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Low cost build for parents - memory ?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:13 pm

Need to replace a 10 year old build.
No gaming (except for when grand-kids visit and they do light gaming online).
This is what I've settled on.

For the RAM I'd prefer to get G.Skill due to local availability and past good experience but their RAM configurator for this board only lists 16GB+ Why would that be ? https://www.gskill.com/en/configurator? ... model=3468

Ryzen 3 2200G
Gigabyte B450M DS3H rev 1.0
8GB (2 x 4GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400Mhz (PC4 19200) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R
Toshiba OCZ TR200 240GB SSD (for OS and Apps)
1TB Sata III HDD (already got)
Seasonic S12II 520W PSU (already got)
W10 x64 (already got)
Case (reusing existing)

Appreciate any comments - I know it's not an exciting build !
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Re: Low cost build for parents - memory ?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:16 pm

Turn on Memtest86, set it to test 200x, and then come back in 2 or 3 days. If its going without any errors, give to the grandparents. Otherwise, buy new RAM (return the faulty RAM to the retailer, that's how you get good service). Each individual test can take an hour or two, so 200 end-to-end tests will basically just have the thing spinning forever. But 2 or 3 days worth of RAM tests is probably all you need.

Those memory-configuration stuff is a crapshot anyway. Rely upon the tired-and-true methodology of actually performing QA work yourself. Its a free download and pretty simple to use: https://www.memtest86.com/
 
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Re: Low cost build for parents - memory ?

Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:17 am

BeachNut wrote:
$85 AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
$77 Gigabyte B450M DS3H rev 1.0
For $8 less, the $69 Gigabyte B450 Aorus M looks like a better choice. It has a better arrangement of the PCIe slots, if nothing else.

BeachNut wrote:
$43 2x4 GiB PC4-19200 Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R (DDR4-2400, 16-16-16-39)
For the RAM I'd prefer to get G.Skill due to local availability and past good experience but their RAM configurator for this board only lists 16GB+ Why would that be?
It's probably because they have assumed that almost no-one would build a new system and not get at least 16 GiB.

APUs using integrated graphics really like memory bandwidth (up to DDR4-3200 = PC4-25600). DDR4-3000 is nearly as cheap as DDR4-2400. There is only $5 difference for a 16 GiB kit at DDR4-3000 vs. DDR4-2400. Here is where we should take your $8 saved on the motherboard and combine it with another $9 to $20 out of your pocket to get bigger and faster DIMMs.
$60 2x8 GiB PC4-24000 G.Skill Aegis F4-3000C16D-16GISB (DDR4-3000, 16-18-18-38) <== My #2 choice because it's the cheapest in this group.
$63 2x8 GiB PC4-24000 G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3000C16D-16GVRB (DDR4-3000, 16-18-18-38)
$65 2x8 GiB PC4-24000 Corsair Vengeance LPXCMK16GX4M2B3000C15 (DDR4-3000, 15-17-17-35)
$69 2x8 GiB PC4-24000 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT BLS2K8G4D30AESCK (DDR4-3000, 15-16-16-) <== My #1 choice because of the tight timings and excellent RAM quality.
$70 2x8 GiB PC4-24000 G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3000C15D-16GVR (DDR4-3000, 15-15-15-35)
$70 2x8 GiB PC4-25600 Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 (DDR4-3200, 16-18-18-38)
$71 2x8 GiB PC4-25600 G.Skill Ripljaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (DDR4-3200, 16-18-18-38)

I don't recommend skimping to get just 8 GiB or memory slower than DDR4-3000, but there are choices that are better than spending $43 on 8 GiB of DDR4-2400 with loose timings.
$32 2x4 GiB PC4-19200 G.Skill Aegis F4-2400C15D-8GIS (DDR4-2400, 15-15-15-35)
$38 2x4 GiB PC4-22400 G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-2800C15D-8GVR (DDR4-2800, 15-15-15-35)
$43 2x4 GiB PC4-25600 G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-8GVKB (DDR4-3200, 16-18-18-35)
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Re: Low cost build for parents - memory ?

Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:38 am

Thanks for the comments. The Ram you have linked to refers to Intel, eg on your preferred number 2 it says "Intel Z170 Platform Memory" ?
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Re: Low cost build for parents - memory ?

Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:49 am

RAM is RAM is RAM. From major companies these days it's very hard to find anything that won't run in some fashion on modern boards/CPUs. Even "picky" CPUs like the first two iterations of Ryzen would happily run Intel-optimized memory at slightly slower speeds.

When going budget for people 99% of the time I go to Newegg and sort by price for a particular set size, then pick the first one that's from a major brand and isn't hideously slow.
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