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TheEmrys wrote:His HR rate is up due to his that silly little park he's playing in. He might not be considering retirement if he were playing in a more pitcher friendly park.
Skrying wrote:There's basically no chance Halladay will reach 300 wins. He's at 160 for his career and he's 32, his winning percentage is at a very good 67.6% (that's actually really good). What what everyone has been saying CC Sabathia is the most likely currently playing to reach 300 but even that is a real long stretch, he's 29 with 122 wins. But yeah... they're not going to reach it.
Skrying wrote:I don't think wins is a "metric." Fantasy baseball fans don't use wins to talk about who is having the best season. Average fans who only care about their home team talk about the number of wins a pitcher has. It's a stat, something very easy for your average fan to grasp.
Skrying wrote:It's a stat, something very easy for your average fan to grasp.
derFunkenstein wrote:Skrying wrote:It's a stat, something very easy for your average fan to grasp.
Which is why the entirety of the rest of your post is wrong. EVERYONE "gets" wins - he pitched for the winning team and he was the guy pitching (officially) when the team took their final lead of the game. Unfortunately the average fan equates pitchers with high numbers of wins with being good. Case in point: Bronson Arroyo is currently tied for the NL leader in wins. Is he "OMGAWESOME????" Hell no. You know who he's tied with? Contrast that with another guy on the list (there are 5 with 7 according to baseball-reference.com) - Johann Santana. They've both tossed roughly the same number of innings, but Santana blows Arroyo away in pretty much any important category.
Skrying wrote:Huh? I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to point out here.
MaxTheLimit wrote:I can't think of any major league pitcher right now that has more than 3 seasons and a average win per hear matching that. Halliday is 13 (though if you look at his productive years since hitting his stride in 2002 it's more like 16 wins) and for CC he's been a 14 game per year winner. Unfortunately for CC he has a few hit and miss years, and Halliday just became dominant too late in his career.
MaxTheLimit wrote:He has a perfect delivery and can probably be dominant for a long time and avoid injury throughout his career.