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travbrad wrote:With Verstappen starting directly behind him on the grid, that's always a possibility.It's pretty much going to take a Hamilton DNF now...
Captain Ned wrote:I shudder to think what Max Verstappen could do with a Mercedes. Drive of the season so far.
Topinio wrote:Captain Ned wrote:I shudder to think what Max Verstappen could do with a Mercedes. Drive of the season so far.
Just lost concentration though. All 4 wheels off the track, 5 s penalty and back 1 place.
Topinio wrote:Captain Ned wrote:I shudder to think what Max Verstappen could do with a Mercedes. Drive of the season so far.
Just lost concentration though. All 4 wheels off the track, 5 s penalty and back 1 place.
Edit: looks clear on the stills. The crappy way they managed the situation though, to let him go to the pre-podium room and throw him out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQoinjfCDOg ... I think he knew, though, it's theatre for the media/fans (he's not even wearing the podium hat).
Seems that Jos Verstappen, Horner, Webber ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2z8abO5WpQ ) etc. all think that it's a bad decision for some reason.
EndlessWaves wrote:Topinio wrote:Captain Ned wrote:I shudder to think what Max Verstappen could do with a Mercedes. Drive of the season so far.
Just lost concentration though. All 4 wheels off the track, 5 s penalty and back 1 place.
Yet despite half a dozen other people doing so none of them got a penalty. Did any of them gain enough time to come out ahead at a pitstop or an otherwise similar advantage?
It does feel like a decision made in haste just because of the podium ceremony, rather than them having looked at all of the facts.
End User wrote:Verstappen's penalty for overtaking Raikkonen with all four wheels off the track was: Fair
https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/10/23/354437/
D@ Br@b($)! wrote:End User wrote:Verstappen's penalty for overtaking Raikkonen with all four wheels off the track was: Fair
https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/10/23/354437/
Fair according to 70% of 579(2017-10-23) voters on f1fanatic, the rules, Räikkönen, Hamilton, ea. : Yes
Fair according to 99,999% of the people on the official FIA social media
https://twitter.com/fia/status/922210353123119106
https://twitter.com/fia/status/922353577934323713
https://twitter.com/fia/status/922357281718702081
Niki Lauda, "I fully disagree, this is completely wrong this decision, because racing drives should be able to race. He did nothing wrong." "We destroy the sport like this, with this decision"
Nico Rosberg, https://twitter.com/nico_rosberg/status ... 7773573120
Alex Wurz, https://twitter.com/alex_wurz/status/922202170367336448
Johnny Herbert, https://twitter.com/johnnyherbertf1/sta ... 2630845440
Mario Andretti, https://twitter.com/MarioAndretti/statu ... 5566464000
Arie Luyendyk, https://twitter.com/ArieLuyendyk/status ... 9088542720
And on and on... : No
Ferrari International Assistance didn't rule in favour of F1.
As for the drivers, I think they are hypocrites if they condemn this action, that's why I only linked former F1/Indy drivers.
Lewis exceeded the track on his pole lap. But of course, Lewis has a unique skill to get the rulebook rewritten. Remember when he failed to overtake Max at Suzuka and the rules were rewritten to ban defending a corner? Which was cancelled a few races later because it was rash and hasty.
"If you no longer go for a gap that exists you are no longer a racing driver"
I f*****g hate track limits, either enforce everywhere, or don’t enforce anywhere. That’s why I like old school American tracks