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SoM
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Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:55 pm

Hey Gerbils,

last Intel was a 486dx4 133mhz, been AMD since and still love my current rig :) on with the show.

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Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16
MX200 1TB
950 Pro 512GB
EVGA 1080
EVGA Supernova G2 750W


let me know what you think please.

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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:00 pm

Looks good, some will say reduce the PSU...but ya never know ya might want another 1080 for SLI down the road:)
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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:05 pm

I'd personally agree with the above. Definitely don't need 750W for that build (but it's not outrageous either), and I also prefer Seasonic power supplies, but that's more personal preference than anything. Have you considered a mATX build? Looks like you don't have any expansion cards beyond the 1080, which would lend nicely to a smaller and possibly quieter system.

I actually have a similar system (in my sig) that is all mATX and I love it.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:12 pm

DancinJack wrote:
I'd personally agree with the above. Definitely don't need 750W for that build (but it's not outrageous either), and I also prefer Seasonic power supplies, but that's more personal preference than anything. Have you considered a mATX build? Looks like you don't have any expansion cards beyond the 1080, which would lend nicely to a smaller and possibly quieter system.

I actually have a similar system (in my sig) that is all mATX and I love it.


i'll be adding more to it later so i'll stay with that 750w

mATX never crossed my mind, i like mine BIG :)

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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:13 pm

vargis14 wrote:
Looks good, some will say reduce the PSU...but ya never know ya might want another 1080 for SLI down the road:)


never know, keeping options open

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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:19 pm

My system build history is somewhat similar. Evga has recently lured me away from Seasonic PSU's for the first few times in a long time. Built like tanks.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:33 pm

Looks good. I'm jealous.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:34 pm

MOSFET wrote:
My system build history is somewhat similar. Evga has recently lured me away from Seasonic PSU's for the first few times in a long time. Built like tanks.


the only problem i've had with EVGA was on my GTX 460 which was quickly RMA'd

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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:35 pm

Have you thought about the EVGA P2 650W?

See GTX 1080 system power draw with an i7-5960X CPU. Even adding a second GTX 1080 to TR's system only puts you at 445W draw.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:39 pm

DPete27 wrote:
Have you thought about the EVGA P2 650W for $80 after MIR?

See GTX 1080 system power draw with an i7-5960X CPU.


yeah i looked at it, got the 750 from TR sys guide

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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:06 pm

I was just looking at the Samsung SM961 NVMe m.2 SSD. It should perform better than the 950 and is available in 1tb size.

I am partial to heat pipe tower coolers using 120mm fans, there are several choices that can handle a 6700k easily, probably with less noise than a H80i. I really want to try the new Corsair ML series magnetic levitation fans (no motor noise) on a tower heat sink too.

My 6700k runs nice and cool with a nice 92mm tower cooler (due to my HTPC style case height).
 
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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:14 pm

i've done some changes, not going LC yet

Fractal R5 case
i5-6600k
212 EVO
Z170 Pro Gaming
Ripjaws V  2*8
EVGA 1070
EVGA G2 650w
950 pro 256gb
850 evo 500gb
RoG PG278Q


would a noctua D15S be better ?

that alone is $2869.90 +tax from EGG

might scratch the RoG, it all depends how much i get next week.

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Re: Intel PC Build

Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:54 pm

If you want to overclock the CPU a lot, that is a nice CPU cooler.

If you don't want to push it to the very limit, there are several CPU coolers that will overclock well enough for half the price.

After my Macho 90, I want to try one of the Thermalright True Spirit models.

For my purposes a 6700k at stock clocks is just fine and runs cool. You don't need much more than a box style CPU cooler to get there so in my opinion it is easy to find something good enough.

Initially I was looking at Noctua's 90mm CPU coolers and they are very nice but I went with Thermalright because it was cheaper and good enough. The tests I saw suggest that it was within a degree or two of Noctua.

I think my Thermalright is overkill also, it is just that there was/is a big gap between the quality 90mm offernings and the garbage that people try to sell for $25 or less.
 
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Re: Intel PC Build

Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:10 am

SoM wrote:
EVGA G2 650w

So you're ordering from newegg.ca? The 650 G2 is $135 w/ shipping and the 650 P2 is $120 w/ shipping after MIR. You chose the G2, over the P2?...what's the reasoning for that? Even if you don't want the $20 MIR (free money), the P2 is worth the extra $5 IMO.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:46 am

DPete27 wrote:
SoM wrote:
EVGA G2 650w

So you're ordering from newegg.ca? The 650 G2 is $135 w/ shipping and the 650 P2 is $120 w/ shipping after MIR. You chose the G2, over the P2?...what's the reasoning for that? Even if you don't want the $20 MIR (free money), the P2 is worth the extra $5 IMO.


i just only linked to newegg as a reference, most if not all will be bought locally within walking distance.

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Re: Intel PC Build

Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:33 am

Makes sense then. The 650 G2 is still at the top of the competition. The P2 and G2 are built on the same Super Flower Leadex platform, so the difference will be small at best.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:57 pm

as for the memory, should i go with 4x8 sticks or 2x 16gb sticks ?

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Re: Intel PC Build

Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:40 pm

SoM wrote:
as for the memory, should i go with 4x8 sticks or 2x 16gb sticks ?

2x16 will have less load on the memory controller and allow for more expansion later.
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Re: Intel PC Build

Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:45 pm


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G.Skill 2x16GB 2400
M.2 950 Pro 256GB
EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
EVGA Supernova G2 750w
Acer XG270HU
HD 280pro
 
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Re: Intel PC Build

Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:42 pm

SoM wrote:
..you've made me reconsider a few options, TY


You're welcome! :D


I should probably add a bit more information about the choices..

1st: everything is cherry-picked price-wise. I may have of missed some less expensive sources, but it should be close. Partpicker Canada should be able to help with pricing if you don't want to have it shipped to somewhere in the US (Buffalo address?) and bring it back over the boarder as: "I've had this system for a while now sir".. (take old system to US for "Lan Party" and bring back new system from "Lan party".) :P

2nd: The case and cooler is just a personal choice, cases are largely about aesthetics but also concern space (cabling/cooler-space/card-space). The cooler can be done nearly as well (to a point) with the very best air coolers, and they are often similarly priced to this water-cooler. As long as you "back-off" the over-clocking enough from its "barely-posts" point, air cooling should be fine (so long as the case has sufficient air-flow and the ambient temp.s of the room are low enough).

3rd: If you turn-up the draw-distance in games (which is sometimes a default setting with generic "Ultra" performance settings in a game), higher freq. memory can make a significant difference with performance - like 10-15% improvement in FPS. Of course just because memory is "DDR 2400" (or lower) doesn't mean that the particular modules can't be raised in freq.. still, the higher rated freq. modules *should* have a better shot of at least obtaining the rated freq. of the module. ALSO, it's often not a huge difference in price between some of the higher freq. memory and the lowest freq. memory - soooo, it's even more of "cherry-pick" process.

4th: The amount of memory chosen was just based on your build-spec.. The fact is, unless you have some particular reason for extra memory (like multi-tasking with multiple applications running at the same time), you don't really benefit with more than 16 gig (for a Window's gaming system). As far as 2 modules of 16 gig as opposed to 4 of 8 gig, it leaves open the option for expanding in the future IF you decide you need more.

5th: The choice in power supply was: full modular, at least 500 watts, long warranty/good manufacturer (generally), and of course price. Rebates on power supplies are almost obligatory (to achieve a good net price). NOTE: be wary about how the rebate "works" to make sure you get your money's-worth.

6th: The SSD is MLC, not TLC, and it's a large capacity SSD with a decent rep..

7th: The video card is in stock and the lowest price (with 10 rebate) for the 1070 while also having very good overclocking.

8th: The monitor is well-suited to the video card (resolution/high refresh-rate/g-sync) while being nice and large (which literally makes a huge difference to game-play enjoyment). It's also got ultra low motion blur for games where you need enhanced clarity with fast movement so long as you have really high frame-rates (..and because the resolution isn't as high - that will be more often with the 1070).


Yeah, had some spare time Saturday Night.. :P

Partpicker Canada listings:

Basic build proposed originally with some modifications:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yg33Z8

Alternate build:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nndvf8

-with the alternate build the monitor has a much finer pixel grouping/dot pitch, (..some people find the visible "pixels" highly annoying with the 35" lower res. monitors), leading to increased clarity (particularly with text). Refresh rate's not even half as capable, nor is there G-Sync. Higher resolution, so more "desktop space". To drive that extra resolution (even if it at lower FPS), the 1080 is selected instead of the 1070. Still, less expensive overall because the monitor is substantially less expensive.

Performance with higher res. and 1080 (game settings dependent):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxvCRiz61to

Some of the Canadian pricing is just to high - particularly the cooler (..so a less expensive air cooler should be selected instead to save money). Also tried to save money elsewhere like with the memory (down to 2400). :oops:
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Re: Intel PC Build

Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:38 pm

WRT the EVGA G2 versus P2 - they're very similar, but if you look at reviews, the P2 seems to fail a lot more. Presumably something got pushed a bit too far in the name of efficiency.
 
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Re: Intel PC Build

Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:46 am

got all the parts on Friday and it's up and running without problems

final build

in win 303
asus z170-a
g.skill aegis 2x16 gb
i7-6700k
corsair h60 - got this free
950 pro 256 gb
evga gtx 1070 ftw
evga supernova g2 750w

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M.2 950 Pro 256GB
EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
EVGA Supernova G2 750w
Acer XG270HU
HD 280pro

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