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Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:18 am

Check this over, happy to take recommendations. Hopefully you can see what I'm going for. This is happening! Replacing a Q9450 system built in 2008. I'm pushing a Acer Predator 27" 2560x1440 G-Sync.

Intel 8700k
ASUS ROG Z370-E
Corsair C16 2x16GB 3200MHz
EVGA SuperNOVA 850 80+
Samsung EVO 860 1TB (SATA or M.2)
Corsair Hydro H150i
Corsair 500d
Corsair Air Series SP 120 Fans x 3
(Reusing) Nvidia 1070TI
(Reuising) 2TB Mechanical, 500GB Samsung SSD.


I was aiming for a 700-750, the SuperNOVA gets good reviews, and it was only $5 difference between models. On the fence about the cooling solution; I was originally looking at Noctua D15 dual fans, but afraid of clearance issues with the mid-sized case. The case has been the hardest part to find something I liked but found functional. The 570X glass enclosure looked really nice, but I like the 3.1 Type C connection on this one.

Need to nab a new keyboard and speakers which aren't bottom of the barrel. Other than that....

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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:10 am

Looking at Gigabyte Z370 Maybe has a better MB. Heard a lot of mixed things about ASUS.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:27 am

EVGA makes some of the best-reviewed (and in my experience, plain best) power supplies around. So that's a great choice. Given what it should draw underload, you'll never totally stress it out and probably only hit around 30% peak usage, which isn't the peak efficiency, but whatever. Get EVGA 80+ Gold in whatever size you want and just enjoy it. :)

The spec on the 500D says you have 170mm of clearance. Noctua says the D15 will stand 165mm tall. That's awfully tight that if anything is not just so, you might not get the lid back on. But at the same time, it SHOULD fit. But it's shorter than other coolers with 140-mm fans, like the Phantecs TC14PE. So maybe you're fine.

I like Gigabyte boards, too, but I have nothing against Asus. It just feels like you get more for your money out of Gigabyte. Their firmware interface and fan controls are excellent, too.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:54 am

I have the Asus mobo you're looking at -- no major complaints, but it's a little short on USB ports for my usage.

If you're planning to OC, I haven't been able to get over 4.9 GHz at 2667 for memory, but that may be my CPU rather than the mobo.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:17 am

Supposedly a month and a half for intel 9 series chips, if you are interested in their 8 core.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:19 am

derFunkenstein wrote:
EVGA makes some of the best-reviewed (and in my experience, plain best) power supplies around. So that's a great choice. Given what it should draw underload, you'll never totally stress it out and probably only hit around 30% peak usage, which isn't the peak efficiency, but whatever. Get EVGA 80+ Gold in whatever size you want and just enjoy it. :)

The spec on the 500D says you have 170mm of clearance. Noctua says the D15 will stand 165mm tall. That's awfully tight that if anything is not just so, you might not get the lid back on. But at the same time, it SHOULD fit. But it's shorter than other coolers with 140-mm fans, like the Phantecs TC14PE. So maybe you're fine.

I like Gigabyte boards, too, but I have nothing against Asus. It just feels like you get more for your money out of Gigabyte. Their firmware interface and fan controls are excellent, too.


Appreciate the response. I have a lot of EVGA gear in my current build, and I've enjoyed their customer support. I think half the problems I have is the EVGA MB, the other, age.

Good to hear about Gigabyte. As a benefit, if I got a Gaming 5, it would be about $40-50 cheaper than the ASUS.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:23 am

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Supposedly a month and a half for intel 9 series chips, if you are interested in their 8 core.


I didn't realize these were October, I thought we were a good 6 months+ from these.

What's the likelihood there will be chips enough to ship to customers in October? My box is starting to get really rough, but I'm willing to wait for 2 more cores and 4 more threads. Are these compatible with current 8th gen motherboards?
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:27 am

The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018. They will be thermal limited at a full load unless you got exceptional cooling at the helm. Memory bandwidth will be an issue as well like the Ryzen 7 chips so you'll probably need fast DDR4 DIMMs to drive 8-core Coffee Lake chips.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:50 am

Krogoth wrote:
The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018. They will be thermal limited at a full load unless you got exceptional cooling at the helm. Memory bandwidth will be an issue as well like the Ryzen 7 chips so you'll probably need fast DDR4 DIMMs to drive 8-core Coffee Lake chips.


Just looking into this more. Seems the Hyperthreading only for the i9. That's a 9900k. I was/am expecting a $999 price tag, plus inflation/availability. This site suggestions a $500~ price tag: https://www.pcmag.com/news/363365/repor ... rices-leak

Little more then I wanted to spend on a chip right now, plus questionable availability.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:02 am

dashbarron wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018. They will be thermal limited at a full load unless you got exceptional cooling at the helm. Memory bandwidth will be an issue as well like the Ryzen 7 chips so you'll probably need fast DDR4 DIMMs to drive 8-core Coffee Lake chips.


Just looking into this more. Seems the Hyperthreading only for the i9. That's a 9900k. I was/am expecting a $999 price tag, plus inflation/availability. This site suggestions a $500~ price tag: https://www.pcmag.com/news/363365/repor ... rices-leak

Little more then I wanted to spend on a chip right now, plus questionable availability.

IMO both of these are wrong assumptions. Of course this is just my personal opinion/guess, but I'd say the 9900K will be 450-550 USD on release, maybe going for a little above MSRP for a bit, but you'll be able to get one in 2018.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:03 am

Might be worth holding off until the 9 series launches then seeing if you can pick up an 8700K on sale, though.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:10 am

K-L-Waster wrote:
Might be worth holding off until the 9 series launches then seeing if you can pick up an 8700K on sale, though.

Yup, even this is worth the wait IMO.

As far as the rest of the build, I personally prefer Noctua fans (by a lot). Maybe worth a look, though they're pretty expensive. The 860 EVO 1TB is on sale (at least it was yesterday when I posted a thread about it), you should get it. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=121283
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:30 am

DancinJack wrote:
dashbarron wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018. They will be thermal limited at a full load unless you got exceptional cooling at the helm. Memory bandwidth will be an issue as well like the Ryzen 7 chips so you'll probably need fast DDR4 DIMMs to drive 8-core Coffee Lake chips.


Just looking into this more. Seems the Hyperthreading only for the i9. That's a 9900k. I was/am expecting a $999 price tag, plus inflation/availability. This site suggestions a $500~ price tag: https://www.pcmag.com/news/363365/repor ... rices-leak

Little more then I wanted to spend on a chip right now, plus questionable availability.

IMO both of these are wrong assumptions. Of course this is just my personal opinion/guess, but I'd say the 9900K will be 450-550 USD on release, maybe going for a little above MSRP for a bit, but you'll be able to get one in 2018.


I highly doubt that unless you happen to one of the lucky ones who got the first batch of units before the rest get eaten up by scalpers/OEMs.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:39 am

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I highly doubt that unless you happen to one of the lucky ones who got the first batch of units before the rest get eaten up by scalpers/OEMs.

Agree to disagree! :)

Nah, really I was just disagreeing with the "unobtanium" part of your comment. We're in agreement for the rest. I just think this particular CPU is a little dififerent for Intel. A proven, known manufacturing process. A known CPU arch. Known motherboards and chipsets. It's just slightly different than some of the recent releases they've had. Also, they really want to make that holiday money.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:40 pm

I'm seeing an 8700k for $360. What sort of cost drop would happen October 1 if the I9 series drops?

Pricing notwithstanding, I'd hate to wait until October just to scratch around until November-December to find one available.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:45 pm

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I'm seeing an 8700k for $360. What sort of cost drop would happen October 1 if the I9 series drops?

Pricing notwithstanding, I'd hate to wait until October just to scratch around until November-December to find one available.

Don't really know about price, but riddle me this Barron, can you survive until October/November to get an 8700k for very likely cheaper than it is today (even if you have to live with a little disappointment that you can't get a 9900k for what you want)?

BTW where do you live? Does $320, and very likely below $300 after the i9 launches, change your mind?
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:48 pm

Krogoth wrote:
The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018.


Krogoth wrote:
I highly doubt that unless you happen to one of the lucky ones who got the first batch of units before the rest get eaten up by scalpers/OEMs.


I bought a i7-8700k Thanksgiving week.

From newegg.

It was in my shopping cart for like a week or something before I pulled the trigger.

Can you please refrain from just making stuff up?

EDIT:

December 10, 2017:

viewtopic.php?p=1371050#p1371050

December 24, 2017:

viewtopic.php?p=1372040#p1372040

There are at least a dozen people talking about their 8700ks on this forum in late 2017, and hardly any mention by anyone about unavailability.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:42 pm

Broadwell was the last time a CPU was hard to get ahold of, IIRC. The i7-5775C and i5-5675C were hard to get, but they were (speculation incoming) mostly built because Apple wanted them so they could go into an iMac with integrated graphics.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:04 pm

Glorious wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018.


Krogoth wrote:
I highly doubt that unless you happen to one of the lucky ones who got the first batch of units before the rest get eaten up by scalpers/OEMs.


I bought a i7-8700k Thanksgiving week.

From newegg.

It was in my shopping cart for like a week or something before I pulled the trigger.

Can you please refrain from just making stuff up?

EDIT:

December 10, 2017:

viewtopic.php?p=1371050#p1371050

December 24, 2017:

viewtopic.php?p=1372040#p1372040

There are at least a dozen people talking about their 8700ks on this forum in late 2017, and hardly any mention by anyone about unavailability.


Try December, you see that Coffee Lake SKUs had some temporarily supply issues for some etailers (Not Newegg/Amazon). They went out of stock for a few days then restock came up and they were sold out within hours. Prices had jump considerably above MSRP as well. It started to clear up by the time January-Febuary 2018 rolled around and prices started to stabilize closer to MSRP as well.

I have seen and read about it elsewhere. Just because you got your hands on one around launch doesn't mean there weren't supply issues.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:11 pm

Posted on Dec 12.

Postby Glorious » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:41 am
I just got a i7-8700k from newegg like 2 weeks ago. It's ~400 USD on newegg.com right now:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6819117827

"Two weeks" before Dec 12 is....Nov 28. A whole 5 days after Thanksgiving. Yowza. I think Glorious takes issue with the fact that you say CPUs won't be able to be purchased ("unobtanium") until a full 1 - 2 quarters after their release. Which clearly isn't true from the Coffee Lake launch, which you said it was for some reason.

Postby The Egg » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:50 pm
Microcenter recently gave the i7 8700k and i5 8600k another small price cut, down to $379 and $229.

Those prices are below MSRP!!! C'mon Kroggy
edit: OK they're not **both** lower than MSRP. It looks like 8700k was 359 MSRP while the 8600K was 257 MSRP.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:26 pm

DancinJack wrote:
Posted on Dec 12.

Postby Glorious » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:41 am
I just got a i7-8700k from newegg like 2 weeks ago. It's ~400 USD on newegg.com right now:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6819117827

"Two weeks" before Dec 12 is....Nov 28. A whole 5 days after Thanksgiving. Yowza. I think Glorious takes issue with the fact that you say CPUs won't be able to be purchased ("unobtanium") until a full 1 - 2 quarters after their release. Which clearly isn't true from the Coffee Lake launch, which you said it was for some reason.

Postby The Egg » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:50 pm
Microcenter recently gave the i7 8700k and i5 8600k another small price cut, down to $379 and $229.

Those prices are below MSRP!!! C'mon Kroggy
edit: OK they're not **both** lower than MSRP. It looks like 8700k was 359 MSRP while the 8600K was 257 MSRP.


It is a different story elsewhere especially if you weren't in USA. The funny part is that 8400 was the SKU suffered the most from the short-term supply issues. The Coffee Lake supply issues was completed overshadowed by the GPU mining craze and memory prices spiking at time. It started to clear up into the new year so nobody made a huge fuss over it. It is a far cry from Broadwell supply issues back in 2015.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:32 pm

Krogoth wrote:
Try December


I not only cited contemporary posts from that exact month, I also labeled the cites with the specific day.

I mean, I'm kind of incredulous... "Try December".... Did you even my post? The one you quoted?

Did you not see the word December blatantly in there, twice?

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You made this up. It isn't true. I don't know why you do this, but can you please stop?

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They went out of stock for a few days then restock came up and they were sold out within hours. Prices had jump considerably above MSRP as well. It started to clear up by the time January-Febuary 2018 rolled around and prices started to stabilize closer to MSRP as well.


You are inventing this narrative wholesale. Was the 8700k mildly over MSRP(~10-15% markup) after launch? Yes, I mean, is that uncommon?

Was it unavailable? No. It was widely available. You weren't "lucky" if you got one, at least a dozen people here did before 2017. EDIT 2018

Again, I have contemporary posts about the availability. You aren't just hand-waving, you are flagrantly ignoring them because you can't admit that maybe your recollection was ...mistaken?

Krogoth wrote:
I have seen and read about it elsewhere. Just because you got your hands on one around launch doesn't mean there weren't supply issues.


As I said, I had it in my shopping cart for at least a week before I pulled the trigger.

I never had any concern that I wouldn't be able to get one.

Don't take my word for it, two weeks later I noted that they were available on newegg. That isn't "mumble mumble ...elsewhere". That's proof.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:35 pm

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It is a different story elsewhere especially if you weren't in USA.


You're not in the USA?

I'm in the USA.

DancinJack is in Kansas, which in the USA.

Who isn't in the USA?

Why are you doing this?
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:21 pm

Mm popcorn is great, keep it up guys!

@DancinJack

It's about at the end of life. As in, things don't work, constant freezes, always topped out CPU/memory, and things that I don't think reformatting is going to fix anymore. Wish I had a crystal ball to see what's going to happen with the 9900k in terms of availability. I remember looking at the 8700k last year all through November and Black Friday and holding off.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:29 pm

Glorious wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
It is a different story elsewhere especially if you weren't in USA.


You're not in the USA?

I'm in the USA.

DancinJack is in Kansas, which in the USA.

Who isn't in the USA?

Why are you doing this?


Why are you having a stink over a past short-term supply issue that is no longer in effect? I simply brought it up because it is quite possible we will experience a repeat of this with upcoming eight-core Coffee Lake chips. The USA isn't the only market and there are readers/posters here that are from elsewhere.

Besides, I'm not making any of this up. I was shopping around for parts for somebody else during that time period. I just happened to noticed that Coffee Lake SKUs were out of stock for days at a time and sold out frequently (mainly the 8400). It isn't really that much of a shock though since Bloomfield-Ivy Bridge users were waiting years for a mainstream six-core SKU to come around. There was massive demand for Coffee Lake SKUs during 2017 Holiday season. Intel rushed Coffee Lake to the market to prevent desktop marketshare hemorrhaging from Ryzen line-up so they didn't have time for their sales channel to build up reserves. The unfortunate consequence of this that there were some short-term supply issues that did affect some etailers/retailers which didn't alleviate until the new year. That's why prices for Coffee Lake SKUs spiked well above MSRP during this short period. It is so short-term and people were more focused on prices and supply issues on whole the GPU mining craze so it didn't ring much of bell unless you were paying close attention.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:11 pm

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id- ... -sold.html
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/10/ ... tedly.aspx


@Krogoth: You got the date wrong by a month or two. It was October / November when supply was tight. Your overall point, which is that new CPUs can have low-supply / out-of-stock issues, is solid. Especially with the i7-8700k stuff going on last year in October/November. It seems like the supply issues were resolved by December or so.

Its kind of a strange hill to defend. But hey, that seems to be the kind of person your debate partner is. But if your debate partner simply researched the issue using his favorite search engine, maybe he'd know about the supply issues a month or two earlier than that.

If this is too abstract, I have a link which should help you do what you need to do: http://lmgtfy.com/?s=d&q=sold+out+i7+8700k . Plenty of search results documenting this low-supply issue last year. And anyone who simply remembers last year should know about it, frankly.

@dashbarron: Yeah, just be aware of the supply issues with regards to launch times. Just because a CPU is launched doesn't necessarily mean that its available. Regardless, the last-gen stuff almost always becomes cheaper after the official launch date, so I think it makes sense to wait a month, as long as you are able.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

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dragontamer5788 wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3537482/8700k-sold.html
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/10/ ... tedly.aspx


@Krogoth: You got the date wrong by a month or two. It was October / November when supply was tight. Your overall point, which is that new CPUs can have low-supply / out-of-stock issues, is solid. Especially with the i7-8700k stuff going on last year in October/November. It seems like the supply issues were resolved by December or so.

Its kind of a strange hill to defend. But hey, that seems to be the kind of person your debate partner is. But if your debate partner simply researched the issue using his favorite search engine, maybe he'd know about the supply issues a month or two earlier than that.

If this is too abstract, I have a link which should help you do what you need to do: http://lmgtfy.com/?s=d&q=sold+out+i7+8700k . Plenty of search results documenting this low-supply issue last year. And anyone who simply remembers last year should know about it, frankly.

@dashbarron: Yeah, just be aware of the supply issues with regards to launch times. Just because a CPU is launched doesn't necessarily mean that its available. Regardless, the last-gen stuff almost always becomes cheaper after the official launch date, so I think it makes sense to wait a month, as long as you are able.


It did persist throughout December as well and only begin to taper off when the new year started to roll in. 8400s were kinda hard to get if you wanted one.
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:15 pm

Can you guys give it a rest and let this poor upgrading soul have his upgrade thread?
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:11 pm

Krogoth wrote:
Why are you having a stink over a past short-term supply issue that is no longer in effect?


Because you are saying that these things were unavailable for SIX MONTHS.

They weren't. You just made that up.

Stop doing that.

dragontamer5788 wrote:
@Krogoth: You got the date wrong by a month or two. It was October / November when supply was tight.


Krogoth said, and I quote:

Krogoth wrote:
The 8-core Coffee Lake-S chips are going be nearly unobtainum until Q1-Q2 2019 given how hard was to find 8400, 8600K, 8700K until Q2 2018.


That's not a "month or two", that's a HALF A YEAR.

dragontamer5788 wrote:
Its kind of a strange hill to defend. But hey, that seems to be the kind of person your debate partner is. But if your debate partner simply researched the issue using his favorite search engine, maybe he'd know about the supply issues a month or two earlier than that.


Oh, I see.

You're sore that I repeatedly corrected you in another thread, and it smarts so bad that you come in here and start something with me without even bothering to read what *you* decided to defend!

The fact that a new generation of CPU, for period of WEEKS after a launch, wasn't COMPLETELY available, is totally unremarkable and not remotely what's at issue.

But you wouldn't know that, because you didn't even read the Krogoth quote that I was disputing. Nope. Time to get back at Glorious! Can't read, but plenty of time to snark about google.

dragontamer5788 wrote:
Plenty of search results documenting this low-supply issue last year. And anyone who simply remembers last year should know about it, frankly.


I do remember last year.

That's why I knew what Krogoth said was wrong.

And I didn't have to remember, I have contemporary posts.
 
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Re: Years in the making, new I7 Build

Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:56 pm

dashbarron wrote:
$360 Intel Core i7-8700k
This is currently the best choice for gaming performance, but the value of a $230 Ryzen 5 2600X and $85¼ B450 motherboard is certainly appealing.
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If you're shopping for 16 GiB DIMMs, PC4-25600 looks like a reasonable choice. $305 2x16 GiB G.Skill Sniper X DDR4-3200 16-18-18-38. The high price of RAM caused me to downgrade from 2x16 GiB to 2x8 GiB when I built my current gaming PC at the start of the year.
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