in the pros is among the greats. Look at recent Super Bowl winning QBs (other than Brady): Flacco (Div I-AA) and Wilson (NC State and Wisconsin). How about Rodgers (Cal)? The two young guys that show promise, Luck (Stanford) and Newton (Auburn) are the only recent high draft picks to show something in the Pros are somewhat of anomaly, though it is too early to judge more recent draftees....

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