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Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 11:57 am

The Threadripper would like you to see its socket of unusual size in all of its glory.
Your puny LGA-2066 and LGA-3647 motherboards may scurry away in fear now!

Edit: And now the AMD Computex Live Keynote En Espanol!! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/148382186

Muy Gusto El Rippero!

No seriously, I know it's on Twitch but I could only get the spanish version.

Edit: Or maybe Youtube: https://www.amd.com/en/events/computex-2017

Or this one that actually works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK9z6NO1qyU
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:07 pm

I need to see this on an m-ITX for lulz.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:24 pm

Yeah, considering the socket is about 2/3 the size of the rear port cluster even with wifi antenna jacks, those extra cmos clear and reset buttons, and eleventy-one USB ports included. The board would be a socket plus two dimm slots and not much else.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:28 pm

Redocbew wrote:
Yeah, considering the socket is about 2/3 the size of the rear port cluster even with wifi antenna jacks, those extra cmos clear and reset buttons, and eleventy-one USB ports included. The board would be a socket plus two dimm slots and not much else.


I'm still waiting for a no-ports server-socket mini-ITX board with a Thunderbolt break-out box containing all the connectors.

Of course, that would require using TB for something, so it probably won't happen.
 
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:42 pm

Wow and I was scared of bending pins on the 2011. :o
The thought of mounting, well anything on that. :roll:
Thinking about water block costs and designs on that socket :-?
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:44 pm

Looks like we are heading back towards processors the size of a Slot 1 / Slot A cartridge. Except instead of contacts along one edge, it's contacts covering one entire side.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:46 pm

Damn, I knew being forced to build for myself last summer rather than the planned refresh this summer/autumn was a Bad Thing, but ... damn.
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Tue May 30, 2017 12:50 pm

DO WANT.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 12:59 pm

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Wow and I was scared of bending pins on the 2011. :o
The thought of mounting, well anything on that. :roll:
Thinking about water block costs and designs on that socket :-?


You'd probably be able to get a pretty good estimate by looking at some of the "monoblocks" that cool both the CPU and VRMs for specific boards. Except you won't be doing that here, and watercooling the VRMs is ridiculous anyway. :P
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 1:25 pm

Redocbew wrote:
thecoldanddarkone wrote:
Wow and I was scared of bending pins on the 2011. :o
The thought of mounting, well anything on that. :roll:
Thinking about water block costs and designs on that socket :-?


You'd probably be able to get a pretty good estimate by looking at some of the "monoblocks" that cool both the CPU and VRMs for specific boards. Except you won't be doing that here, and watercooling the VRMs is ridiculous anyway. :P


I haven't looked at monoblocks recently. I wouldn't be surprised if they are in the 200+ dollar range. O o
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 1:54 pm

Wow, reminds me of a Pentium Pro. That's a ton of surface area of cooling too.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 3:26 pm

I'm just gonna stick to vanilla AM4, thanks.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 3:28 pm

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I'm just gonna stick to vanilla AM4, thanks.


How are you going to rip out the threads if the CPU can't even fit in the socket?!?!
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 3:30 pm

chuckula wrote:
Concupiscence wrote:
I'm just gonna stick to vanilla AM4, thanks.


How are you going to rip out the threads if the CPU can't even fit in the socket?!?!


I legit laughed too hard at that. But I guess I'll take the demure, composed thread nibbling of Ryzen 7 instead. I'm not extreme enough for ThreadRipper (and would have to spin up some hilariously big jobs to justify the expense).
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 3:45 pm

Every time I see that stupid name, for some reason my brain says "ThreadDripper" (an extra 'd' in there).
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Tue May 30, 2017 7:00 pm

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Every time I see that stupid name, for some reason my brain says "ThreadDripper" (an extra 'd' in there).

You've been reading too many Chuckula posts.
 
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Tue May 30, 2017 7:20 pm

just brew it! wrote:
Every time I see that stupid name, for some reason my brain says "ThreadDripper" (an extra 'd' in there).
I read it as Three-Dripper. As in 3D but... drippier.
 
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Tue May 30, 2017 7:22 pm

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Every time I see that stupid name, for some reason my brain says "ThreadDripper" (an extra 'd' in there).

Bad memories of the Robert Plant-led The Honeydrippers?
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Tue May 30, 2017 8:03 pm

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just brew it! wrote:
Every time I see that stupid name, for some reason my brain says "ThreadDripper" (an extra 'd' in there).

Bad memories of the Robert Plant-led The Honeydrippers?


That was karmic punishment for all the blues songs that Led Zeppelin ripped off.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 10:11 pm

Good grief, you could probably put a credit card in there.
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Good grief, you could probably put a credit card in there.

Well, it'll take a whole credit card just to populate that socket.
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Re: Behold The Threadripper Socket foolish mortals!

Tue May 30, 2017 10:46 pm

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ronch wrote:
Good grief, you could probably put a credit card in there.

Well, it'll take a whole credit card just to populate that socket.


On that note, it was interesting that AMD's Computex keynote showed The Threadripper in action but they went out of their way to not mention a price.
Now that the Skylake X parts all have officially listed prices, it would have been super-easy marketing just to massively undercut them by announcing a $999 16 core part, even if it won't be launching this month. There's no way Intel would make a worthwhile price change after an announcement and everybody knows it.

So the question becomes, what made AMD not try to undercut Intel by simply saying Threadripper is cheap at this event? Does anybody seriously expect it to be noticeably more expensive than a 7900X?
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Tue May 30, 2017 10:52 pm

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On that note, it was interesting that AMD's Computex keynote showed The Threadripper in action but they went out of their way to not mention a price.

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just brew it! wrote:
chuckula wrote:
On that note, it was interesting that AMD's Computex keynote showed The Threadripper in action but they went out of their way to not mention a price.
"If you have to ask, you can't afford one!"

Will it debut in the Neiman-Marcus catalog?
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Tue May 30, 2017 10:57 pm

just brew it! wrote:
chuckula wrote:
On that note, it was interesting that AMD's Computex keynote showed The Threadripper in action but they went out of their way to not mention a price.

"If you have to ask, you can't afford one!"


Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting them to be free. But most of the buzz around this product was MOAR COARZ AND CHEAP since it sure wasn't going to be an overclocker's dream. They've got the core count but all Lisa Su had to do to throw some cold water on Skylake X without having to show a benchmark would be to throw out a price number that would make Skylake X look massively overpriced.

It actually looks like maybe AMD thought it could price a 16 core part at around $1500, call it a bargain vs. an old 6950X, and then be off to the cleaners. Something tells me that AMD is reacting to Intel, despite the conventional wisdom that it's always the other way around.
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Tue May 30, 2017 11:00 pm

In all likelihood they haven't announced a price yet because they still want the flexibility to tweak the MSRP before it officially launches. Nothing wrong with that.
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Tue May 30, 2017 11:12 pm

just brew it! wrote:
In all likelihood they haven't announced a price yet because they still want the flexibility to tweak the MSRP before it officially launches. Nothing wrong with that.


It probably will start at $499 (to avoid overlapping their regular R7 Ryzens) and go a bit beyond $1,000 mark for top of the line SKU.
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Wed May 31, 2017 8:41 am

Better image via TTR article https://rog.asus.com/media/1496150690319.jpg It's so large it makes the board actually look mATX.

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I need to see this on an m-ITX for lulz.


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Kougar wrote:
Better image via TTR article https://rog.asus.com/media/1496150690319.jpg It's so large it makes the board actually look mATX.

Anovoca wrote:
I need to see this on an m-ITX for lulz.


In mother Russia, motherboards install onto CPU!


I'd like to see one too, although it would kind of be a sad waste of all those PCIe lanes unless they have a clever break-out connector or something.
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Wed May 31, 2017 9:05 am

chuckula wrote:
Kougar wrote:
Better image via TTR article https://rog.asus.com/media/1496150690319.jpg It's so large it makes the board actually look mATX.

Anovoca wrote:
I need to see this on an m-ITX for lulz.


In mother Russia, motherboards install onto CPU!


I'd like to see one too, although it would kind of be a sad waste of all those PCIe lanes unless they have a clever break-out connector or something.



Ample space on the back side of the board which is a fairly common practice for m-ITX. How to run the lanes would be another question entirely; but I would not be opposed to break-out connector that fed off of SATA ports with something similar in nature to an oversized SATA Express cable. Either way, it sure would be interesting to see a 16core VMHost barely 1.5x the size of a thin client.
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