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druidcent wrote:I personally think Garrapolo is getting too much credit for fixing the 9'ers.. I'm willing to be proven wrong..
I see the AFC west doesn't even make the commentary
superjawes wrote:I see the AFC west doesn't even make the commentary
The AFC West is just...weird? I think Denver is on the verge of a complete collapse because Elway doesn't have the patience to develop a QB. I see a ton of people like the Chargers, but they never have a home game. I don't know if Gruden can fix the Raiders (although I don't think they were completely broken to begin with), and KC will depend on how their new QB does. Alex Smith showed that he is still really good, but the Chiefs let him go for the new guy, and that's saying something. Overall, though, I don't see any of these teams making it past the first round of the playoffs, so there isn't much to say right now.
TheEmrys wrote:I don't see Garappolo as being all that good, or even great. I see him as being very average. However, average is still valuable.
Also, Mack -> Bears.
druidcent wrote:I think at least part of Denver's problem is that there isn't any stability at the QB position. I think they had a good combo last year. Siemian seems like backup material, so he's your insurance policy. Lynch was the drafted choice, so he should have been the primary starter to get experience. Then they've got the alt-starter in Osweiler, who had history with the team. Lynch didn't get a chance until way late in the season, and after he got injured, they went back to Siemian (who had been benched in Week 9 due to ineffectiveness).Curious... I'll grant that Bronco's haven't selected a good quarterback in a while, but the last couple years seems to be giving the quarterbacks that were drafted a chance. Considering the Bronco's D isn't that different from the Super Bowl 50 team, you don't think a quarterback who gives them a chance to play will get them through the first round at least?
Pro Football Focus, on August 6 wrote:Mike Sando's ESPN QB ranking article based on surveys of NFL executives is behind a paywall, but here is an excerpt:NFL quarterback rankings
1. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
2. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
3. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
5. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
6. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
7. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
8. Phillip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers
9. Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagles (still sidelined by late-2017 knee injury. Nick Foles will start)
10. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
11. Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers
12. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys
13. Derek Carr, Oakland Raiders
14. Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings
15. Alex Smith, Washington Redskins
16. Marcus Mariota, Tennessee Titans
17. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
18. Jared Goff, Los Angeles Rams
19. Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (suspended 3 games for groping an Uber driver. Ryan Fitzpatrick will start)
20. Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans
21. Tyrod Taylor, Cleveland Browns
22. Sam Bradford, Arizona Cardinals
23. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
24. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins
25. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs
26. Mitchell Trubisky, Chicago Bears
27. Blake Bortles, Jacksonville Jaguars
28. Eli Manning, New Jersey Giants
29. Case Keenum, Denver Broncos
30. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
31. Josh McCown, New Jersey Jets
32. A.J. McCarron, Buffalo Bills (traded to the Raiders on 9/2 for a 6th round pick. Nathan Peterman will start)
JustAnEngineer wrote:It was Rick Smith that gave Brock Osweiler $37 million guaranteed and then gave up the 4th pick in the 2nd round of the 2018 draft to get out from under that contract. Elway passed on that opportunity.
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Projected regular season wins:
AFC East:
11.0 New England Patriots
7.0 New Jersey Jets
6.9 Miami Dolphins
6.0 Buffalo Bills
AFC North:
10.3 Pittsburgh Steelers
8.2 Baltimore Ravens
6.6 Cincinnati Bengals
5.4 Cleveland Browns
AFC South:
8.8 Jacksonville Jaguars
8.1 Houston Texans
8.1 Tennessee Titans
6.7 Indianapolis Colts
AFC West:
9.0 Los Angeles Chargers
8.2 Kansas City Chiefs
7.2 Denver Broncos
7.2 Oakland Raiders
NFC East:
10.3 Philadelphia Eagles
8.6 Dallas Cowboys
6.7 New Jersey Giants
6.7 Washington Redskins
NFC North:
9.9 Minnesota Vikings
9.4 Green Bay Packers
8.2 Detroit Lions
6.6 Chicago Bears
NFC South:
9.8 Atlanta Falcons
9.7 New Orleans Saints
8.2 Carolina Panthers
6.3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
NFC West:
9.4 Los Angeles Rams
8.1 San Francisco 49ers
8.0 Seattle Seahawks
6.2 Arizona Cardinals
superjawes wrote:
2018 Kickoff Game 9/6
Atlanta Falcons at Philadelphia Eagles
JustAnEngineer wrote:Vinatieri should definitely have that record before Thanksgiving.
superjawes wrote:Some folks will blame Le'Veon Bell's selfishness for that.The Browns didn't lose.
Mean Joe Greene wrote:Le'Veon Bell is still holding out because a $14½ million/year ($855,000 per week) guaranteed franchise tender wasn't enough for him and because he doesn't want to risk an injury fulfilling his existing contract with the Steelers this year that might jeopardize his ability to sign a more massive contract with a different team next year.Selfish players who think only of themselves … in my day they’d be gone. They can take away your championship dreams.
paulWTAMU wrote:snap a multiseason losing streak without winning. How the hell
JustAnEngineer wrote:...played all five quarters...