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Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:12 pm

Yes I know....I don't usually care about new stuff, but with my current rig over 7 years old...it was time for a change. My trusty 3770K has lasted me a long time thanks to Intel rehashing their architecture for the last 10 years, but AMD is where I am back to again since the socket A days.

So here are the specs of my new rig

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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:33 pm

Wow, jumping all the way to a 3900X from a 7 year old 3770K rig has gotta be a pretty huge bump in performance!
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:34 pm

What will become of the 3770K? Will you be torturing it 24/7 now that it is dispensable?
 
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:41 am

No, Ill keep the 3770K up and running, I still have a ton of games installed on it that I am playing. It will be too big a pain to reinstall all of them on my new rig, and i still have to get used to win 10.
 
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:36 am

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Wow, jumping all the way to a 3900X from a 7 year old 3770K rig has gotta be a pretty huge bump in performance!



For mainstream stuff, not really that by much. 3900X will only show its muscles if you throw VMs, numbering-crunching and content creation stuff at it.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:43 am

Yeah. Sucks that for mainstream CPUs, we are still stuck at sub-5GHz speeds. Wish Intel's NetBurst architecture would have reached 10GHz. At least, single-threaded apps would have been blazing fast. Which kinda makes me wonder. What if they had kept on developing NetBurst and just included a single NetBurst core in every CPU for single-threaded tasks? Then we could have had the best of both worlds.
 
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:35 am

That looks like a powerful system, Starfalcon. Congratulations on the new build.

As impressive as TSMC's N7 process has been for AMD GPUs (and CPUs) released in mid-2019, I am expecting 2020's GPUs to use EUV fabrication processes from TSMC and Samsung.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:56 am

Congrats big guy. You had a great run with the 3770k, and hopefully another 5-7 year run with this system.
 
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:53 am

Well, now I'm looking nervously at the 3770S I'm still using. I mean, if Starfalcon is upgrading, the Ivy Bridge CPUs must be on the verge of exploding or something.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:56 pm

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For mainstream stuff, not really that by much. 3900X will only show its muscles if you throw VMs, numbering-crunching and content creation stuff at it.

I think you severely underestimate the difference between a 3770k core and a 3900x...
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:04 pm

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...the difference between 3770k and 3900x...
3900X - 3770K = 130M :wink:

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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:16 pm

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3900X - 3770K = 130M :wink:

3900X - 3770K = (3731M)
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:24 pm

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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:26 pm

Waco wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
For mainstream stuff, not really that by much. 3900X will only show its muscles if you throw VMs, numbering-crunching and content creation stuff at it.

I think you severely underestimate the difference between a 3770k core and a 3900x...


Nope, it is pretty close under mainstream stuff. Zen2 isn't that much faster than Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge at low-threaded stuff assuming clockspeeds are equal. 3770K easily boosts to its maximum of 3.9Ghz and can OC'ed easily to 4.2Ghz. 3900X is lucky to boost 4.5Ghz sustained. The difference between the isn't that dramatic unless you throw workloads that scale well beyond one or two-threads. That throws it squarely under number-crunching, content creation, VMs and power multi-tasking.

3900X is a very powerful workhorse CPU that has utterly disrupted the HEDT-scene, but frankly it is overkill for non-power users.

I think you vastly overestimate the demands of mainstream software and workloads. FYI, I have done comparisons between my current 9700K and 3570K systems. The 9700K only pulls ahead by significant margins under number-crunching, content creation and VMs (Thanks to proper VT-D support which 3570K lacks). Under mainstream stuff you would be hard-pressed to find a noticeable difference.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:59 pm

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Yeah. Sucks that for mainstream CPUs, we are still stuck at sub-5GHz speeds. Wish Intel's NetBurst architecture would have reached 10GHz. At least, single-threaded apps would have been blazing fast. Which kinda makes me wonder. What if they had kept on developing NetBurst and just included a single NetBurst core in every CPU for single-threaded tasks? Then we could have had the best of both worlds.

Given IPC improvements over the years, a 10Ghz Netburst core probably would not net you much of a gain even in single threaded performance, and might even be a step backwards.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:15 pm

Krogoth wrote:
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Krogoth wrote:
For mainstream stuff, not really that by much. 3900X will only show its muscles if you throw VMs, numbering-crunching and content creation stuff at it.

I think you severely underestimate the difference between a 3770k core and a 3900x...


Nope, it is pretty close under mainstream stuff. Zen2 isn't that much faster than Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge at low-threaded stuff assuming clockspeeds are equal.

They aren't the same clockspeeds nor are they similar in performance for lightly threaded workloads even if they were. 30-40% is not an unnoticeable difference.

Regardless - it's a huge step forward. :)
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

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Given IPC improvements over the years, a 10Ghz Netburst core probably would not net you much of a gain even in single threaded performance, and might even be a step backwards.


My napkin-math guess is that a netburst would have to hit around 15Ghz just to keep up with modern Sky Lake based cores in single threaded loads and that's assuming the load isn't using anything newer than SSE3...
 
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:31 pm

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Waco wrote:
I think you severely underestimate the difference between a 3770k core and a 3900x...


Nope, it is pretty close under mainstream stuff. Zen2 isn't that much faster than Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge at low-threaded stuff assuming clockspeeds are equal.

They aren't the same clockspeeds nor are they similar in performance for lightly threaded workloads even if they were. 30-40% is not an unnoticeable difference.

Regardless - it's a huge step forward. :)


It is closer to a 10-25% at best for overwhelming majority of mainstream stuff and games out there. There's a reason users held onto their Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge systems for so dang long. They are only biting upgrade bullet mostly to get newer standards and interfaces. Getting extra cores just sweetens the deal.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:47 pm

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Given IPC improvements over the years, a 10Ghz Netburst core probably would not net you much of a gain even in single threaded performance, and might even be a step backwards.

My napkin-math guess is that a netburst would have to hit around 15Ghz just to keep up with modern Sky Lake based cores in single threaded loads and that's assuming the load isn't using anything newer than SSE3...

If we assume a contemporary Netburst core could be updated with DDR4 support and larger caches, that balance may shift somewhat. But it is still by no means clear that it would come out ahead of a modern design running at half the clock speed.
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:48 pm

Netburst was starved for memory bandwidth. Imagine a 10GHz Northwood with modern branch predictors/architectural enhancements running with DDR4-4000 at the very least. I think it would be a thing to behold.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:48 am

Netburst at 10+GHz would have thermal output approaching that of a nuclear reactor....
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Netburst at 10+GHz would have thermal output approaching that of a nuclear reactor....

Maybe not at 7nm or lower.
 
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:36 am

That's still unlikely to get you to 10GHz without cryogenics. Silicon has hit a clockspeed plateau.

Sure, you're using less power at 7nm. But you've also got a much smaller surface area through which you can remove the heat. So the cooling is still a challenge.
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:53 pm

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Waco wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
For mainstream stuff, not really that by much. 3900X will only show its muscles if you throw VMs, numbering-crunching and content creation stuff at it.

I think you severely underestimate the difference between a 3770k core and a 3900x...


Nope, it is pretty close under mainstream stuff. Zen2 isn't that much faster than Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge at low-threaded stuff assuming clockspeeds are equal. 3770K easily boosts to its maximum of 3.9Ghz and can OC'ed easily to 4.2Ghz. 3900X is lucky to boost 4.5Ghz sustained. The difference between the isn't that dramatic unless you throw workloads that scale well beyond one or two-threads. That throws it squarely under number-crunching, content creation, VMs and power multi-tasking.

3900X is a very powerful workhorse CPU that has utterly disrupted the HEDT-scene, but frankly it is overkill for non-power users.

I think you vastly overestimate the demands of mainstream software and workloads. FYI, I have done comparisons between my current 9700K and 3570K systems. The 9700K only pulls ahead by significant margins under number-crunching, content creation and VMs (Thanks to proper VT-D support which 3570K lacks). Under mainstream stuff you would be hard-pressed to find a noticeable difference.


You aren't wrong about day to day work being pretty comparable.But I dunno... I've been struck by the speed gap between my Ryzen 1700 and the 8 core Sandy Bridge EP Xeon E5-4640 I just built. For well-threaded jobs the clock speed gap isn't gigantic - 2.5 GHz all core turbo on the Sandy, 3.15 GHz on Zen 1 - and the 1700 still walks away from it. In a Handbrake 1080p30 Fast encode the Xeon managed 35.8 fps, the Ryzen 59.1; in Cinebench R20, the Ryzen produced 3190, the Xeon 1750. And this is with the Ryzen running dual-channel DDR4-2400 versus the Xeon's quad-channel DDR3-1600. If I normalize those back, compensating for the Ryzen's 26% speed advantage, the Handbrake number would be 46.9 fps and 2532 for Cinebench R20. That's still an observed difference of ~30% and 44% to the aggregate IPC respectively.

The Xeon doesn't make me unhappy, but it hasn't put up the fight I expected. For weakly threaded apps there would be a full 1 GHz speed gap, so I'm not even going there, but there's more to the per-thread performance advantage than the clock speed delta alone makes up. I might manually underclock the Ryzen 1700 to a constant 2.5 GHz and re-run the benchmarks just for a closer apples to apples comparison... I'd grab an upgrade kit to nudge it to a matching 32 gigs of DDR4-3200 while I'm at it, but it's not hurting for that right now anyway.

Props to Starfalcon, by the way, for building a hyper rig. I'm planning to assemble a 3900x for a friend early next year to replace his iMac for multimedia work because he can't rationalize dropping six grand for an "entry-level" Mac Pro that would be beaten by a system costing about half as much. Every year Apple snorts more powdered money, I swear.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:11 pm

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It is closer to a 10-25% at best for overwhelming majority of mainstream stuff and games out there. There's a reason users held onto their Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge systems for so dang long. They are only biting upgrade bullet mostly to get newer standards and interfaces. Getting extra cores just sweetens the deal.

Just revisiting this since the thread popped up. I don't understand why you're downplaying the differences. No, it's not something crazy like the +80% that we say decades ago, but 30%+ is a huge leap and very noticeable to many. The gap only widens with faster GPUs available today for gaming purposes.

People held on to SB/IB systems (I was one of them) because the Intel cost of entry was so high for what felt like very little progress forward. 4 cores of SB to 4 cores of Skylake was a decent and very noticeable jump in performance, but it's still 4 cores to 4 cores at a huge cost of entry. I only purchased a 6700K because I had to review a Z170 motherboard. :P

Enter Ryzen, and suddenly we have 8+ cores of Skylake for the same price that 4 cores used to sit at. Or, 8-12-16 cores of Ryzen. It's a huge incentive to upgrade where previously not much existed.
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Comet Lake-S core i9 will offer up to 10 Skylake 14nm cores.
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Core i7-1068G7 seemed to be the most attractive in terms of performance and I was really looking forward to buying a decent laptop using this CPU. Unfortunately, it seems it may never see the light of day as it isn't even on Intel's ARK despite being announced.
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:43 am

It is less than 30% though in most mainstream applications/games though. It isn't that big of a difference unless the older system was starting to struggle (SB/IB aren't there yet).

People held on to SB/IB systems (I was one of them) because the Intel cost of entry was so high for what felt like very little progress forward. 4 cores of SB to 4 cores of Skylake was a decent and very noticeable jump in performance, but it's still 4 cores to 4 cores at a huge cost of entry. I only purchased a 6700K because I had to review a Z170 motherboard. :P


Facepalm, it is because there wasn't much of a difference to justify the cost and headaches of upgrading. The performance difference in Skylake only would reveal itself in memory bandwidth straved applications (Thanks to DDR4 on the platform). The same thing still holds true on modern systems under non-professional workloads but on the gaming-side it might change once PS5/Xbox One's successor get a foothold and finally raise the bar. At point, we would be taking about Zen3/Cooper Lake or whatever Intel cooks up at that time.
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Re: Starfalcon has built a new computer....not a joke

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Okay. I'm done.
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Okay. I'm done.


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