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just brew it! wrote:Thanks!
FWIW, it looks like the Asus PRIME X470-PRO has ECC support, and is close to my target price range.
mikewinddale wrote:just brew it! wrote:Thanks!
FWIW, it looks like the Asus PRIME X470-PRO has ECC support, and is close to my target price range.
Hmm, how did I miss that? Let me check the manufacturer's specifications: "ECC Memory (ECC mode) support varies by CPU."
. . . hmm, that's kind of vague, but I guess that means it supports ECC? Personally, I'd prefer an explicit statement that ECC is supported, but I guess you're right. Thanks.
M3rcy wrote:What about using StoreMI? I'm looking at linking a 1TB NVMe SSD + 5TB drive together and then having an additional 6TB drive to back that up.
just brew it! wrote:M3rcy wrote:What about using StoreMI? I'm looking at linking a 1TB NVMe SSD + 5TB drive together and then having an additional 6TB drive to back that up.
In general I am not a fan of proprietary storage solutions which are tied to a specific motherboard. What happens if the motherboard dies? Also a non-starter for me since this system will need to be capable of running Linux.
Might be a reasonable option for some people though.
M3rcy wrote:just brew it! wrote:M3rcy wrote:What about using StoreMI? I'm looking at linking a 1TB NVMe SSD + 5TB drive together and then having an additional 6TB drive to back that up.
In general I am not a fan of proprietary storage solutions which are tied to a specific motherboard. What happens if the motherboard dies? Also a non-starter for me since this system will need to be capable of running Linux.
Might be a reasonable option for some people though.
Having a full backup (which I would have either way) on the 6TB drive makes me not worry too much about the first concern. But, yeah, if you need Linux, a proprietary Windows-only, tiered storage solution wouldn't be the way to go.
anotherengineer wrote:Just put together a rig with an MSI B450 Tomahawk, no idea if it has ECC support, but one nice thing it did have was secure erase built into the bios. I actually had to use it and worked out good. (ssd was mbr and w10 wouldn't install, it wanted GPT)
LocalCitizen wrote:StoreMI only uses up to 128GB of SSD
just brew it! wrote:M3rcy wrote:just brew it! wrote:In general I am not a fan of proprietary storage solutions which are tied to a specific motherboard. What happens if the motherboard dies? Also a non-starter for me since this system will need to be capable of running Linux.
Might be a reasonable option for some people though.
Having a full backup (which I would have either way) on the 6TB drive makes me not worry too much about the first concern. But, yeah, if you need Linux, a proprietary Windows-only, tiered storage solution wouldn't be the way to go.
I'm also somewhat distrustful of niche proprietary storage solutions like that in general; since they don't get pounded on by millions of users daily, they are more likely to have latent bugs which could result in data corruption. Sure, backups can protect you from that too; but only if you notice the corruption when it occurs, and don't overwrite your last good backup with bad data. (You can protect against the overwrite issue by rotating your backups, but with only a single 6TB backup drive it doesn't sound like you're planning to do that.)
M3rcy wrote:I'll have sequential backups going. I doubt I'll be anywhere close to filling those drives up for quite a while, so I'll have room for a number of backups.
Also, Enmotus have scaled Fuzedrive down from their enterprise vSSD software. It's got a pedigree.
just brew it! wrote:Really feelin' the itch to do a build here. Have been holding off on a Ryzen build for far too long - partly due to the fact that I don't really need an upgrade (it's just a "nice to have"), and partly due to the cost of DDR4.
The Ryzen 2700X looks like a pretty darned sweet upgrade from the FX-8350 I'm still running though...
LocalCitizen wrote:The Ryzen 3000 Apu's are Ryzen+ on 12nm.
The Ryzen 2000 Apu's are Ryzen on 14nm
Amd said that Epyc (Rome) will be the first 7nm Ryzen 2, so Ryzen 3000 CPU will only be announced some time after that.
rumour is CES will see Ryzen 3000 Apu, not CPU
cegras wrote:If you want to agonize over numbers without any testing, you can look up the X470 VRM list to see if you're really buying a proper VRM for your Ryzen.
If you want 144 Hz gaming, I would say that is still intel's territory.
ptsant wrote:Asus has typically offered ECC support since the Bulldozer days, but do check.
ptsant wrote:I have seen the 2700X go for very cheap ($329 here, probably sub-$300 in the USA).
ptsant wrote:Having upgraded from the 8350 to the 1700X I can tell you that the difference in performance is easily perceptible and definitely worth it for most workloads. In fact, for a lot of things you may become GPU or SSD-limited.
Village wrote:You don't mention (or I'm blind) of your intent to overclock or let it do its own thing.
Village wrote:My take on what i was researching is X470 boards tend to be coupled with better VRMs if you are intending to overclock and need extra PCIe lanes for another graphics card/multiple storage/add on cards. Otherwise B450 boards are good enough, with the consensus being MSI boards having an edge with VRMs. But they lack some voltage control option that might impact on fine tuning an overclock.
ptsant wrote:LocalCitizen wrote:The Ryzen 3000 Apu's are Ryzen+ on 12nm.
The Ryzen 2000 Apu's are Ryzen on 14nm
Amd said that Epyc (Rome) will be the first 7nm Ryzen 2, so Ryzen 3000 CPU will only be announced some time after that.
rumour is CES will see Ryzen 3000 Apu, not CPU
Yes, this is exactly what I was trying to explain above. The naming is unfortunately a bit confusing. So no 7nm Zen 2 Ryzen coming soon in my opinion.