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Re: Formula One 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:55 am

Thank you for the fix.

JustAnEngineer wrote:
With the exception of Montreal, McLaren has certainly appeared to be in much improved form this season.

Agreed - Racefans had a nice interview with Andreas Seidl at McLaren, and he seems to be a factor in them going about quietly delivering results. Yesterday was particularly interesting to see how Max pulled away from the McLarens, while Gasly couldn't make any inroads into their track position.

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Given the delays and the watering-down of changes for 2021

Yeah, that has been a series of one disappointment after the other. I think the only "planned but cancelled" change that I was happy about was the deletion of the MGU-H, I'm glad it's being retained, as it is a technical marvel. The most annoying is the retention of Ferrari's veto and their bonuses. If Ross Brawn doesn't deliver on the ability of cars to follow one another better in turbulent air, then 2021 will end up a damp squib.
 
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Re: Formula One 2019

Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:43 am

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/27 ... w-fix-them
A layman's guide to the issues killing Formula One... and how to fix each of them
Nate Saunders and Laurence Edmondson, ESPN wrote:
Even the most committed Formula One fan would struggle to believe motor racing's pinnacle series is in a healthy state at the moment.
An uneven playing field
· Inequality in performance, · Inequality in budget, · Dominance by one team
The decision-making process
Penalties galore
· A convoluted rulebook, · Track layouts
'Driving like grandmas'
· Management mode, · Tyres, · Lack of overtaking, · DRS
The V6 turbo era
· Sound, · Engine politics, · Engine penalties
Why can't they just all drive the same car?
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:44 pm

Starting grid for Austrian Grand Prix:
63.0 Charles LeClerc, Ferrari - new track record
63.4 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Honda
63.5 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes
63.3 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes - 3-place penalty for impeding Raikkonen
64.1 Lando Norris, McLaren / Renault
64.1 Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
64.2 Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
64.0 Pierre Gasly, Red Bull / Honda
63.7 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari - no time set in Q3
64.1 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari - 5-place penalty for new gearbox
64.5 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari
64.6 Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
64.8 Sergio Perez, Racing Point / Mercedes
64.8 Lance Stroll, Racing Point / Mercedes
64.5 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault - 5-place penalty for new engine
65.3 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Honda
66.2 Robert Kubica, Williams / Mercedes
65.9 George Russell, Williams / Mercedes - 3-place penalty for impeding Kvyat
64.7 Alexander Albon, Toro Rosso / Honda - back of grid start for two new engines
63.6 Carlos Sainz, McLaren / Renault - back of grid start for new engine
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:36 am

Surprise surprise. FIA's website is down right now. If they steal another race ...
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:20 am

Captain Ned wrote:
Surprise surprise. FIA's website is down right now. If they steal another race ...
https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/fia.com.html
Fia.com is DOWN for everyone.
It is not just you. The server is not responding...

It'd take some very creative stewards' rulings to gift another win to Hamilton.

As boring and terrible as the French Grand Prix was, today's race was one of the two best of the season.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:29 am

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It'd take some very creative stewards' rulings to gift another win to Hamilton.

As boring and terrible as the French Grand Prix was, today's race was one of the two best of the season.

My worry is that this is how they "fix" Canada and keep Ferrari happy.

Best race of the season along with the best drive.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:48 am

If you do keep re-loading through the 504 errors, FIA has posted nothing at all since the race began.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:00 pm

And FIA gets one right for once. Max keeps his well-deserved win.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:15 pm

Today was the third podium of the year for Verstappen's Honda-powered Red Bull. Before this year, a Honda-powered car had not appeared on a podium since Rubens Barichellow finished 3rd driving for Honda at Silverstone in 2008. A Honda-powered car had not won a race since Jenson Button won the Hungarian Grand Prix driving for Honda in 2006. Before that, you'd have to go back to when Gerhard Berger and Ayrton Senna drove for McLaren/Honda in 1992.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:31 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Today was the third podium of the year for Verstappen's Honda-powered Red Bull. Before this year, a Honda-powered car had not appeared on a podium since Rubens Barichellow finished 3rd driving for Honda at Silverstone in 2008. A Honda-powered car had not won a race since Jenson Button won the Hungarian Grand Prix driving for Honda in 2006. Before that, you'd have to go back to when Gerhard Berger and Ayrton Senna drove for McLaren/Honda in 1992.


Very nice stats.

Say what one will, but it is a testament to RBR's designers, drivers and strategists that they've been able to take victories with both of the inferior PUs in F1. While I'd be surprised to see them repeating the feat again (hmm, maybe Singapore?), it is nonetheless a good result for them. The lesser said about Gasly, the better. He isn't even providing a clear separation between the top 3 and the midfield!

Leclerc just cannot catch a break! :)
 
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Re: Formula One 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:45 pm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rich ... r/4492155/
William Storey wrote:
"Today rich_energy terminated our contract with @HaasF1Team for poor performance. We aim to beat @redbullracing & being behind @WilliamsRacing in Austria is unacceptable. The politics and PC attitude in @F1 is also inhibiting our business.”
RaceFans.net wrote:
The highest-placed Haas driver in the Austrian Grand Prix was Romain Grosjean, who finished 16th, two places ahead of the leading Williams of George Russell in 18th. Grosjean’s team mate Kevin Magnussen came 19th ahead of Robert Kubica in the other Williams.

P.S.: This gets even weirder...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rich ... l/4492346/
Rich Energy Shareholders wrote:
"The deal is not terminated and William has no authority to do so. The investors are trying to clear up the PR mess, but it's business as usual."
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Re: Formula One 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:54 pm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/silv ... 4/4491955/
Chase Carey wrote:
"We are really pleased to confirm that the British Grand Prix will stay on the calendar for at least the next five years, with the event remaining at its long-standing home, Silverstone circuit. We have always said that, if it is to have a long-term future, our sport must preserve its historic venues and Silverstone and Great Britain represent the cradle of this sport, its starting point back in 1950. Today, Formula 1 is a global sport, held on five continents, watched by an audience of over 500 million fans around the world and our aim is to grow this number by bringing the sport we love to new countries, while also maintaining its roots: Silverstone and the British Grand Prix are an integral part of that vision."
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Re: Formula One 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:55 pm

Did anyone ever expect F1 decisions to be based on reality and/or common sense?

It's long past time to ditch the current regs and go back to a simple "you've got a 3 litre turbo motor, the rest is up to you". In my heart, I'd much rather see F1 adopt the 1967-1973 CanAm rules, a/k/a Mills Lane "I'll allow it".
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Re: Formula One 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:18 pm

As complicated as the current power units are, the four current suppliers have got a decent handle on it. Making them spend money on a complete redesign wouldn't necessarily benefit the racing.

I'm just an ignorant fan, but if I wanted to tweak the power unit rules, I would leave the existing 1.6-liter aluminum V6 15k rpm Internal Combustion Engine pretty much the same and I would let them use a triple-sized Energy Store with double the currently-allowed (4 MJ per lap discharge, 2 MJ per lap charge) energy transfer rates. This would push development of the ES and the MGU-K - which could conceivably lead to better electirc and hybrid production cars in the far future for Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault and Honda.

I'd also cut the aerodynamic downforce in half by returning the cars to the 1.8 meter width and getting rid of the barge boards and all of the aerodynamic crap outside of the body of the car, leaving much simpler wings.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:23 pm

Starting grid for British Grand Prix:
85.1 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes
85.1 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
85.2 Charles LeClerc, Ferrari
85.3 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Honda
85.6 Pierre Gasly, Red Bull / Honda
85.8 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari
86.2 Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
86.2 Lando Norris, McLaren / Renault
86.3 Alexander Albon, Toro Rosso / Honda
86.4 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
86.4 Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
86.5 Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
86.2 Carlos Sainz, McLaren / Renault
86.3 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari
86.6 Sergio Perez, Racing Point / Mercedes
86.7 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari
86.7 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Honda
86.8 Lance Stroll, Racing Point / Mercedes
87.8 George Russell, Williams / Mercedes
88.3 Robert Kubica, Williams / Mercedes

Unless Ferrari's race strategists are certain that it will rain in the first 10 laps of tomorrow's race, I cannot understand why they did not let Leclerc's excellent 85.5s lap on the medium tires stand. He still would have been fastest in Q2, a comfortable 0.986 seconds faster than the cut-off to make it from Q2 to Q1.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:47 pm

Standings after ten of twenty-one races
407 Mercedes (out of 440 possible)
243 Ferrari
191 Red Bull / Honda
60 McLaren / Renault
39 Renault
26 Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
19 Racing Point / Mercedes
19 Toro Rosso / Honda
16 Haas / Ferrari
0 Williams / Mercedes


223 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes (out of 260 possible)
184 Vatteri Bottas, Mercedes
136 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Honda
123 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari
120 Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
55 Pierre Gasly, Red Bull / Honda
38 Carlos Sainz, McLaren / Renault
25 Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
22 Lando Norris, McLaren / Renault
22 Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
17 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
14 Kevin Magussen, Haas / Ferari
13 Sergio Perez, Racing Point / Mercedes
12 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Honda
7 Alexander Albon, Toro Rosso / Honda
6 Lance Stroll, Racing Point / Mercedes
2 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari
1 Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
0 George Russell, Williams / Mercedes
0 Robert Kubica, Williams / Mercedes

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ifications is still wrong!


Hamilton got lucky today when the safety car came out for Giovinazzi's spin, gifting him the win that Bottas had securely in the bag up until that point.
Vettel made another high-profile error under pressure. It's not a good look for a former world champion.
LeClerc and Verstappen, meanwhile, continued to show us that they've got the best driving form on the grid.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:03 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-championship/season-2019/2019-classifications is still wrong!

Now that's just plain embarrassing! Does the webmaster/CMS chap not even cross reference their partners Formula1.com site, as a one-minute sanity check?

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Hamilton got lucky today when the safety car came out for Giovinazzi's spin, gifting him the win that Bottas had securely in the bag up until that point.
Vettel made another high-profile error under pressure. It's not a good look for a former world champion.
LeClerc and Verstappen, meanwhile, continued to show us that they've got the best driving form on the grid.

The Britons must be feeling quite elated yesterday, between their success in F1 and the Cricket World Cup (and grateful for one fortuitously-timed safety car, and one "overthrow").

I think Bottas had lost the race even before the SC - his first stop put him back on the mediums, so he was committed to a two stop. I don't know at what point Mercedes switched Hamilton to a one-stopper, but it was definitely before the SC, given they ran his first stint much longer. Hamilton just got a bonus by pitting under the SC and not losing the 18-20 seconds this pit lane causes. He definitely seemed to have pace in hand in his second stint, seeing how he set the fastest lap of the race.

Leclerc and Max (and Lando, Russell and Albon) all make me very excited for the future of the sport - let's just hope the regulations and finances allow for all of them to be in competitive machinery quickly! The battle between Leclerc and Max was thrilling and ferocious, and I wish to see more of this.

Vettel's misjudgement in itself wasn't too bad, but when seen alongside the litany of errors (driving and judgement) he's made in recent years it does not look good. His recovery drive from Brazil 2012 is such a faraway memory.
 
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:57 pm

We've got the German Grand Prix at Hockenheim coming up on 7/28 (which may be the last one for a while) and the Hungarian Grand Prix on 8/04, then we've got four weeks off before the Italian Grand Prix on 9/01. With no racing for four weeks, we can count on the bored reporters generating a ton of silly season speculation during the month of August.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:05 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
With no racing for four weeks, we can count on the bored reporters generating a ton of silly season speculation during the month of August.

Ha ha, good point. Vettel and the Haas duo aren't doing themselves any favours, either. Surprisingly, Gasly might be spared from media speculation if he performs in the next two races the way he did yesterday.
 
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Re: Formula One 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:06 am

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The Haas duo aren't doing themselves any favours.
https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/27 ... -collision
Gunther Steiner wrote:
The best that our drivers could bring to the battle was a shovel – to dig the hole we’re in even deeper.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:25 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
arunphilip wrote:
The Haas duo aren't doing themselves any favours.
https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/27 ... -collision
Gunther Steiner wrote:
The best that our drivers could bring to the battle was a shovel – to dig the hole we’re in even deeper.


Yeah, I saw that on Haas' site, in their race report :)

Steiner has given his drivers a lot of rope in the past, and now they've managed to hang themselves with it. I think we'll see at least one new face in their driver pairing for 2020. Hey, £35 million might get them a better driver.

PS: Obligatory Storey snark.
 
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Re: Formula One 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:42 am

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/27 ... alls-again
Jake Michaels wrote:
Grosjean has had more retirements in 2019 than Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull, Alfa Romeo, Racing Point and Williams combined.


Jeremy Clarkson wrote:
They can all f* off, the lot of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdalHDSQRDk (NSFW: language)

Stefan Johansson was much more articulate on the subject of improving formula 1:
https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic ... 9#p1404497
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Re: Formula One 2019

Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:22 pm

The forecast calls for rain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hxVZvG897U
LOL at 05:30 to 06:05 of that classic clip.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:10 am

I wouldn't want to be a Ferrari race engineer right about now. I can only imagine the invective emanating from Maranello.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:02 pm

Starting grid for German Grand Prix:
71.8 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
72.1 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Honda
72.1 Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes
72.4 Pierre Gasly, Red Bull / Honda - his fastest 72.1s lap was disallowed for leaving the track
72.5 Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
72.8 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari
72.6 Carlos Sainz, McLaren / Renault
72.8 Sergio Perez, Racing Point / Mercedes
72.8 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
72.2 Charles LeClerc, Ferrari - no time set in Q3
72.8 Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
72.8 Kevin Magnussen, Haas / Ferrari
72.8 Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
73.1 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Honda
73.3 Lance Stroll, Racing Point / Mercedes - first time to make it into Q2 in 15 races
73.5 Alexander Albon, Toro Rosso / Honda
74.7 George Russell, Williams / Mercedes
74.8 Robert Kubica, Williams / Mercedes - has been slower than Russell in 11 of 11 qualifying attempts this season.
73.3 Lando Norris, McLaren / Renault - grid penalty for new energy store, control electronics and MGU-K
No time set - Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:18 am

Nothing like a spot of rain to make a race interesting.

Edit: Hamilton and Bottas out of the points? Makes for a perfect race weekend from my POV. Can't wait to read his whinging.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:27 am

Can we modify the regulations to require rain at more grand prix races? Verstappen won despite making five pit stops. Of the seven cars retired from the race, only Ricciardo's Renault suffered engine failure. The other six were due to crashes as the tricky conditions were unforgiving for driver errors.

Way back in 2008, Sebastian Vettel won a race in the rain for Toro Rosso. Daniil Kvyat's 3rd place today was only the second podium finish in Toro Rosso team history, even going back to their 1985-2005 incarnation as Minardi.


Standings after eleven of twenty-one races
407 409 Mercedes (out of 484 possible)
261 Ferrari
217 Red Bull / Honda
70 McLaren / Renault
42 Toro Rosso / Honda
39 Renault
36 26 Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
31 Racing Point / Mercedes
19 26 Haas / Ferrari
0 1 Williams / Mercedes


223 225 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes (out of 286 possible)
184 Vatteri Bottas, Mercedes
162 Max Verstappen, Red Bull / Honda
141 Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari
120 Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
55 Pierre Gasly, Red Bull / Honda
48 Carlos Sainz, McLaren / Renault
31 25 Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
27 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso / Honda
22 Lando Norris, McLaren / Renault
22 Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
18 Lance Stroll, Racing Point / Mercedes
17 Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
15 18 Kevin Magussen, Haas / Ferari
15 Alexander Albon, Toro Rosso / Honda
13 Sergio Perez, Racing Point / Mercedes
5 1 Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo / Ferrari
4 8 Romain Grosjean, Haas / Ferrari
0 1 Robert Kubica, Williams / Mercedes
0 George Russell, Williams / Mercedes

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ifications is still wrong!

P.S.: Both Alfa Romeos received 30-second penalties for soft clutches at the launch of the grand prix.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:14 am

13 cars running at the end and still Williams can't get a single point.
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Re: Formula One 2019

Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:03 pm

Captain Ned wrote:
13 cars running at the end and still Williams can't get a single point.
You asked; the stewards delivered:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alfa ... i/4503081/
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Re: Formula One 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:39 pm

Silly Season is underway:
https://www.racefans.net/2019/07/31/sil ... -for-2020/
The hot rumor right now is that Verstappen and Vettel will swap seats. :-?
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