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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:46 am

Drivers' standings after seven races:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ifications

141 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - three wins
129 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - three wins
93 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - one win. 1 DNF
73 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - two podiums. 1 DNF
67 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - three podiums, 2 DNFs
45 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - one podium, 3 DNFs
44 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th
27 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 5th
25 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 2 DNF
20 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 1 DNF
18 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - best finish: 6th, 1 DNF
10 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 8th (twice), 2 DNFs
5 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 2 DNFs
4 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 1 DNF
4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 9th (twice), 3 DNFs
2 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 9th, 4 DNFs
0 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - best finish: 11th (twice), 2 DNFs
0 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 11th, 3 DNFs
0 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 12th, 5 DNFs
0 Antonio Giovinazzi, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 12th, 1 DNF
0 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 13th, 4 DNFs
0 Jenson Button, McLaren / Honda - 1 DNF



Constructors' standings after seven races:
222 Mercedes - 4 wins, 1 DNF
214 Ferrari - 3 wins, 1 DNF
112 Red Bull / Renault - 4 podiums, 5 DNFs
71 Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th
29 Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 5 DNFs
22 Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 5 DNFs
18 Renault - best finish: 6th, 3 DNFs
15 Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 8th (x3), 4 DNFs
4 Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 5 DNFs
0 McLaren / Honda - best finish: 12th, 10 DNFs
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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:36 am

With the change in tone of Eric Boullier and Zak Brown with respect to Honda, rumours are strong on McLaren going to Mercedes engines next year and leaving Honda to sort themselves out running in the back of Sauber.

Lewis Hamilton was pretty choked up when he was given that helmet. Apparently although the announcer said it was an original, what they handed him there was a replica (Hamilton actually commented later "It's a freshie"). They are shipping the original direct to Hamilton's house because it's worth too much to have it kicking around at a circuit.
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:55 am

Azerbaijan Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... rmation-30
100.6 / 101.3 / 102.0 / 103.2 / 104.5 / 105.5 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 327 kph
101.0 / 101.5 / 103.0 / 102.7 / 103.5 / 105.7 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 328 kph
101.7 / 102.0 / 102.7 / 102.8 / 103.5 / 106.0 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 322 kph
101.8 / 101.9 / 103.0 / 104.3 / 103.6 / 105.0 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 323 kph
101.9 / 102.0 / 102.5 / 103.6 / 103.4 / 104.4 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 323 kph
102.1 / 102.5 / 103.2 / 104.1 / 104.3 / 105.4 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 324 kph
102.2 / 102.8 / 103.1 / 103.3 / 104.5 / 105.8 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 330 kph
102.8 / 102.3 / 103.6 / 104.0 / 104.1 / 106.6 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 326 kph
102.8 / 102.7 / 103.2 / 103.7 / 104.6 / 106.0 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 325 kph
103.4 / 102.2 / 102.9 / 103.3 / 103.5 / 104.9 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 329 kph
------ / 103.2 / 102.9 / 103.9 / 104.3 / 106.6 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 327 kph
------ / 103.8 / 104.0 / 104.9 / 105.8 / 106.7 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 330 kph
------ / 104.3 / 103.9 / 104.3 / 106.0 / 107.2 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 320 kph
------ / 104.6 / 104.3 / 105.7 / 107.2 / 109.0 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 320 kph
------ / 103.3 / 103.5 / 104.4 / 105.7 / 107.5 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 320 kph - 3-spot penalty for crashing into Grosjean in Montreal
------ / ------ / 104.5 / 105.5 / 107.7 / 106.8 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 322 kph
------ / ------ / 104.8 / 105.6 / 107.3 / 109.9 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 330 kph
------ / ------ / 105.0 / 105.1 / 106.2 / 107.4 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 316 kph - 35-spot penalty for new engine & gearbox
------ / ------ / 104.3 / 104.7 / 105.5 / 107.6 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 315 kph - 40-spot penalty for new engine
------ / ------ / ------ / 113.0 / 106.1 / 108.5 Jolyon Palmer, Renault
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:00 pm

Fernando, IndyCar will welcome you with open arms. You got a taste of that in May. Sure beats trying to drive that dog around a track. Bruce must be rolling in his grave.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:11 pm

Results from Baku:
1 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault 104.9s, 336 kph :D
2 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes 103.9s, 336 kph
3 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes 105.1s, 329 kph :)
4 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari 103.4s, 330 kph
5 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes 103.5s, 333 kph
6 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes 105.6s, 336 kph
7 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari 106.3s, 330 kph
8 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault 105.9s, 330 kph
9 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda 105.2s, 333 kph
10 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari 107.1s, 321 kph
11 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari 107.2s, 324 kph
12 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda 106.6s, 323 kph
13 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari 106.8s, 332 kph
DNF Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari 105.5s, 334 kph
DNF Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes 105.6s, 331 kph
DNF Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes
DNF Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
DNF Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault
DNF Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault
DNF Jolyon Palmer, Renault
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:13 pm

If I am not mistaken, this is Fernando's first points finish this year, such as it is.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:19 pm

In the 8th race of the F1 season, Fernando Alonso scored the first points that McLaren-Honda have earned all year. This was also the first race that both McLaren-Honda cars were running at the finish. The team racked up 10 DNFs for two cars in the first seven races.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:20 pm

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------ / ------ / 105.0 / 105.1 / 106.2 / 107.4 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 316 kph - 35-spot penalty for new engine & gearbox
------ / ------ / 104.3 / 104.7 / 105.5 / 107.6 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 315 kph - 40-spot penalty for new engine

How do you calculate that? So they need to lap people a few times to be back in the top 20? :x

Stroll on podium! First real driver since JV. The whole of Canada will be talking WDC soon lol. :lol:
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:29 pm

Consider that Valtteri Bottas started on the front row, then bounced off the inside curb and crashed into Kimi Raikkonen on the first lap and found himself in last place, a lap down, after he pitted to replace the damaged nose of his Mercedes. The safety car periods helped him get his lap back as he stormed back up through the field. Lewis Hamilton was annoyed that Bottas wasn't slowing down to block Vettel for him instead of cutting a second a lap off of Lance Stroll's time to take second place away from the young Canadian just as they crossed the finish line.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:25 pm

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Lewis Hamilton was annoyed that Bottas wasn't slowing down to block Vettel for him instead of cutting a second a lap off of Lance Stroll's time to take second place away from the young Canadian just as they crossed the finish line.

Crybaby much? :P
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:45 pm

No mention of Vettel's red mist incident? :)
At first glance, it did look like a brake check, until they showed a replay of Hamilton's onboard which showed him gradually and cleanly slowing down even from before corner entry.

More than the penalty, Vettel's probably learning a better lesson from his lost podium/victory - if he hadn't reacted the way he did, he'd have been the race winner (he might have got a 5s or 10s penalty just for running into Hamilton). Instead, he lucked out with Hamilton behind him due to a freak issue with Hamilton's headrest.

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------ / ------ / 105.0 / 105.1 / 106.2 / 107.4 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 316 kph - 35-spot penalty for new engine & gearbox
------ / ------ / 104.3 / 104.7 / 105.5 / 107.6 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 315 kph - 40-spot penalty for new engine

How do you calculate that? So they need to lap people a few times to be back in the top 20?

Until 2015, the rules were that once your car reached the last spot on the grid, the remaining grid drops were converted to an in-race timed penalty. However, even back then, the woeful Honda engines meant that after starting at the back of the grid with an underpowered car, the McLaren team then had to hit the pitlane to serve out the time penalty, to the point it got embarrassing. So in 2015 (around the Canadian GP, I think) they withdrew that rule.

Now, once the grid drops take you to the back of the field, any further grid drop penalties are just discarded - so if they qualify 15th and have a 40-place grid drop, they drop 5 places to 20th (last), and the remaining 35 are ignored. So, anytime someone is hit with a 15-spot penalty for a new component, there's probably a good case to be made for changing out more components because the added penalty doesn't actually hurt much (though Vettel might beg to differ once he comes upon his inevitable engine penalties later this season).

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Lewis Hamilton was annoyed that Bottas wasn't slowing down to block Vettel for him instead of cutting a second a lap off of Lance Stroll's time to take second place away from the young Canadian just as they crossed the finish line.

I did find it very interesting the way Hamilton asked his race engineer Bono for Bottas's help in pincering Vettel. That said, the team's response was clear, and it did pay off with a last-gasp overtake. Good of FOM to have broadcast that snippet.
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:54 am

Hamilton did brake-check in front of Vettel. That was Hamilton playing to the limit of the rules to get any advantage that he could. If Mr. Vettel is one of the most skilled racing drivers in the world, he should be skilled enough to avoid a collision even when his competitor pulls a stunt like that.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:18 am

Drivers' standings after eight races:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ifications
153 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - three wins
139 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - three wins
111 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - one win. 1 DNF
92 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - one win, 2 DNFs
73 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - two podiums. 2 DNFs
45 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - one podium, 4 DNFs
44 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 1 DNF
35 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 5th
29 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 2 DNFs
20 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 2 DNFs
18 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - best finish: 6th, 2 DNFs
17 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - one podium, 4 DNFs
11 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 7th, 2 DNFs
10 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 8th (twice), 2 DNFs
5 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 1 DNF
4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 9th (twice), 4 DNFs
2 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 9th, 5 DNFs
0 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - best finish: 11th (twice), 3 DNFs
0 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 11th (twice), 3 DNFs
0 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 12th, 4 DNFs
0 Antonio Giovinazzi, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 12th, 1 DNF
0 Jenson Button, McLaren / Honda - 1 DNF


Constructors' standings after eight races:
250 Mercedes - 4 wins, 1 DNF
226 Ferrari - 3 wins, 2 DNFs
137 Red Bull / Renault - 1 win, 6 DNFs
79 Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 1 DNF
37 Williams / Mercedes - 1 podium, 6 DNFs
33 Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 6 DNFs
21 Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 7th, 4 DNFs
18 Renault - best finish: 6th, 5 DNFs
5 Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 5 DNFs
2 McLaren / Honda - best finish: 9th, 10 DNFs
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:22 am

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Hamilton did brake-check in front of Vettel. That was Hamilton playing to the limit of the rules to get any advantage that he could. If Mr. Vettel is one of the most skilled racing drivers in the world, he should be skilled enough to avoid a collision even when his competitor pulls a stunt like that.


No, he didn't. Vettel was simply too close and anticipated Lewis accelerating out of the corner as he had done at the end of the previous safety car. However Lewis had got dangerously close to overtaking the safety car before the line last time, so was leaving more of a gap this time around. Still, Vettel should know better than to be caught out like that, never mind the petulant ramming afterwards. I'm amazed he got away with such a light penalty.

Strangely the incident has echoes of a similar Vettel mistake 10 years ago, though on that occasion Lewis was probably somewhat more culpable.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:19 am

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Lewis Hamilton was pretty choked up when he was given that helmet. Apparently although the announcer said it was an original, what they handed him there was a replica (Hamilton actually commented later "It's a freshie"). They are shipping the original direct to Hamilton's house because it's worth too much to have it kicking around at a circuit.


Ah, ok. I was like, WTF is he doing, when he just placed the helmet on the roof of the car, even unguarded for a moment.
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:30 am

Anyone any thoughts on when Red Bull are gonna get their act together. I don't think I can take more DNF's from Verstappen. It is starting to feel like sabotage...
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:20 am

Red Bull will probably get it together once Renault gets their sh@t together and gives them a more powerful and reliable engine.
As can be seen the problem aint their drivers or the aero package so Renault is all that's left.
At least this year Renault seem to be getting their act together at long last.
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Re: Formula One 2017

Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:43 am

My favorite is lewis hamilton...
 
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Re: Formula One 2017

Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:57 am

Vettel gets away with apologising again:
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/07/ ... -hamilton/

Ricciardo and Verstappen have some fun with Aston Martins and caravans to advertise the Austrian Grand Prix:
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Re: Formula One 2017

Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:28 pm

Austrian Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... nformation
64.3 / 64.3 / 64.8 / 65.5 / 65.7 / 66.3 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 327 kph
64.3 / 64.8 / 65.6 / 65.1 / 65.6 / 66.4 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 326 kph
64.8 / 65.0 / 65.1 / 65.6 / 66.1 / 66.8 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 323 kph
64.9 / 65.2 / 65.9 / 65.9 / 65.9 / 66.6 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 323 kph
65.0 / 64.9 / 65.8 / 65.8 / 65.8 / 66.2 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 322 kph
65.5 / 65.3 / 65.9 / 66.0 / 66.8 / 68.1 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 322 kph
65.6 / 65.4 / 66.0 / 66.9 / 67.5 / ----- Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 325 kph
64.4 / 64.8 / 65.1 / 65.4 / 65.5 / 66.0 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 328 kph - 5-spot penalty for gearbox
65.7 / 65.6 / 66.0 / 66.4 / 66.8 / 67.5 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 328 kph
65.7 / 65.5 / 65.7 / 66.3 / 67.1 / 67.6 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - 321 kph
----- / 65.6 / 66.2 / 66.6 / 66.7 / ----- Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 324 kph
----- / 65.6 / 66.2 / 66.6 / 66.7 / 67.5 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - 316 kph
----- / 65.7 / 66.3 / 66.6 / 66.9 / 67.3 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 315 kph
----- / 65.9 / 66.0 / 66.3 / 66.9 / 67.4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 327 kph
----- / DNF / 66.1 / 65.9 / 66.6 / 67.6 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 322 kph
----- / ----- / 66.3 / 66.6 / 67.6 / 67.6 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - 322 kph
----- / ----- / 66.5 / 66.9 / 67.1 / 67.6 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 327 kph
----- / ----- / 66.6 / 66.8 / 67.5 / 65.0 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 325 kph
----- / ----- / 66.9 / 67.4 / 68.9 / 70.9 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 318 kph
----- / ----- / 67.0 / 67.5 / 68.8 / 69.3 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 317 kph - must start from pit lane
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:15 am

Results from Spielberg:
1 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 67.8s, 323 kph
2 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 67.5s, 326 kph
3 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 67.4s, 311 kph
4 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 67.4s, 329 kph
5 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 67.5s, 315 kph
6 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 68.6s, 310 kph :)
7 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 68.5s, 315 kph
8 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 68.7s, 322 kph
9 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - 68.4s, 323 kph
10 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 68.8s, 321 kph
11 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - 68.7s, 317 kph
12 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - 68.4s, 314 kph
13 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 69.0s, 313 kph
14 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - 69.2s, 302 kph
15 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 69.3s, 316 kph
16 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - 68.1s, 311 kph
DNF Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault
DNF Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari
DNF Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda
DNF Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault
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Re: Formula One 2017

Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:14 am

Drivers' standings after nine races:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... ifications

171 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - three wins
151 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - three wins
136 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - two wins. 1 DNF
107 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - one win, 2 DNFs
83 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - two podiums. 2 DNFs
50 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 1 DNF
45 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - one podium, 5 DNFs
39 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 5th
29 Carlos Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 3 DNFs
22 Felipe Massa, Williams / Mercedes - best finish: 6th (twice), 2 DNFs
18 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - one podium, 4 DNFs
18 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - best finish: 6th, 2 DNFs
18 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 2 DNFs
11 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 7th, 3 DNFs
5 Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 1 DNF
4 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 9th (twice), 4 DNFs
2 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 9th, 6 DNFs
0 Jolyon Palmer, Renault - best finish: 11th (3x), 3 DNFs
0 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 11th (twice), 3 DNFs
0 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Honda - best finish: 12th (twice), 4 DNFs
0 Antonio Giovinazzi, Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 12th, 1 DNF
0 Jenson Button, McLaren / Honda - 1 DNF


Constructors' standings after nine races:
287 Mercedes - 5 wins, 1 DNF
254 Ferrari - 3 wins, 2 DNFs
152 Red Bull / Renault - 1 win, 7 DNFs
89 Force India / Mercedes - best finish: 4th, 1 DNF
40 Williams / Mercedes - 1 podium, 6 DNFs
33 Toro Rosso / Renault - best finish: 6th, 7 DNFs
29 Haas / Ferrari - best finish: 6th, 5 DNFs
18 Renault - best finish: 6th, 5 DNFs
5 Sauber / Ferrari - best finish: 8th, 5 DNFs
2 McLaren / Honda - best finish: 9th, 11 DNFs
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:54 am

Good to see Bottas win and gain on the title fight.

I'd love to see Kimi win a race and stick it to Vettel.

I'd put money on Kubica replacing Palmer next year at Renault.
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:40 am

Good to see Bottas win, shame he refused the shoey :lol:
Will be interesting to see this race to see if Honda has improved with its new updates, Alonso crashing out made it difficult to know if the McLaren would've gone the distance and/or gone faster.
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:51 am

The F1 London event looked like good fun. Shame Lewis was a no show.

I'm also thinking that Kubica replacing Palmer next year is likely. The first "test" was more meant to be a be nice to him and let him have a drive in an F1 car, but he was instantly quick and ended up setting a faster time than Sirotkin had previously. This caused them to give him the proper test at Paul Ricard. Haven't heard any timings yet...
 
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:12 am

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The F1 London event looked like good fun. Shame Lewis was a no show.

It is absolutely appalling that Lewis did not bother to attend. It's his home event for goodness sake! A slap in the face to his fans and not worthy of a former champion.
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:13 am

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shame he refused the shoey

Good for him. Deferring to Ricciardo's shoe is embarrassing for anyone who does it.
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:11 pm

The shoey is a bit of fun and Brundle is selling the one he did for charity. It's getting a bit overdone though.
 
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:14 pm

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The shoey is a bit of fun

Pure mind games on behalf of Ricciardo.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:00 am

Hey End User, whilst I agree with notfred it is a bit of fun, but as he said its a joke which has gone on a bit long.
That being said being a native of the same state that he comes from, he doesn't play mind games off track, that isn't in his make up.
Now if the shoey was done before the races I'd agree with you that mind games were afoot (groan).
West Aussies work hard and when we're not working, relax with laughs even at our own expense. The shoey is just a means to show the human side of the racers when not racing, have a laugh and even give the audience a laugh for those who bravely give the shoey a go, and show the screwed up look when they taste champagne combined with hot smelly shoe :lol:
Even though Bottas refused it he was smiling, so everyone could see he knew it was purely for laughs, no mind games there.
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