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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:55 pm

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That was super cold.


Actually, I do that a lot of the time too. Some details get left behind, and vendor websites are more about showing the bling. Want to know what PCIe version those extra slots are running? Get the manual.

You are missing the point. They were ripping into the original poster.


THEY were NOT ripping into original poster-The original post was-My post was aimed at "DragonDaddyBear"
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:16 pm

Also, JAEs linking you to X399 gear, not X299.

I was eyeing off that board myself. From memory, the primary slot is the one with the heatsink over it under the southbridge. Whack it in there :)
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:41 am

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JAE is linking you to X399 gear, not X299.
Doh! Add that to the ever-growing list of ways to do it wrong.

I have corrected the links above.
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:53 am

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Especially the Front Panel PIN arrangement since it can vary between motherboard manufacturers and not every vendor provides the handy "lego" connector block.


Do we know which vendors do tend to provide those? I would like to only ever give them my business.
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:53 am

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There are quite a few wrong ways to avoid:
If your heatsink comes with a protective plastic sheet over the thermal interface material, you are probably supposed to peel off the sheet before placing the cooler on your processor.
If you have a floppy power connector, don't attach it to a 4-pin fan control header on your motherboard.
If your case has relocatable standoffs for different sizes of motherboard, be certain that you don't have an extra one grounding out your motherboard where it should not.
If you are assembling a very compact case (e.g.: some of them from Silverstone), the order of assembly matters much more than it does in a large ATX tower case. It is frustrating to have to undo seven or eight assembly steps to go back to the one that you skipped.


Actually I had a little moment of hesitation, heat sink covering M.2 SSD slot had two layers, one black, thick, soft one feeling like very soft rubber and on the top of it was a thin, blue, transparent plastic one.
I assumed that the outside plastic one was just a protection for the "real" thermal paste equivalent soft part and I removed it.

If you have a floppy power connector, don't attach it to a 4-pin fan control header on your motherboard. Hmm, I do not understand that one. Please clarify...

Assembly order, do you think that TR guide order will do the trick?
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:54 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
juzz86 wrote:
JAE is linking you to X399 gear, not X299.
Doh! Add that to the ever-growing list of ways to do it wrong.

I have corrected the links above.


I have caught that. I have a proper one now. http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/X299 ... ort-manual
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:01 am

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Especially the Front Panel PIN arrangement since it can vary between motherboard manufacturers and not every vendor provides the handy "lego" connector block.


Do we know which vendors do tend to provide those? I would like to only ever give them my business.


Apologies, I should have stated that not every motherboard company supplies a handy connector block with each product release. I do not mean to presume a third party vendor can provide those blocks since it will need to meet the specific pin-out arrangement for each company.
In my experience, ASUS and MSI supply what they call "M" or "Q" connectors as well as a convenient USB pin blocks that are time-savers in their higher-end motherboard kits. It would be nice if it was an industry standard practice. My eyes are getting worse and without those little helpers I need to use a magnifying glass to connect the wires to the tiny pins. :o
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:13 am

I installed https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 12K54C9643 as mobo manual said:

M2P_32G/M2M_32G (Note)/M2Q_32G(M.2 Socket 3 Connectors)
The M.2 connectors support M.2 SATA SSDs or M.2 PCIe SSDs and support RAID configuration. Please
note that an M.2 PCIe SSD cannot be used to create a RAID set either with an M.2 SATA SSD or a SATA
hard drive. To create a RAID array with an M.2 PCIe SSD, you must set up the configuration in UEFI BIOS
mode. Refer to Chapter 3, "Configuring a RAID Set," for instructions on configuring a RAID array.

Follow the steps below to correctly install an M.2 SSD in the M.2 connector. The following steps demonstrate
how to install an M.2 SSD in the M2Q_32G connector.

Step 1:
Get a screw and a standoff from the included M.2
screw kit. Locate the M.2 connector where you will
install the M.2 SSD, use a screwdriver to unfasten the
screw on the heatsink and then remove the heatsink.
(Only the M2Q_32G connector has the heatsink)

Step 2:
Locate the proper mounting hole for the M.2 SSD
to be installed and then tighten the standoff first.
Insert the M.2 SSD into the M.2 connector at an
angle.

Step 3:
Press the M.2 SSD down and then secure it with
the screw. Replace the heatsink and secure it to
the original hole.

Step 4:
The installation is completed, as shown in the
picture above.


Question: How do I know if https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 12K54C9643 is M2P, M2M or M2Q type?
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:31 pm

 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:47 pm

arb65912 wrote:
Question: How do I know if https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 12K54C9643 is M2P, M2M or M2Q type?
PCIe x4 NVMe drives are M.2 type "M".
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:49 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
arb65912 wrote:
Question: How do I know if https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 12K54C9643 is M2P, M2M or M2Q type?
. PCIe x4 NVMe drives are M.2 type "M".


Honestly I was going to have to look this up.
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:58 pm

OK, so can I say that P, M and Q in full socket descriptions M2P_32G M2M_32G M2Q_32G are just indicators to distinguish between different sockets locations on mobo?
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:43 pm

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OK, so can I say that P, M and Q in full socket descriptions M2P_32G M2M_32G M2Q_32G are just indicators to distinguish between different sockets locations on mobo?
Yes. Note on page 36 that these share PCIe lanes with SATA controllers on the motherboard. If you install your PCIe SSD in slot M2Q_32G, it will disable SATA3 ports 4, 5, 6 and 7. If you install it in either of the other two ports, all 8 of your SATA3 ports should still work.
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:39 am

Thank you very much. I understand it but partially die to my lack of general computer knowledge.
Could anybody post here any links to sources I could learn in general about modern computers design, work, components etc. ?
Thank you.
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:51 am

Just a quick tip. I think TR's build guide video (at the bottom of the first page) can be very helpful for lesser experienced builders. Worth a watch if you haven't already.
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:52 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
arb65912 wrote:
OK, so can I say that P, M and Q in full socket descriptions M2P_32G M2M_32G M2Q_32G are just indicators to distinguish between different sockets locations on mobo?
Yes. Note on page 36 that these share PCIe lanes with SATA controllers on the motherboard. If you install your PCIe SSD in slot M2Q_32G, it will disable SATA3 ports 4, 5, 6 and 7. If you install it in either of the other two ports, all 8 of your SATA3 ports should still work.


OK, I love it!!!!
I installed PCIe in slot M2Q_32G but then I went to Gigabyte website and there is a chart that shows optimal installation location depending on the processor, mobo, GPU number and something else...
For my setup it was recommended to use M2P_32G slot.

Question: what would the advantage of installing PCIe in slot M2Q_32G? It disables 4 SATA ports.
Sorry for probably silly question....
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:04 pm

If you had three PCIe M.2 SSDs, you would want to use all three ports on the motherboard. Otherwise, there may be some fine points of resource sharing that make one of the ports a better choice than the others when you have just one drive.
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:48 pm

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Just a quick tip. I think TR's build guide video (at the bottom of the first page) can be very helpful for lesser experienced builders. Worth a watch if you haven't already.

Yes, watched the video again. Outdated but still very valuable for inexperienced builders like me. Thank you! :wink:
 
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Re: Help with System Guide: Sept 2017 Work and Play

Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:50 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
If you had three PCIe M.2 SSDs, you would want to use all three ports on the motherboard. Otherwise, there may be some fine points of resource sharing that make one of the ports a better choice than the others when you have just one drive.


Fair enough. :D I just wonder what would be these finer points ... but I guess it is beyond my comprehension anyway. Thank you tons!!!!

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