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Re: Formula One 2018

Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:02 am

I loved Max's comments about how the journalists should go ask Seb if he was going to change his approach to races.
 
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Re: Formula One 2018

Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:59 am

Journalists have no appreciation for sarcasm when thay’re on the receiving end.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... h-1047453/
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Re: Formula One 2018

Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:14 pm

Folks seem to be piling on McLaren lately:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... 52485/?s=1
John Barnard wrote:
You have to change the thinking. I don’t know how long that will take, or whether the team can survive that kind of a fundamental turnaround. Considering that when we joined McLaren in 1980 the problems I had then trying to change the way things were done, we’re talking about a fairly small operation then. If you take those problems to today with the numbers of people there, I wouldn’t relish that job. It’s like turning an oil tanker.


http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/239 ... -was-honda
Kate Walker wrote:
The Woking racers have painted egg on their own faces by failing to manage expectations. Had McLaren not spent the Honda years talking up their Red Bull-beating chassis (yeah right...) we might have forgiven them for having a bad weekend or six with their new engine partners. But when all the fingers of blame are pointed outside and yet the problems are internal? It's not a good look, and not one that begets any sympathy at all.


Meanwhile, the relationship with some of the press couldn't be worse:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... ottom.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... rence.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... -work.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... -team.html
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Re: Formula One 2018

Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:39 pm

Am I the only one that cheers for Alonso when he lashes out at the media? :lol:
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/239 ... suggesting
Fernando Alonso wrote:
A weekend like that, the only problem is the media attention it attracts and the lack of normal conversation goes into the bad news or good news, and everything is exaggerated, especially in Formula One with all the polemics and all the things you need to sell every week. We had a quite poor weekend in terms of performance, uncompetitive on Friday, uncompetitive on Saturday, uncompetitive on Sunday. We are the first ones to know that, and we want to improve that. At the same time, we are not last. We are not getting worse and worse. We are not the worst team in the paddock. We are not these things that we've been hearing for the last three days. We are fifth in the constructors' championship, I'm eighth in the drivers' championship. All the other ones that are doing a perfect season, they are behind us, so maybe they are not so perfect and we are not so bad. We understand we have been uncompetitive, and we are the first ones that we want to improve that.

We had zero points last season, and now we have fifth in the constructors' championship and eighth in the drivers' championship. So again, the situation changed a lot and improved a lot. We are not where we want to be, and we want to improve. We want to fight for podiums, we want to fight for championships. We were thinking this year could be that transition to be close to the podiums and close to the Red Bull performance, and we are not. We realise that, and we accept that we need to improve. If this was the season to improve, yes, it was, and we did improve massively.1900 percent more points than last year, so we are doing what we can.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:14 am

Austrian Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ormation-7
63.1 / 63.8 / 64.2 / 64.2 / 64.8 / 65.0 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 322 kph
63.1 / 63.6 / 64.1 / 64.1 / 64.6 / 64.8 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 322 kph
63.7 / 64.0 / 64.2 / 64.5 / 65.3 / 65.8 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 321 kph
63.8 / 64.0 / 64.3 / 64.8 / 65.1 / 65.1 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 317 kph
63.9 / 64.1 / 64.2 / 64.9 / 65.4 / 66.0 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 321 kph :D
63.5 / 63.5 / 64.3 / 64.1 / 64.8 / 65.2 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 323 kph (200.8 mph) - 3-spot penalty for impeding Sainz in qualifying
64.0 / 64.4 / 64.7 / 64.9 / 65.0 / 65.5 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 316 kph
64.1 / 64.3 / 64.5 / 65.0 / 65.6 / 66.4 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 320 kph
64.7 / 64.6 / 64.9 / 65.1 / 66.0 / 66.4 Carlos Sainz Jr., Renault - 316 kph
65.0 / 64.7 / 64.9 / 65.2 / 66.3 / 66.5 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 319 kph
------ / 64.8 / 65.1 / 65.4 / 66.1 / 66.1 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 322 kph
------ / 64.9 / 65.0 / 65.3 / 65.8 / 66.4 Pierre Gasly, Toro Rosso / Honda - 319 kph
------ / 65.2 / 65.3 / 66.0 / 66.6 / 66.6 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - 320 kph
------ / ----- / 65.3 / 65.8 / 65.9 / 66.7 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Renault - 315 kph
------ / ----- / 65.3 / 65.5 / 66.4 / 66.5 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 320 kph :(
------ / ----- / 65.3 / 66.3 / 66.3 / ----- Sergey Sirotkin, Williams / Mercedes - 320 kph
------ / 65.0 / 65.0 / 65.2 / 66.1 / 66.2 Charles LeClerc, Sauber / Ferrari - 319 kph - 5-spot penalty for new gearbox
------ / ----- / 65.5 / 65.7 / 66.2 / 66.4 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 317 kph
------ / ----- / 65.4 / 65.7 / 66.3 / 66.9 Brendon Hartley, Toro Rosso / Honda - 318 kph - Sent to the back of the grid for new power unit
------ / 65.1 / 65.0 / 65.4 / 66.4 / 66.6 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Renault - 316 kph - Pit lane start for new wing and hybrid motor/generator
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:06 am

Results from Spielberg:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... fication-7

1 Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault - 67.4s, 302 kph
2 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari - 67.0s, 328 kph (203.6 mph)
3 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari - 67.1s, 320 kph
4 Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari - 69.1s, 309 kph - best Haas finish ever. Earned his first points of 2018 :D
5 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari - 68.5s, 317 kph :)
6 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes - 68.9s, 316 kph
7 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes - 68.5s, 318 kph
8 Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault - 68.7s, 314 kph :)
9 Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari - 69.0s, 325 kph :)
10 Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari - 68.2s, 318 kph :) - Double points finish for Sauber
11 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda - 69.3s, 324 kph
12 Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault - 68.8s, 315 kph
13 Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes - 69.2s, 315 kph - 2 laps down
14 Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes - 68.9s, 315 kph - 2 laps down
DNF Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault - 68.9s, 308 kph
DNF Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 67.2s, 324 kph
DNF Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda
DNF Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault
DNF Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes
DNF Nico Hulkenberg - Renault
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:18 am

as a Verstappen fan I am very pleased

also I have about 1 week to grow my nails back before chomping them off again
 
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:00 pm

Standings after nine of twenty-one races:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ifications
247 Ferrari
237 Mercedes
189 Red Bull / Renault
62 Renault
49 Haas / Ferrari
44 McLaren / Renault
42 Force India / Mercedes
19 Toro Rosso / Honda
16 Sauber / Ferrari
4 Williams / Mercedes


146 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari
145 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes
101 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari
96 Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault
93 Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault
92 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes
37 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari
36 Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault
34 Nico Hulkenberg - Renault
28 Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault
23 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes
19 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes
18 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda
13 Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari
12 Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari
8 Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault
4 Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes
3 Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari
1 Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda
0 Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes
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Re: Formula One 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:22 am

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier is out:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula-one/44708491
Zak Brown wrote:
The performance of the MCL33 in 2018 has not met the expectations of anyone at McLaren, especially our loyal fans. This is not the fault of the hundreds of committed and hard-working men and women at McLaren. With today's announcement, we start to address those issues head on and take the first step on our road to recovery.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:33 am

Cuhulin wrote:
Do you think Alonso will drive for McLaren, perhaps with Andretti as he did last year, or will he seek a ride with Penske or one of the other IndyCar teams?
http://www.f1i.com/news/309794-mclaren- ... plans.html
Germany's Auto Motor und Sport wrote:
McLaren had been investigating the feasibility of running a full IndyCar schedule in 2019 in partnership with another team. McLaren shareholders Mansour Ojjeh and Sheikh Mohammed bin Essa Al Khalifa have put the plan on hold indefinitely as the team centers on stabilizing its F1 affairs.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:13 am

British Grand Prix qualifying and practice lap times (Q3/Q2/Q1/P3/P2/P1):
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ormation-8
85.9 / 86.3 / 86.8 / 86.7 / 87.7 / 87.5 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 322 kph
85.9 / 86.4 / 86.6 / 87.9 / 87.6 / 88.0 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - 325 kph
86.0 / 86.5 / 86.6 / 86.8 / 88.0 / 88.2 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari - 326 kph (202.3 mph)
86.2 / 86.4 / 87.0 / 87.4 / 87.9 / 87.9 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes - 321 kph
86.6 / 87.0 / 87.3 / 88.0 / DNF / 88.3 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Renault - 319 kph
87.1 / 87.4 / 88.0 / 88.0 / 88.4 / 88.1 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull / Renault - 317 kph
87.2 / 87.7 / 88.1 / 88.4 / 89.6 / 90.0 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 320 kph
87.5 / 87.5 / 88.1 / 88.6 / ----- / 89.4 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari - 321 kph
87.9 / 87.8 / 88.0 / 88.1 / 89.6 / 90.0 Charles LeClerc, Sauber / Ferrari - 320 kph
88.2 / 87.8 / 88.3 / 88.9 / 89.5 / 89.8 Esteban Ocon, Force India / Mercedes - 323 kph
------ / 87.9 / 88.0 / 89.1 / 89.4 / 90.7 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 317 kph
------ / 87.9 / 88.2 / 89.1 / 89.5 / 89.8 Sergio Perez, Force India / Mercedes - 322 kph
------ / 88.1 / 88.2 / 89.1 / 89.3 / 90.3 Fernando Alonso, McLaren / Renault - 315 kph
------ / 88.3 / 88.4 / 90.1 / 89.8 / 90.0 Pierre Gasly, Toro Rosso / Honda - 317 kph
------ / 88.4 / 88.3 / 88.8 / 90.0 / 89.9 Marcus Ericsson, Sauber / Ferrari - 318 kph
------ / ----- / 88.5 / 89.1 / 89.6 / 90.4 Carlos Sainz Jr., Renault - 317 kph
------ / ----- / 89.1 / 90.0 / 90.1 / 90.4 Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren / Renault - 314 kph
------ / ----- / 89.3 / 90.0 / 90.1 / 91.0 Sergey Sirotkin, Williams / Mercedes - 314 kph - Pit lane start for wing change
------ / ----- / DNF / 89.8 / 90.1 / 89.9 Lance Stroll, Williams / Mercedes - Pit lane start for wing change
------ / ----- / ----- / DNF / 90.4 / 90.7 Brendon Hartley, Toro Rosso / Honda - Pit lane start
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:01 pm

Results from Silverstone:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... fication-8
1 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari - 90.7s, 333 kph
2 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 91.2s, 340 kph
3 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari - 90.8s, 347 kph (215.5 mph)
4 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes - 91.4s, 323 kph
5 Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault - 91.6s, 334 kph
6 Nico Hulkenberg - Renault - 93.4s, 308 kph
7 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes - 93.6s, 322 kph
8 Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault - 93.5s, 333 kph
9 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari - 93.6s, 324 kph
10 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes - 93.5s, 346 kph
11 Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault - 93.6s, 327 kph
12 Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes - 93.9s, 317 kph
13 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda - 93.5s, 332 kph - 5s penalty for bumping past Perez cost him 10th place
14 Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes - 94.6s, 314 kph
DNF Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault - 92.0s, 313 kph
DNF Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari
DNF Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault
DNF Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari
DNF Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari
DNF Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:52 pm

Standings after ten of twenty-one races:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ifications
287 Ferrari
267 Mercedes
199 Red Bull / Renault
70 Renault
51 Haas / Ferrari
49 Force India / Mercedes
48 McLaren / Renault
19 Toro Rosso / Honda
16 Sauber / Ferrari
4 Williams / Mercedes


171 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari
163 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes
116 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari
106 Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault
104 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes
93 Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault
42 Nico Hulkenberg - Renault
40 Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault
39 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari
28 Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault
25 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes
24 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes
18 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda
13 Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari
12 Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari
8 Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault
4 Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes
3 Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari
1 Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda
0 Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:02 pm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... 57870/?s=1
Max Verstappen wrote:
We were super-slow on the straights... It's just incredibly frustrating... It was tragic. On the straights it's like you are driving in a different series.
{Asked if it was like F1 vs Formula 2}: Yes.
If Verstappen feels that his Red Bull is in a different series than Ferrari and Mercedes, how do Renault, Haas, McLaren, Force India, Toro Rosso and Sauber feel in the mid-field, let alone the laggards at Williams?
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:28 pm

One has to go back to 2013 to find a season with 4 teams winning races and 2012 with 6 teams.

EDIT: Just went on a Wiki Dance to find that 1982 was the most diverse season, with 8 winning teams (as defined by F1). 6 teams has been done in 1975, 1977, 1981, 1983, and 2012. 2012 is looking a bit like an outlier there.
What we have today is way too much pluribus and not enough unum.
 
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Re: Formula One 2018

Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:27 pm

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/240 ... stone-jibe
Minttu Raikkonen, to Lewis Hamilton, wrote:
If you cry like a girl when you lose, do ballet. #JustSaying
:lol:
Bonus pics of Mrs. Raikkonen: https://www.terve.fi/artikkelit/viihdyn ... vaatteissa

Didn't Jackie Stewart also refer to Lewis as a Prima Donna ballerina?
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:43 pm

I watched the entire race and Hamilton was a pissy little bitch on the radio the entire time. He simply can't understand why the rest of the field just won't get out of his way. Ayrton, no paragon of stability himself, would slap Lewis silly and tell him to man up and get on with it.

If only Finnish weren't so impenetrable.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:59 pm

There's a shakeup at Mercedes for 2019:
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/240 ... cture-2019
Mercedes engineering director Aldo Costa is to step back and move into a consultancy role from the start of 2019. Performance director Mark Ellis has decided to retire from his current position and will begin a sabbatical next year.
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:42 pm

I'll post it here because this spot makes the most sense.

In 1983 Stefan Bellof, driving a Porsche 956, set a lap record at the Nordschleife (6:11:13) that was widely assumed to be unbreakable. There have been only a handful of 6 minute times since then, and under 8 minutes is the goal of any car calling itself "sporting". In 2018, Porsche took its Le Mans-winning (2015-2017) 919 Hybrid and pulled off all of the limiters required to run at Le Man, turning it into the 919 Hybrid Evo.

It ran 5:19:55. Taking a second or two off the Nordschleife record is expected. Damn near a whole minute?? Inconceivable [/Vizzini]. Proof here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsLi7HgSuhI
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Re: Formula One 2018

Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:13 am

Jacques Villeneuve does not like Claire Williams.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vill ... 59333/?s=1
http://www.f1i.com/news/310722-villeneu ... harge.html
Jacques Villeneuve wrote:
The team is dead. You have to admit that you're screwed. I don't know how it can recover. I just don't see it.
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:48 pm

It's pretty bad when a test driver says that the paintjob is the only thing good about the car.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:46 pm

Provisional starting grid for German grand prix:
71.2 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari - 323 kph
71.4 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes - 321 kph
71.5 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari - 325 kph
71.8 Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault - 312 kph
72.2 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari - 320 kph
72.5 Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari - 321 kph
72.6 Nico Hulkenberg - Renault - 319 kph
72.7 Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault - 318 kph
72.7 Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari - 320 kph
72.8 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes - 327 kph (203 mph)
73.7 Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault - 312 kph
73.7 Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes - 321 kph
73.7 Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari - 324 kph
73.0 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 316 kph - hydraulic failure
73.7 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes - 320 kph
74.0 Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda - 314 kph
74.2 Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes - 320 kph
74.4 Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault - 314 kph
73.3 Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault - 311 kph - 20-spot drop for new power unit
73.7 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda - 318 kph - 20-spot drop for new power unit

It should be entertaining to watch Ricciardo and Hamilton carve their way through the field from their 19th and 14th starting positions.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:52 am

That was thrilling. I wonder if the teams will have enough time to review their mistakes before next week's race in Hungary?

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ication-26
1 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 1 stop - perfect team tire strategy won this race :D
2 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes - 2 stops - followed team orders to let Hamilton win
3 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari - 2 stops
4 Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault - 3 stops - uncharacteristically bad strategy calls from Red Bull
5 Nico Hulkenberg - Renault - 3 stops
6 Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari - 3 stops - passed four cars in the last six laps :)
7 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes - 1 stop
8 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes - 1 stop
9 Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari - 1 stop :)
10 Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda - 2 stops
11 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari - 3 stops
12 Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault - 3 stops - penalty for passing under safety car cost him two places
13 Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault - 2 stops
14 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda - 2 stops
15 Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari - 3 stops
DNF Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault - 4 stops
DNF Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes - 3 stops
DNF Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari - 1 stop - crashed while leading :(
DNF Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes - 2 stops
DNF Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault - That new Renault power unit didn't make it to the end of the race.


Standings after eleven of twenty-one races:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ifications
310 Mercedes
302 Ferrari
211 Red Bull / Renault
80 Renault
59 Haas / Ferrari
58 Force India / Mercedes
48 McLaren / Renault
21 Toro Rosso / Honda
18 Sauber / Ferrari
4 Williams / Mercedes

188 Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes
171 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari
131 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari
122 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes
106 Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull / Renault
105 Max Verstappen - Red Bull / Renault
52 Nico Hulkenberg - Renault
40 Fernando Alonso - McLaren / Renault
39 Kevin Magnussen - Haas / Ferrari
30 Sergio Perez - Force India / Mercedes
29 Esteban Ocon - Force India / Mercedes
28 Carlos Sainz Jr - Renault
20 Romain Grosjean - Haas / Ferrari
18 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso / Honda
13 Charles LeClerc - Sauber / Ferrari
8 Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren / Renault
4 Lance Stroll - Williams / Mercedes
5 Marcus Ericsson - Sauber / Ferrari
2 Brendon Hartley - Toro Rosso / Honda
0 Sergey Sirotkin - Williams / Mercedes


P.S.: Now the stewards have belatedly taken notice of Hamilton driving across the grass from the pit entry back onto to the race track. This seems likely to give Bottas the win.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... 62777/?s=1
FIA International Sporting Code, Appendix L, Chapter 4, Article 4 d) wrote:
"Except in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the stewards), the crossing, in any direction, of the line separating the pit entry and the track by a car entering the pit lane is prohibited."



P.P.S.: King Lewis gets off with a scolding.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... 62875/?s=1
Nish Shetty, Steve Stringwell and Mika Salo wrote:
Fact: Car 44 crossed the white line separating the pit entry and the track.
Offence: Breach of Appendix L Chapter IV Article 4 (d) of the FIA International Sporting Code.
Decision: A reprimand.

"It was clear that there was an infringement of the above mentioned rule - the driver clearly crossed the line separating the pit entry from the track." ...HOWEVER...
"In deciding on the penalty for the infringement, we took into account the following mitigating factors..."
RHIP. You could be certain that if Bottas or Raikkonen had committed the same infraction, there would have been a penalty.


P.P.P.S.: If a back-marker had done it, there would have been precedent:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/no-p ... 63082/?s=1
Charlie Whiting wrote:
It was not the same as an incident in Azerbaijan in 2016, where Kimi Raikkonen was penalised. "Kimi a couple of years ago in Baku got a five-second penalty, you may remember." In the 2017 Spanish GP, Pascal Wehrlein earned a five-second penalty for missing the bollard after a late call to stop. Felipe Massa received a drive-through in his final race for Ferrari in Brazil in 2013 for crossing the entry line when he made a stop in the race, while in another scenario Sergio Perez also received a drive through in the 2012 Monaco GP.
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Re: Formula One 2018

Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:31 pm

No Grand Prix in Miami next year:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/miam ... 63206/?s=1
Sean Bratches wrote:
These are complicated negotiations. Whilst our preference would have been to race in Miami in 2019, there was always a point by which delivering the best possible wheel-to-wheel racing experience for our fans, drivers and teams wouldn't be possible in the time available. We have now reached that point as far as racing in Miami in 2019 is concerned. However, we are taking a long-term view and as a result, we have decided, in consultation with the Miami authorities, to postpone sign-off until later in the summer, with the aim of running the first Formula 1 Miami Grand Prix in the 2020 season.
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:20 pm

I'm absolutely gutted after the German GP. Vettel should be leading the championship. At the very least Hamilton should have received a 10 second penalty for his aborted pit lane entry. Utter bollocks.
 
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:22 pm

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Jacques Villeneuve does not like Claire Williams.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vill ... 59333/?s=1
http://www.f1i.com/news/310722-villeneu ... harge.html
Jacques Villeneuve wrote:
The team is dead. You have to admit that you're screwed. I don't know how it can recover. I just don't see it.

Villeneuve needs to put a cork in it. This is a guy who threw away his career at BAR.
 
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Re: Formula One 2018

Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:42 am

Silly season is really getting going now.

http://www.f1i.com/news/312035-lawrence ... india.html
Did Lance Stroll's dad just buy Force India for his son to have a more competitive seat than the woeful Williams?
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Re: Formula One 2018

Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:58 pm

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/44984148
Claire Williams wrote:
Williams has been criticized for signing two inexperienced drivers who bring money to the team, but Claire Williams said she had no regrets about choosing Lance Stroll and Sergey Sirotkin. "Put Lewis Hamilton in our car, and I'm not sure he could have made a huge amount of difference. I feel sorry for Lance and Sergey. The car just doesn't have the performance. Lance and Sergey are young but.... They have had an enormous amount of criticism leveled at them, and that is somewhat unfair. I don't think any driver could have made that much difference to our performance."

Williams' claim was questioned by BBC F1 analyst Jolyon Palmer. The former Renault driver, who was on the grid last year, pointed out that Stroll was 0.8 secs on average slower in qualifying than former team-mate Felipe Massa in the second half of last season, and that the Brazilian was not as fast as four-time world champion Hamilton. Williams have the slowest car this year on average qualifying pace, 0.4 secs behind Sauber, 0.5 secs off Toro Rosso and 0.7 secs off McLaren. The McLaren's benchmark lap times are set by double world champion Fernando Alonso, who is regarded by many as on a similar level to Hamilton.


I disagree with Claire. A talented driver can make a difference. Alonso's qualifying prowess is certainly making Stoffel Vandoorne look bad (with an average difference of 1/3 of a second), but there are significant qualifying imbalances at Ferrari and Sauber, as well.
https://www.racefans.net/2018-f1-season ... ying-data/

One also expects that an experienced driver can help his or her team's engineers by providing better feedback than a tyro.
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