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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:03 pm

It was a good show by McLaren, both cars finishing and both in the points. Hmmm what's next, Honda getting better at making its engines??? For the sake of F1 lets hope so.
Good, Lewis actually followed a team order to give the place back after five laps, a welcome change there.
As for Max Verstappen apologising, hmmm, guess he knew the team would give him a bollocking for crashing into his team mate. Ricciardo wasn't impressed with that either, obviously.
Hopefully that was just an aberration and not a Kvyat again!
Second half of the season will be very interesting, well let's hope so.
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:30 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
It was a surreal weekend.
McLaren were "best of the rest" - faster than all but Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
Both Honda-powered cars finished in the points, including Vandoorne's first point of the season.
Lewis Hamilton honored a deal and yielded a position to his team-mate.
Max Verstappen accepted responsibility and apologized for crashing into someone on the first lap.
These aren't things that we're used to seeing in Formula One in the past few years.


Yes surreal is a great way to describe it. It definitely wasn't action packed by any stretch but it was all a bit bizarre. Mclaren clearly have a good car if they can do that well with a Honda. Just imagine if they can get a decent engine next season. Right now Alonso's talent is being wasted but Martin Brundle is adding some weird drugged up spin to that fact. :lol: Who would have thought one of the only passes in a race would be a Mclaren overtake?
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:30 pm

Belgian Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... rmation-24

102.6 / 102.9 / 104.2 / 104.1 / 104.8 / 105.6 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 316 kph
102.8 / 104.0 / 104.3 / 104.1 / 105.2 / 105.6 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 312 kph
103.1 / 103.2 / 104.8 / 105.2 / 105.2 / 106.4 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 318 kph
103.3 / 103.7 / 104.7 / 103.9 / 105.0 / 105.5 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 311 kph
103.4 / 103.9 / 104.5 / 105.0 / 105.2 / 106.3 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 307 kph
103.9/ 104.2 / 105.1 / 105.3 / 106.1 / 106.4 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 308 kph
105.0 / 105.0 / 105.3 / 106.1 / 106.4 / 108.0 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 304 kph
105.2 / 104.9 / 105.6 / 105.9 / 107.0 / 108.5 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 318 kph
105.4 / 105.0 / 105.3 / 106.2 / 106.5 / 107.7 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 318 kph (198 mph)
-DNF- / 104.7 / 105.4 / 105.5 / 106.7 / 107.9 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - 302 kph
------ / 105.1 / 105.7 / 106.1 / 106.7 / 108.3 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 311 kph
------ / 105.1 / 105.7 / 106.2 / 107.3 / 108.6 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 311 kph
------ / 105.4 / 105.5 / 106.7 / 107.6 / 108.6 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 312 kph
------ / 105.4 / 105.4 / 105.9 / 106.6 / 107.4 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 307 kph
------ / ------ / 106.9 / 106.6 / 107.9 / 108.5 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 305 kph
------ / ------ / 105.8 / 106.7 / ------ / -DNF- Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 307 kph - 5 spot penalty for not slowing at a yellow flag
------ / ------ / 108.3 / 109.2 / 109.2 / 110.2 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 302 kph - 5 spot penalty for new gearbox
------ / ------ / 108.3 / 109.7 / 109.7 / 111.3 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 303 kph - 5 spot penalty for new gearbox
------ / ------ / 106.0 / 107.9 / 107.5 / 107.9 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 304 kph - 20 spot penalty for new power unit
------ /- DNF- / 105.4 / 106.3/ 107.3 / 107.9 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 304 kph - 65 spot penalty for new power unit and gearbox
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:11 am

Spa this week and Monza next week are the two fastest tracks on the Formula One schedule. Shouldn't power be a significant advantage at these tracks?

The six-way battle for the mid-field is very close, but the three top teams (Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull) are more than a second per lap faster than Renault, Force India, McLaren, Haas, Toro Rosso and Williams, while Sauber is 3 seconds per lap slower.

I was impressed to see Vandoorne and Alonso cooperating together up the long straight in Q2. Will Buxton's story about why Fernando Alonso lost power during Q2 was surprising. It was a software programming error. Because Alonso, driving at the top of his game to try to get into Q1, took a corner flat out rather than lifting, the car's software did not acknowledge that he had been through the corner and did not allow energy to flow from the battery to the electric motors as he exited the corner onto the straight.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm

Results from Spa:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ication-24
1 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 106.6s, 323 kph
2 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 106.6s, 316 kph
3 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 107.5s, 321 kph
4 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 107.7s, 321 kph
5 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 107.7s, 323 kph
6 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 108.9s, 312 kph
7 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 109.1s, 318 kph :)
8 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 109.6s, 318 kph
9 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 109.7s, 321 kph
10 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 109.7s, 319 kph
11 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 110.5s, 309 kph
12 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 109.7s, 320 kph
13 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - 109.3s, 312 kph
14 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 109.9s, 312 kph
15 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 109.1s, 316 kph
16 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 110.8s, 308 kph
DNF Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 108.3s, 324 kph = 201½ mph
DNF Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda
DNF Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault
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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:51 pm

Drivers' standings after twelve of twenty races:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ifications

220 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - four wins
213 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - five wins
179 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - two wins. 1 DNF
132 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - one win, 3 DNFs
128 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - four podiums. 2 DNFs
67 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - one podium, 6 DNFs
56 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 2 DNF
47 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 5th
36 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 4 DNFs
34 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - best finish: 6th (three times), 3 DNFs
27 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 2 DNFs
24 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 3 DNFs
18 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - one podium, 4 DNFs
11 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 7th, 3 DNFs
10 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 6th, 8 DNFs
5 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 2 DNF
4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 9th (twice), 4 DNFs
1 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 10th, 4 DNFs
0 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - best finish: 11th (3x), 4 DNFs
0 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 11th (twice), 3 DNFs
0 Antonio Giovinazzi, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 12th, 1 DNF
0 Jenson Button, McLaren / Honda - 1 DNF
0 Paul Di Resta, Williams / Mercedes - 1 DNF


Constructors' standings after twelve of twenty races:
392 Mercedes - 6 wins, 1 DNF
348 Ferrari - 4 wins, 2 DNFs
199 Red Bull / Renault - 1 win, 9 DNFs
103 Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 2 DNF
45 Williams / Mercedes - 1 podium, 7 DNFs
40 Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 8 DNFs
35 Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 6 DNFs
34 Renault - best finish: 6th, 7 DNFs
11 McLaren / Honda - best finish: 6th, 13 DNFs
5 Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 6 DNFs
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:22 pm

Italian Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ormation-0

95.6 / 94.7 / 96.0 / ----- / 81.5 / 81.5 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 327 kph
97.0 / 97.0 / 97.7 /100.9/ 83.4 / 84.0 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 326 kph :)
97.7 / 97.6 / 98.8 / ----- / 83.0 / 83.4 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 326 kph :)
97.8 / 95.4 / 95.7 / ----- / 81.4 / 82.0 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 324 kph
98.0 / 97.0 / 98.2 / ----- / 81.8 / 82.7 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 312 kph
98.1 / 96.2 / 97.2 / ----- / 81.5 / 82.7 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 326 kph
98.3 / 97.5 / 98.3 /100.7/ 83.0 / 83.6 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 312 kph
----- / 98.2 / 99.2 /105.0/ 84.3 / 84.0 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 327 kph
----- / ----- /100.4/ ----- / 83.7 / 84.0 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 307 kph
----- / 97.6 / 98.5 / ----- / 83.4 / 83.3 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 321 kph - 5-spot penalty for new gearbox
----- / ----- /101.7/104.7/ 84.9 / 85.7 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 307 kph
----- / ----- /101.9/ ----- / 85.3 / 85.2 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 289 kph
96.7 / 96.1 / 97.3 / ----- / 82.4 / 82.7 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 318 kph - 20-spot penalty for new power unit
----- / 98.1 / 99.2 /101.5/ 83.3 / 84.5 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 312 kph - 10-spot penalty for new power unit
----- / 98.5 / 99.8 /101.5/ 83.2 / 83.7 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 308 kph - 10-spot penalty for new power unit
96.8 / 97.3 / 98.3 / ----- / 82.8 / 82.7 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 326 kph - 25-spot penalty for new power unit and gearbox
----- / ----- /100.6/104.4/ 83.3 / 85.2 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - 15-spot penalty for new power unit
99.2 / 97.5 / 98.8 / ----- / 82.9 / 83.5 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 313 kph - 25-spot penalty for new power unit
----- / 98.2 / 99.1 / ----- / 83.0 / 84.0 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 312 kph - 35-spot penalty for new power unit
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:35 pm

Results from Monza:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ormation-0
1 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 83.5s, 342 kph
2 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 83.7s, 348 kph
3 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 83.9s, 344 kph
4 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 83.4s, 355 kph
5 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 85.1s, 350 kph
6 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 85.7s, 345 kph :)
7 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 85.6s, 352 kph :)
8 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 85.5s, 357 kph
9 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 85.0s, 357 kph = 222 mph
10 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 84.4s, 353 kph
11 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 86.0s, 345 kph
12 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 85.9s, 353 kph
13 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 86.1s, 349 kph
14 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 86.2s, 350 kph
15 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 85.0s, 348 kph
16 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 86.5s, 346 kph
DNF Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 85.9s, 343 kph
DNF Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 87.7s, 338 kph
DNF Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda
DNF Jolyon Palmer, Renault
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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:05 am

http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one ... ment-italy
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We need to get more competitive and this weekend showed that we’re just not making any significant progress. How long can you wait before you’ve got upset drivers, upset partners and upset fans? Everyone is hanging in there with us but it can’t go on forever.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/divorce-card ... 0--f1.html
Eric Boullier wrote:
The talent of our drivers shone and we held on to hope that we would be able to achieve a positive result against the odds this afternoon. Once again, we were left dejected and dissatisfied.
McLaren-Honda have had more retirements this season than Mercedes, Ferrari, Force India and Red Bull, combined.


http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ifications
Drivers' standings after thirteen of twenty races:
228 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - six wins
235 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - four wins
197 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - two wins. 1 DNF
144 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - one win, 3 DNFs
138 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - four podiums. 2 DNFs
68 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - one podium, 6 DNFs
58 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 2 DNF
55 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 5th
36 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 4 DNFs
34 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - best finish: 6th (three times), 3 DNFs
31 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 2 DNFs
24 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - one podium, 4 DNFs
24 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 3 DNFs
11 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 7th, 3 DNFs
10 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 6th, 9 DNFs
5 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 2 DNF
4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 9th (twice), 4 DNFs
1 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 10th, 5 DNFs
0 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - best finish: 11th (3x), 4 DNFs
0 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 11th (twice), 4 DNFs
0 Antonio Giovinazzi, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 12th, 1 DNF
0 Jenson Button, McLaren / Honda - 1 DNF
0 Paul Di Resta, Williams / Mercedes - 1 DNF


Constructors' standings after thirteen of twenty races:
435 Mercedes - 6 wins, 1 DNF
373 Ferrari - 4 wins, 2 DNFs
212 Red Bull / Renault - 1 win, 9 DNFs
113 Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 2 DNF
55 Williams / Mercedes - 1 podium, 7 DNFs
40 Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 8 DNFs
35 Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 6 DNFs
34 Renault - best finish: 6th, 8 DNFs
11 McLaren / Honda - best finish: 6th, 15 DNFs
5 Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 7 DNFs
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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:37 am

Rumours are strong that McLaren are going to Renault engines and both drivers will stay with the team, expected to be announced in the next day or so.

Apparently the powers that be want to keep Honda in F1 so Toro Rosso may get Honda engines. I can't see why Honda would stay, their F1 engines have been low power and unreliable, the exact opposite of what they want to portray for the road cars.

Also strong chance that the grid penalties for power units will be done away with very soon after the farce that was the Monza grid. Maybe replaced by something like loss of Constructor's Championship points or fines to the teams (to then be passed on to the other teams) to stop them from bolting a new power unit in every session.
 
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Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:15 pm

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Rumours are strong that McLaren are going to Renault engines and both drivers will stay with the team, expected to be announced in the next day or so.

Apparently the powers that be want to keep Honda in F1 so Toro Rosso may get Honda engines. I can't see why Honda would stay, their F1 engines have been low power and unreliable, the exact opposite of what they want to portray for the road cars.

Also strong chance that the grid penalties for power units will be done away with very soon after the farce that was the Monza grid. Maybe replaced by something like loss of Constructor's Championship points or fines to the teams (to then be passed on to the other teams) to stop them from bolting a new power unit in every session.


Porsche is considering a return to F1 for the 2021 season. But really, how long before F1 will be passed by FE. Will engine(motor) make still matter then or are battery or energy storage manufacturers battling for the reign in auto sport. Silly thing is we/they will, partly, be driving on coal energy again.
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:41 am

Silly season has gotten rolling with a 3-way trade involving McLaren, Toro Rosso and Renault. McLaren will trade Honda engines and a pile of Honda sponsorship dollars to Toro Rosso for their Renault power, which will keep Alonso at McLaren. Renault will take Carlos Sainz from Toro Rosso to replace Jolyon Palmer, making room for Pierre Gasly to join Toro Rosso.
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Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:43 am

OK, who's the driver/engine/sponsor to be named later?
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:00 am

There are always rumors, of course. I don't believe that the rumor of Honda putting Nobuharu Matsushita into a seat at Toro Rosso is very credible. Nor do I believe the rumor that McLaren would make their own power plants.
http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2017/0 ... 2021-regs/

I find it interesting that Gene Haas has said that Ferrari hasn't offered him enough cash to put Charles Leclerc or Antonio Giovinazzi into a Haas car.
http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2017/0 ... ace-seats/
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:06 am

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Nor do I believe the rumor that McLaren would make their own power plants.

Why not? They've got a pedigree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZHMjdzw0w0

And yes, Can-Am is my default answer to anything in racing. It was the single shining moment when the pursuit of lunacy was not an option.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:29 am

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... orce-honda
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Why McLaren had to divorce Honda: Performance, Personnel, Prestige, Prizemoney, Philosophy


https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13178 ... l-to-honda
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Red Bull may be forced into a switch to Honda engines for 2019, with current partner Renault working to end its supply deal at the end of next year. If the Renault split is confirmed the news will be of considerable interest to Red Bull's drivers, with Daniel Ricciardo's contract expiring next season and Max Verstappen believed to have a performance-related clause to end his deal, which currently includes the 2019 season, early. The likelihood is they will now accelerate the process of looking for alternative seats, with opportunities currently available at both Mercedes and Ferrari beyond 2018. Longer-term, Red Bull remains linked to the potential arrival of Porsche in 2021, which could mean that its deal with Honda lasts for just two seasons.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:33 am

Porsche in F1 = Awesome Possum

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Re: Formula One 2017

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:44 pm

Power unit elements used (out of 4 allowed) through 13 of 20 races:
http://www.fia.com/file/61406/download?token=y6VMiIw3

N° Car Driver ICE TC MGU-H MGU-K ES CE
44 Mercedes Lewis Hamilton 4 4 4 3 2 2
77 Mercedes Valtteri Bottas 4 4 4 3 2 2
03 RBR TAG Heuer Daniel Ricciardo 5 5 6 3 2 2
33 RBR TAG Heuer Max Verstappen 5 5 5 2 3 3
05 Ferrari Sebastian Vettel 3 4 3 3 3 3
07 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 3 4 3 3 3 3
11 Force India Mercedes Sergio Perez 3 3 3 2 2 2
31 Force India Mercedes Esteban Ocon 3 3 3 2 3 2
19 Williams Mercedes Felipe Massa 3 3 3 2 2 2
18 Williams Mercedes Lance Stroll 3 3 3 2 2 2
14 McLaren Honda Fernando Alonso 7 9 9 7 6 5
02 McLaren Honda Stoffel Vandoorne 7 10 10 7 6 6
26 Toro Rosso Daniil Kvyat 5 5 5 2 4 4
55 Toro Rosso Carlos Sainz 3 3 5 3 2 3
08 Haas Ferrari Romain Grosjean 4 4 4 3 3 3
20 Haas Ferrari Kevin Magnussen 4 4 3 3 3 3
27 Renault Nico Hülkenberg 3 4 5 3 3 3
30 Renault Jolyon Palmer 4 5 5 2 3 3
09 Sauber Ferrari Marcus Ericsson 4 4 4 3 3 3
94 Sauber Ferrari Pascal Wehrlein 4 4 4 3 3 3

TurboCharger and Motor/Generator Unit-Heat (the electric motor/generator connected to the turbocharger) used out of 4 allowed per car:
Mercedes: 3.33 units per car
Ferrari: 3.75 units per car
Renault: 4.83 units per car
Honda: 9.50 units per car
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Re: Formula One 2017

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:53 pm

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Re: Formula One 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:21 am

Well it's taken 10 days but confirmation McLaren and Torro Rosso swap engine suppliers. Thrown in to the mix is Sainz to Renault and Red Bull being given notice that Renault will withdraw their engine supply after next year (likely pushing them to Honda).

That could really put the cat among the pigeons in the driver market for next year if Ricciardo and Verstappen see useless engines coming their way. There are a lot of drivers on 1 year contracts at the moment, not that a contract in Formula 1 means anything more than how much money you have to pay to make it go away :roll:

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Forgot to mention, Kubica was under contract to Renault for those tests he did. Last one looked decent speed but signs of fatigue. He asked to be released from the contract, either he is giving up or he now knows how much more he needs to train and a possibility of going to Williams to let Massa retire. Williams need an older driver with their Martini sponsorship and an experienced driver to help Stroll with setup.
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:37 pm

Singapore Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ormation-1
99.49 / 100.5 / 103.3 / 101.9 / 103.1 / 102.6 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 308 kph
99.81 / 100.3 / 102.0 / 101.8 / 101.4 / 102.6 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 302 kph
99.84 / 100.4 / 102.1 / 102.5 / 100.9 / 102.5 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 303 kph
100.1 / 100.5 / 103.3 / 102.7 / 102.8 / 103.7 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 306 kph
100.1 / 100.6 / 102.5 / 102.0 / 101.6 / 102.9 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 308 kph
100.8 / 101.4 / 103.1 / 102.6 / 102.1 / 103.4 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 307 kph
101.0 / 101.3 / 102.6 / 102.5 / 102.4 / 103.7 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 296 kph
101.2 / 101.4 / 102.1 / 102.4 / 102.8 / 103.8 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 301 kph
101.4 / 101.2 / 102.2 / 102.4 / 102.5 / 104.3 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 301 kph
102.2 / 101.8 / 102.1 / 103.4 / 103.2 / ------- Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 303 kph
------- / 102.1 / 102.5 / 103.4 / 103.8 / 105.0 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - ?
------- / 102.2 / 103.6 / 103.0 / 102.8 / 103.4 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 307 kph
------- / 102.3 / 102.5 / 103.6 / 103.6 / 104.2 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 302 kph
------- / 102.8 / 103.6 / 103.1 / 103.1 / 105.1 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 308 kph
------- / 103.9 / 103.6 / 104.3 / 104.9 / 106.5 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 304 kph
------- / ------- / 103.8 / 104.0 / 104.4 / ------- Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 303 kph
------- / ------- / 104.0 / 103.7 / 103.8 / 105.1 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 306 kph
------- / ------- / 104.7 / 104.2 / 104.3 / 107.2 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 307 kph
------- / ------- / 105.1 / 105.8 / 105.7/ 107.9 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 298 kph
------- / ------- / 105.6 / 106.3 / 105.7 / 107.7 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 297 kph - 5-spot penalty for new gearbox
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Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:44 pm

Results from Singapore:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ication-33
1 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 105.0s, 290 kph
2 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 105.3s, 291 kph
3 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 105.4s, 296 kph
4 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 106.5s, 287 kph - best finish of his F1 career
5 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 106.7s, 303 kph
6 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - 106.7s, ? - best finish of his F1 career on the weekend Renault announced his replacement for 2018
7 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 106.7s, 290 kph - best finish of his F1 career
8 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 107.5s, 296 kph
9 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 107.6s, 304 kph
10 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 107.7s, 306 kph
11 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 107.1s, 305 kph
12 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 109.1s, 282 kph
DNF Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari
DNF Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
DNF Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - crashed
DNF Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - crashed
DNF Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - wrecked by Verstappen
DNF Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - crashed with Verstappen at start
DNF Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - crashed with Raikkonen, Vettel and Alonso at start
DNF Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - crashed with Verstappen at start
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:57 pm

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ifications
Drivers' standings after fourteen of twenty races:
263 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - seven wins
235 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - four wins, 1 DNF
212 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - two wins. 1 DNF
162 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - one win, 3 DNFs
138 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - four podiums. 3 DNFs
68 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - one podium, 7 DNFs
68 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 2 DNF
56 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 5th
48 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 4th, 4 DNFs
34 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - best finish: 6th (three times), 4 DNFs
31 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 2 DNFs
28 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - one podium, 4 DNFs
26 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 3 DNFs
11 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 7th, 4 DNFs
10 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 6th, 10 DNFs
8 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - best finish: 6th, 4 DNFs
7 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 7th, 5 DNFs
5 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 2 DNF
4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 9th (twice), 5 DNFs
0 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 11th (twice), 5 DNFs
0 Antonio Giovinazzi, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 12th, 1 DNF
0 Jenson Button, McLaren / Honda - 1 DNF
0 Paul Di Resta, Williams / Mercedes - 1 DNF


Constructors' standings after fourteen of twenty races:
475 Mercedes - 7 wins, 1 DNF
373 Ferrari - 4 wins, 4 DNFs
230 Red Bull / Renault - 1 win, 10 DNFs
124 Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 2 DNF
59 Williams / Mercedes - 1 podium, 7 DNFs
52 Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 9 DNFs
42 Renault - best finish: 6th, 9 DNFs
37 Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 7 DNFs
17 McLaren / Honda - best finish: 6th, 16 DNFs
5 Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 9 DNFs
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm

If only the first turn crashes would take out Hamilton.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:49 pm

Captain Ned wrote:
If only the first turn crashes would take out Hamilton.


If that did happen, it would have been a crash that knocked out every WDC on the grid!

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