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derFunkenstein wrote:Unless you foresee a reason that you'd go multi-GPU in the future, I'd get a decently-built B350 chipset instead of a $300 motherboard.
OptimumSlinky wrote:Seasonic Flagship Prime Titanium 750W
OptimumSlinky wrote:After seven years of loyal service, it's time for old Bloomfield (i7-930 @ 2.8GHz) to go to the great motherboard in the sky. I'm really fired up by Ryzen's arrival and bang for buck factor, so I'm leaning towards either a Ryzen 7 1700X or Ryzen 5 1600X.
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Proposed Upgrades
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600X
Motherboard: MSI X370 XPower Gaming Titanium
RAM: 16GB G.Skill TridentZ @ 3200MHz (14-14-14-34)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM
Power Supply: Seasonic Flagship Prime Titanium 750W
Subtotal: $999.86
Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the proposed upgrades; I simply wonder if it's worth spending an extra $150 up front and jumping up to the Ryzen 1700X for the extra core and threads.
southrncomfortjm wrote:Or 550W. Or 450W...600 watt gold or titanium should be just fine.
OptimumSlinky wrote:The main thing about going for the super-premium X370 board is longevity and flexibility; it's a lot easier to upgrade a CPU, GPU, SSD than it is to replace the motherboard.
ludi wrote:OptimumSlinky wrote:The main thing about going for the super-premium X370 board is longevity and flexibility; it's a lot easier to upgrade a CPU, GPU, SSD than it is to replace the motherboard.
Future-proofing a motherboard has been a fool's errand for at least ten years now. If the socket doesn't get changed in the next major product cycle, the power or firmware requirements might, or some new interconnect standard gets introduced. Buy enough CPU now and a quality (but not necessarily full bells-n-whistles) board, and odds are good you'll run them together to EOL. Case in point: your current system
flip-mode wrote:That said, the guy explained his preferences and mentioned that he's not too concerned about the budget. No need to beat the horse too hard.
flip-mode wrote:he's not too concerned about the budget. No need to beat the horse too hard.
DPete27 wrote:flip-mode wrote:he's not too concerned about the budget. No need to beat the horse too hard.
And yet the OP clearly has a budget in mind, otherwise there'd be a 1800X on that list and not a 1600X.
OptimumSlinky wrote:DPete27 wrote:flip-mode wrote:he's not too concerned about the budget. No need to beat the horse too hard.
And yet the OP clearly has a budget in mind, otherwise there'd be a 1800X on that list and not a 1600X.
It's not so much that I have a budget in mind per se, but rather I always want to maximize the bang for my buck. I'm perfectly willing to spend $500 for the 1800X, but the 1600X at $250 seems to have almost identical gaming performance, so what's the point in literally spending double for little net gain? I'm willing to spend extra for the 3200MHz RAM because Ryzen as an architecture seems to get a noticeable performance boost from faster RAM.
I'll admit I can be quirky and arbitrary about some of my priorities (I'd rather have an X370 versus the B350 because I like the idea of having the higher tier, enthusiast platform versus the more "mainstream"), but for the most part, I'm think I'm fairly logical.
Vhalidictes wrote:What's the advantage of the X370 if you don't plan on multiple video cards? Other than the PCIe lanes I'm wondering what the draw is...
ChicagoDave wrote:Vhalidictes wrote:What's the advantage of the X370 if you don't plan on multiple video cards? Other than the PCIe lanes I'm wondering what the draw is...
At least for me, the extra PCIe lanes is exactly why I would go with an X370 over the B series. Extra lanes = extra NVME drives down the line. I'm already at the point where I'll never buy another SATA SSD, simply because they're outclassed. Will I notice the difference? Maybe not, but why limit yourself to SATA3 when you can use PCIe, especially in another year or two when we start getting huge 1tb-2tb drives with x8 lanes. NVMe is going to be nipping at the heels of RAM, just like Optane now seems too little, too late with the latest Samsung 960 series.
OptimumSlinky wrote:
EDIT: Damn, RX 480 for $190... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814125911#close
ludi wrote:That's why I didn't say "beat a dead horse".*looks around* *sees lightly-beaten horse galloping majestically across the plains*
No need to talk about fight club here. One's got nothing to do with the other. This isn't an MSI X370 Grab Em By The PCI-E motherboard we're talking about (yes, I did just laugh at my own joke). Just standard hardware discussion.*suggests flip-mode spend less time in R&P*
OptimumSlinky wrote:EDIT: Damn, RX 480 for $190... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 5911#close