CScottG wrote:Captain Ned wrote:Have fun digging out the proof..
-me personally? Nope.
It's (IMO) more than reasonable supposition. Like it is with OPEC and gas prices.
Proof please.
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CScottG wrote:Captain Ned wrote:Have fun digging out the proof..
-me personally? Nope.
It's (IMO) more than reasonable supposition. Like it is with OPEC and gas prices.
CScottG wrote:It's (IMO) more than reasonable supposition. Like it is with OPEC and gas prices.
End User wrote:Proof please.
CScottG wrote:End User wrote:Proof please.
Find it yourself.
End User wrote:I paid $500 for 4GB of memory back in the day. Something similar to:
2006 (year): 2x 1GB DIMM DDR-500 PC4000 @ $229.81 OCZ Gold
Memory Prices (1957-2017)
freebird wrote:End User wrote:I paid $500 for 4GB of memory back in the day. Something similar to:
2006 (year): 2x 1GB DIMM DDR-500 PC4000 @ $229.81 OCZ Gold
Memory Prices (1957-2017)
Yeah and I paid approx. $400 for 16MB of memory in my 486 build if I remember correctly & $450 for a 540MB Connor HD.
Prices are based on Supply, Demand & BOM...
End User wrote:CScottG wrote:End User wrote:Proof please.
Find it yourself.
No. You outlined something you have yet to backup.
Glorious wrote:CScottG wrote:It's (IMO) more than reasonable supposition. Like it is with OPEC and gas prices.
Uh... that's really just not the same thing, sorry. OPEC has public agreements, and the C in it stands for Country, not company. Sovereign nations can do what they want, and so forth: no need to hide or pretend.
CScottG wrote:rather it's a reasonable supposition that OPEC manipulates gas prices. Just as it is a reasonable supposition that at the very least the top 3 manufacturers of DRAM collude to manipulate memory prices.
just brew it! wrote:Or, to put it simply: One is explicitly and formally a cartel. The other one is a probable cartel, based on past history.
Glorious wrote:
Stop.
freebird wrote:Prices are based on Supply, Demand & BOM...
just brew it! wrote:RAM prices are part of the reason I'm still running an increasingly long in the tooth AMD FX system. Moving to anything more modern would mean all new RAM since I can't re-use the DDR3 I've got on hand.
Vhalidictes wrote:just brew it! wrote:RAM prices are part of the reason I'm still running an increasingly long in the tooth AMD FX system. Moving to anything more modern would mean all new RAM since I can't re-use the DDR3 I've got on hand.
You might be able to set up a Skylake system with DDR3, it wouldn't be too out of date even now.
NovusBogus wrote:freebird wrote:Prices are based on Supply, Demand & BOM...
This seems to be the primary driver. Chip production rates have been relatively stable for a while, be it simple erroneous forecasting or some sinister conspiracy to limit production, but demand is increasing from a mix of smartphones, Sandy/Ivy system retirement, crypto mining, etc. Blaming it all on the smartphones is definitely a BS argument, but that by itself proves little beyond poor market awareness on the part of manufacturers. Perhaps some damning internal communications will get leaked that show actual agreements between actual parties with actual rate/price/etc. stipulations, but in the absence of that I can't see this as much beyond a bad situation brought about by a rather stagnant industry without much competition or innovation.
Welch wrote:Vhalidictes wrote:just brew it! wrote:RAM prices are part of the reason I'm still running an increasingly long in the tooth AMD FX system. Moving to anything more modern would mean all new RAM since I can't re-use the DDR3 I've got on hand.
You might be able to set up a Skylake system with DDR3, it wouldn't be too out of date even now.
Unfortunately if you look, a lot of DDR prices are insane too. Probably due to DDR4 process pushing people to older system and then of course a waning DDR3 supply.