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Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:44 pm

Awhile back I was surfing the forums and ended up building the following PC back in 2014.

Motherboard - ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory 

CPU - Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4 GHz LGA 1150 84W BX80646I54670K Desktop 

GPU - GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-4GD GeForce GTX 770 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready WindForce 3X 450W Video Card - upgraded to a 6 GB Nvidia 1060, love it!

SSD - Intel 530 Series 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDSC2BW120A401 (Checked the health, it's at 96%)

Mouse - Corsair M65 Vengeance USB Wired Laser Gaming Mouse

Case - Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (CC650DW-1) Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Mid Tower Case
 
Power - CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS 

CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120 mm PWM Fan - put two fans on with push/pull config

HDD - Seagate Desktop HDD ST3000DM001 3TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive - First was DOA, had to replace.

First off let me thank you all. This PC has been amazing. I game to my hearts content, it's stable and I'm glad I came across this forum. I wanted to know, is there any upgrades I could benefit from? Tax time is upon me and I'm looking to treat myself a little. Any suggestions??
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:28 pm

If you spent $90 to add 16 GiB of DDR3 memory (G.Skill F3-2400C11D-16GSR) today, it could not be re-used on a future build, but it might help with some scenarios.

Are any of the games that you're playing now challenging your existing system?


P.S.:  I missed your upgrade to the GeForce GTX 1060 6GiB.  You're not as ready for a GPU replacement as I originally thought.
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:56 pm

Actually they aren't. I'm VERY pleased with the quality of my gaming. I'm pushing high to ultra on a lot of games hitting 60/65 FPS if not higher on some things. I'm not over clocking or pushing my system. I see a game I want to play and well, it plays it. Very well in fact.


I say this with default settings of games based on my systems specifications. There are things disabled in graphics that would really push my system I think, but the games look amazing to me by default lol.
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:11 pm

Maybe a bigger SSD? I would just get another 8 GB of memory instead of 16 as well as a SSD and a new GPU later.
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:50 pm

whm1974 wrote:
Maybe a bigger SSD? I would just get another 8 GB of memory instead of 16 as well as a SSD and a new GPU later.



I'm running a 6 GB Nvidia 1060 currently. The system is a few years old already. I'd love to build a new system and give this one to my wife who is a Graphic Designer.

No dice lol. Ah well, I tried!
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:02 pm

AnotherCasualty wrote:
whm1974 wrote:
Maybe a bigger SSD? I would just get another 8 GB of memory instead of 16 as well as a SSD and a new GPU later.



I'm running a 6 GB Nvidia 1060 currently. The system is a few years old already. I'd love to build a new system and give this one to my wife who is a Graphic Designer.

If your wife is going to use it for graphic design, then you may want to increase the memory to 16 GB. Maybe even 32 GB depending on her workload.
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:08 pm

2x4 + 2x8 = 24 GiB of memory should be more than enough.
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Maybe a bigger SSD?

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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:10 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
2x4 + 2x8 = 24 GiB of memory should be more than enough.


She's running 16 GB of ram atm. Caught the memory on sale a few months ago and added 2 more sticks.
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:33 pm

Display!

With my Nvidia card, would gsync be worth it? I'm buying a Nintendo Switch, and when I'm not gaming on the PC, I'd love to hook up the consoles and play, since the TV is taken over by the wife and she uses the PS4 on it. Suggestions? Thanks!
 
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Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:01 pm

NVidia's G-Sync is expensive and proprietary.  It adds about $200 to the cost of a monitor.
FreeSync is based on the open VESA adaptive sync standard.  It adds less than $25 to the cost of a monitor.
You could literally buy a Radeon RX-480 8GiB graphics card and a FreeSync monitor for the same price or for less than the cost of a comparable G-Sync monitor alone.
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:12 pm

Ouch. Isn't Free Sync for AMD users? Do you have any suggestions monitor wise? Should I go for the standard monitor, with hmdi ports to play consoles and such?
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:15 am

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Ouch. Isn't Free Sync for AMD users? Do you have any suggestions monitor wise? Should I go for the standard monitor, with hmdi ports to play consoles and such?

What monitor(s) are you using now?
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:58 am

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What monitor(s) are you using now?

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If you are using something smaller then 24" and less then 1080P, then based on your system specs, I'd go for a bigger/better monitor (4K if possible to last a bit longer), increase ram to 16 or 24GB (depending if you are getting 4 or 8GB sticks) and then a bigger/faster SSD, in that order.


I'll toss in a few things everyone should have if they can spare the cash.

Good sound devices; good speakers (surround if possible) and good headphones (maybe wireless), and might as well make sure the display and speakers/headphones work good for the console you game with as well.

Last thing is, see if you catch a cheap projector on sale (720P or 1080P).

Those are the kind of items that really make things come alive when playing a game or watching a movie or show like GoT.
 
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:21 am

Not just a bigger SSD, but some version of this--a NVMe drive with a PCI adapter for a boot drive--
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:18 pm

The core system is fine, I wouldn't say anything sticks out as an easy candidate for upgrade - you already picked the low-hanging fruit by replacing the GTX770. Maybe more RAM and throw a cheap 480GB drive in there to load your games up faster, but that's about it and neither are going to make a huge difference to your system in day-to-day use.

If you have money burning a hole, spend it on peripherals - nice gaming monitor, keyb/mouse, better speakers/headphones or even a fancy ergonomic desk chair.
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:59 pm

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Not just a bigger SSD, but some version of this--a NVMe drive with a PCI adapter for a boot drive--

I don't think that's going to work. Z87 doesn't support the NVMe protocol unless the BIOS was specifically updated. I'm looking at the BIOS history and don't see anything. It might work as a secondary drive but I'd be skeptical of it working for a boot drive.
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:58 pm

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The core system is fine, I wouldn't say anything sticks out as an easy candidate for upgrade - you already picked the low-hanging fruit by replacing the GTX770. Maybe more RAM and throw a cheap 480GB drive in there to load your games up faster, but that's about it and neither are going to make a huge difference to your system in day-to-day use.

If you have money burning a hole, spend it on peripherals - nice gaming monitor, keyb/mouse, better speakers/headphones or even a fancy ergonomic desk chair.

A good chair is a great idea for anyone who spends a lot of time at their computer. It doesn't need to be a fancy Aeron or something either.
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:17 pm

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I don't think that's going to work. Z87 doesn't support the NVMe protocol unless the BIOS was specifically updated.


I'm not suggesting this as an upgrade for OP, but I do think it would work. Asus 990FX and A85X have no trouble booting NVMe in a PCIe slot - they are more Ivy Bridge Z77 era. I don't have an old Intel desktop system for reference.
 
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:36 pm

Considering you have already upgraded the video card to Nvidia then I would grab a G-Sync Monitor but no more than a 27 inch I would think to not push the card too hard.

You could go 4k but I'm thinking it will stress the 1060, if not now then certainly in a year or two as newer games are released.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:45 am

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I'm not suggesting this as an upgrade for OP, but I do think it would work. Asus 990FX and A85X have no trouble booting NVMe in a PCIe slot - they are more Ivy Bridge Z77 era. I don't have an old Intel desktop system for reference.

Hmm, didn't realize that. Maybe it will work fine then.
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:08 pm

derFunkenstein wrote:
MOSFET wrote:
I'm not suggesting this as an upgrade for OP, but I do think it would work. Asus 990FX and A85X have no trouble booting NVMe in a PCIe slot - they are more Ivy Bridge Z77 era. I don't have an old Intel desktop system for reference.

Hmm, didn't realize that. Maybe it will work fine then.

Oh, that's interesting. I have an Asus 990FX...
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Re: Hey guys!! Need a bit of help!

Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:04 pm

The only things that jump out at me are RAM and SSD. Now is a good time to load up on DDR3 since it'll become more expensive as it transitions to a legacy product. Commodity SSDs are cheap and cheerful, and a big one will speed up all your stuff. If you have the cash for something nicer, I'm a fan of Sandisk's Extreme Pro series. Adorama usually has the best prices on this particular item.

Your display wasn't mentioned anywhere, but if you decide you want moar grafixes than a GTX 1060 can provide the first thing to do is get something with higher than 1920x1080 display resolution, and then start thinking about a new GPU.

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A good chair is a great idea for anyone who spends a lot of time at their computer. It doesn't need to be a fancy Aeron or something either.

Aeron user here, they really are worth the price tag. I wouldn't have believed it from just looking at them, but I had one at my first job for several years and the proof is in the usage.

Protip: if you live in a decent size city you should have at least one used office furniture store that carries HM products, they'll usually have some in decent shape for $350 or so and you can try before you buy. Aerons are built like tanks--the one at my first job was over ten years old and still felt fantastic--just be sure you get the sizing right. These guys sometimes also have specials on new products, if they have a demo unit or a large customer deal fell through. When I was chair shopping I ran across several new-in-bag Steelcase Gestures for half off.

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