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whm1974 wrote:Looking up Z97 motherboards on newegg for some friends of mine, I notice that OEMs are still putting PCI slots on their boards. WHY? I thought PCI died a long time ago.
Mostly for unknown, ridiculous reasoning I can't wrap my brain around.
DancinJack wrote:whm1974 wrote:Looking up Z97 motherboards on newegg for some friends of mine, I notice that OEMs are still putting PCI slots on their boards. WHY? I thought PCI died a long time ago.
Party because Intel CPU's do have a ton of extra PCI-e lanes. Partly for backward compatibly for people like SSK who don't want to spend money on PCI-e expansion cards. Mostly for unknown, ridiculous reasoning I can't wrap my brain around.
Eh, such as replacing a sound card I paid over $200 for, with another sound card I'll have to pay over $200 for? Yup, sounds ridiculous to me. Just let me know when you're mailing me the check.
whm1974 wrote:While I can agree with you on that, are such old devices still supported?
i dont know about kvndoom's soundcard but my xonar is only about 3 years old so it is definitely supported
whm1974 wrote:Granted I went awhile without keeping track of stuff, but I'm under the impression that AMD and Intel stopped supporting PCI longer then that.
MaxTheLimit wrote:An interesting question would be if anyone still used AGP around here. PCI still has use for some decent peripherals. AGP....well...not so much.
Maybe it's because I don't deal with many OEM machines these days, but I don't see standard PCI slots being nearly as prevalient in new systems as you're suggesting. I think my last build with a PCI slot was a Socket 939.
AGP was graphics only. Any AGP card is going to be inferior to modern integrated GPUs. The interface is wholly defunct.
whm1974 wrote:My Z87 board has TWO of them. I was looking up Z97 boards for a couple friends of mine on newegg and every one they sell has one or two PCI slots, some up to four.
can you link the one with four? i want to have a laugh
having one is a good idea but four is just crazy lol
Also, a PCI is good for V.9x POTS modems for those times when you're nostalgic for the Sound of Handshake.
whm1974 wrote:People are still using POTS?
kvndoom wrote:Eh, such as replacing a sound card I paid over $200 for, with another sound card I'll have to pay over $200 for? Yup, sounds ridiculous to me. Just let me know when you're mailing me the check.
whm1974 wrote:People are still using POTS?
Meh, my USB DAC/headphone amp doesn't care about PCI slots. Maybe you should have got one instead of an obsolete PCI card?
As recently as 2013 I had a retail shop relaying inventory data site-to-site at 24kbps over clean POTS using a pair of V.92 US Robotics modems. Their provided line was multiplexed as the mall hadn't yet rewired the section, which nixed a cheap copper plan, and coverage of available wireless APs or 3G/4G was still poor then.
Some lunatic in multiple threads wrote:At least TR's favorite $145 Asus Z97-A ATX motherboard positions the two useless PCI slots so that they are the ones covered by the double-slot coolers on the PCIe X16 graphics cards.Micro-ATX LGA1150 motherboard with Z97 (for overclocking) or H97 (no overclocking possible):
H97: $96¼ Asus H97M-E/CSM or $95 MSI H97M-G43
Z97: $122 -10MIR MSI Z97M-G43 or $130 -10MIR Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 or $135 -20MIR ASRock F* Z97M K* or $142 -20MIR ASRock Z97M OC Formula or $160 -20MIR MSI Z97M Gaming or $162 Asus Gryphon Z97 or $215 Asus Maximus VII Gene
DancinJack wrote:kvndoom wrote:Eh, such as replacing a sound card I paid over $200 for, with another sound card I'll have to pay over $200 for? Yup, sounds ridiculous to me. Just let me know when you're mailing me the check.
Meh, my USB DAC/headphone amp doesn't care about PCI slots. Maybe you should have got one instead of an obsolete PCI card?
JustAnEngineer wrote:Sound cards, TV tuners, disk controllers, USB expansion cards, etc. all switched to PCIe in mid-2008. There has been no reason for a new gaming PC to need a PCI slot since then.
whm1974 wrote:Eh, such as replacing a sound card I paid over $200 for, with another sound card I'll have to pay over $200 for? Yup, sounds ridiculous to me. Just let me know when you're mailing me the check.
While I can agree with you on that, are such old devices still supported?