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Duct Tape Dude wrote:Only drawback I can think of is cost--SODIMMs are obviously slightly more expensive.
Chrispy_ wrote:284 pins in a regular DIMM are spaced further apart than the 260 pins in a SODIMM so cheaper slots can be used
Vhalidictes wrote:Could be rough for 8-channel workstation boards.
Glorious wrote:(TSOP seems deprecated or even obsolete for memory ICs)
UberGerbil wrote:So: lower performance and lower capacity, but at least they're more expensive. Let's do this.
UberGerbil wrote:So: lower performance and lower capacity, but at least they're more expensive. Let's do this.
Glorious wrote:So maybe it's less relevant now (TSOP seems deprecated or even obsolete for memory ICs), but unless servers are willing to forgo quad-rank for maximum density and low-end desktops for possible efficiency (twice as many low density chips can potentially be cheaper than half as many normal density ones) DIMMs are still going to stick around.
UberGerbil wrote:So: lower performance and lower capacity, but at least they're more expensive.
DancinJack wrote:I have to admit this is exactly what I thought too.
DPete27 wrote:Lower capacity: Both DIMMs and SODIMMs offer up to 16GB per module (stated above)
DancinJack wrote:almost every single other SO-DIMM kit is slower than what you can get on the DIMM side for desktop/server at the top end. That's just how it is right now.
DPete27 wrote:hat would consolidate products and reduce the chances/risk of unsold inventory at the very least.
Glorious wrote:DancinJack wrote:almost every single other SO-DIMM kit is slower than what you can get on the DIMM side for desktop/server at the top end. That's just how it is right now.
Sure, but that's almost certainly because faster = hotter and it's not a reasonable trade-off for mobile or SFF. So there's currently not much market pressure for that.
Glorious wrote:But that's simply wrong. You can buy 64 GB DIMMs.
DPete27 wrote:Glorious wrote:But that's simply wrong. You can buy 64 GB DIMMs.
The server grade arena wasn't my intended focus, but it can't be ignored either since I DID say "for everything." Whereas consumer tier RAM doesn't seem to fully utilize the physical size of DIMMs, server tier stuff certainly can/does pack a huge amount of chips on each stick. Admittedly, I don't have an answer for this argument. You could separate DIMMs for ECC and SODIMMs for non-ECC, but the "consumer tier" CPUs and chipsets that support both ECC and non-ECC muddies those waters.
DancinJack wrote:You don't need DIMMs for ECC
DPete27 wrote:I know, but people are using high-density ECC DIMMs to burn my balls, so I'm having to admit defeat on the server tier side of things (even though, as shown above, you could stuff twice as many SODIMMs into the same size server mobo)
DPete27 wrote:DancinJack wrote:You don't need DIMMs for ECC
I know, but people are using high-density ECC DIMMs to burn my balls, so I'm having to admit defeat on the server tier side of things (even though, as shown above, you could stuff twice as many SODIMMs into the same size server mobo)
DancinJack wrote:You don't need DIMMs for ECC, there just isn't any market for ECC memory in laptops right now. (since laptops are virtually the only place SO-DIMMs are right now). If SO-DIMMS were the mainstream RAM package you would see a lot more.