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jacky753
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Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:07 pm

Hi guys! So Black Friday is near, and I'm thinking of building a new gaming computer.

I'll be using some of my older computer parts such as

- 2x GPU EVGA GTX 970 for SLi purposes
- Corsair AXi860i PSU
- 1 Samsung 830 SSD
- 1 WD Velociraptor 1TB HDD
- 1 WD Caviar Green 3TB HDD

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I'm aiming to buy a i7-6850K (LGA2011v3) CPU, but I'm not sure if this is still viable, since I feel like i7-7700K is a better way to go.

Whatever else, I'm open to suggestions, since I'm not sure how.

such as:

- Motherboards
- Full-Tower Case
- RAMs
- CPU Cooler
 
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:56 pm

I'd wait this year.

-memory is at an all time high.

CPU's (Intel) will likely experience a "tick" and "tock" in the not distant future (..maybe 9 months at the latest?) Nvidia cards - probably 4 months. Cooler? -wait until you are purchasing your board and CPU.

So maybe a case? :roll:


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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:03 pm

Those are pretty nice existing parts. Since you asked, I don't find LGA2011 and successors to be a good value, for home computing and gaming. i7-7700K all the way, especially since Z270 (and even Z170) boards are usually being discounted. I'm 11 months into using an i5-7600K daily, and I love it. I reused a Corsair H80i for cooling the 7600K. Since the 7700K doesn't come with a cooler, you'll want at least a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo. Moving up to a Noctua, or a larger 240mm CLC would probably unlock more overclocking headroom, not that there's anything wrong with the stock frequencies on that chip. RAM - well, DDR4-2400 will suffice. Above that you're hitting diminishing returns, unless the extra speed is essentially free. I would look for 2800-3200 as the sweet spot, but if you see great prices on 2400 or 2666, you're not leaving much on the table, really. Case is so subjective, and can last such a long time. I'm still using a white Corsair Graphite 600T from 2011, although it's roomier than ever in there since I opted for a mATX Asus ROG Strix Z270G mobo.
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:08 pm

CScottG wrote:
I'm such a buzz-kill. :oops:


You must have been thinking of the "talk me out of it" thread. :P

If this were me, I'd sell one of the 970s and put the money towards the remaining components.
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:17 pm

CScottG wrote:
I'd wait this year.

I never really wait for anything, because there's always another thing to wait for.
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:48 pm

The only things I plan to shop for on Black Friday are last minute things for the family Thanksgiving dinner (we're doing it on Saturday this year).
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:53 pm

Thank you guys for the replies!

I am thinking of getting:

- Motherboard: Asus Prime Z270-A
- Case: Corsair Obsidian 750D Air Flow Edition Full Tower case
- Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Liquid Cool
- RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR 2400

what do you guys think?
 
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:39 pm

Looks like a nice bundle.

Wow! 7700K at Newegg for 290usd
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:50 am

Notice that black friday doesn't necessarily mean good prices. The shops do what they can to make it look like they have good deals but I find that it is quite often a hoax as they often just bump up the prices some weeks in advance to make it seem like they reduced the price for this day. If you pay attention, there's deals to be had all year round.

Of course if you think it is time to upgrade your PC or build a new one then that is fine, but don't let 'black friday' push you into buying something that you might not have bought otherwise.. :-)
 
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:34 pm

Do you have a Microcenter or Fry's local to you? You could skip the doorbuster rush, show up afterwards when it's sane again and probably score some decent processor/motherboard combos. Microcenter somehow kept a lid on its ads this year which makes me curious

To give you an idea of how steep they discount some processors Fry's Electronics is selling the 7920X for $888, which is a $312 discount over Newegg. Probably more useful to you they have the 7640X for $169, $81 cheaper than Newegg, thought keep in mind that requires a X299. Microcenter will have some similar processor offers, they always throw in some discount on the mainstream flagship chip.
 
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:32 pm

If I was you, I'd go with Coffee Lake for the extra cores. You had initially mentioned a 6850K...think of an 8700K as getting a 50+ percent off discount. The HEDT platform's other advantages shouldn't be a big deal for the typical gaming machine.
 
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:18 pm

demolition wrote:
Notice that black friday doesn't necessarily mean good prices. The shops do what they can to make it look like they have good deals but I find that it is quite often a hoax as they often just bump up the prices some weeks in advance to make it seem like they reduced the price for this day. If you pay attention, there's deals to be had all year round.

Of course if you think it is time to upgrade your PC or build a new one then that is fine, but don't let 'black friday' push you into buying something that you might not have bought otherwise.. :-)


Yeah the smart thing is not to follow the crowd. The best and painless way to get deals is to subscribe to a price checker site and have it autonotify you when it hits the lowest historic price.
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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:34 pm

NovusBogus wrote:
If I was you, I'd go with Coffee Lake for the extra cores. You had initially mentioned a 6850K...think of an 8700K as getting a 50+ percent off discount. The HEDT platform's other advantages shouldn't be a big deal for the typical gaming machine.


6850's regularly go for 350-370.

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Re: Black Friday Approaches!

Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:51 pm

NovusBogus wrote:
If I was you, I'd go with Coffee Lake for the extra cores. You had initially mentioned a 6850K...think of an 8700K as getting a 50+ percent off discount. The HEDT platform's other advantages shouldn't be a big deal for the typical gaming machine.


Agreed. If the primary use case is gaming, then I'm not sure getting a 6850k is a good idea even if it's now more budget friendly. They'd both do the job, but an 8700k seems like a better choice for a gaming machine. If I was building a new machine now I'd choose between that and a 7700k, probably based on budget. If I could swing it, then I'd get the 8700k.
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