Personal computing discussed
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strangerguy wrote:All the DRAM/NAND production is owned by South Korea/U.S/Japan companies, the only regulatory agency who gives a damn about the price fixing so far is from China, and the only one who is hellbent in ramping up homegrown DRAM/NAND production, gasp, is also China
But like you say, of course it's all the damn communists fault.
Welch wrote:It wasn't that long ago you could get 8GB of DDR3 for sub $30 on sale.
Something is most certainly rotten in the state of Denmark China.
This is one of those times where I'd love to see some more competition kick in and undercut the hell out of them. I guess the FTC and other foreign "protection" agencies are asleep at the wheel on this one.
Welch wrote:hard drive prices sky rocketed after almost none of the manufacturing plants were "hit" by Fukishima.
Flying Fox wrote:Welch wrote:hard drive prices sky rocketed after almost none of the manufacturing plants were "hit" by Fukishima.
Did you mean the Thailand floods?
Welch wrote:The original point of it all being a crock and that RAM prices are BS just the same way that hard drive prices sky rocketed after almost none of the manufacturing plants were "hit" by Fukishima.... Floods in Thailand.
just brew it! wrote:
That said, I agree with you that HDD prices seemed to stay artificially high after the factories came back online.
HERETIC wrote:just brew it! wrote:
That said, I agree with you that HDD prices seemed to stay artificially high after the factories came back online.
Probably took a little while to re-coup their losses from the floods.
Then you have Seagate buying Samsung HD division and WD buying Hitachi HD division.
More debt's for us(the customer) to pay off......................................
End User wrote:
The Egg wrote:It's actually significantly worse right now than the chart shows
just brew it! wrote:To be fair here, when you're dealing with a high-volume commodity even a small fluctuation in supply can cause massive price swings. Look at the price of things like gasoline and eggs in the US, for example. (Well in the lower 48, anyway... maybe up in Alaska they're just always expensive.)
End User wrote:The Egg wrote:It's actually significantly worse right now than the chart shows
All I know is I paid roughly $500 CDN for 4GB of memory back in 2006. I just bought a 32GB memory kit for $575 CDN. The world is not ending due to the current state of memory prices.
Flying Fox wrote:just brew it! wrote:To be fair here, when you're dealing with a high-volume commodity even a small fluctuation in supply can cause massive price swings. Look at the price of things like gasoline and eggs in the US, for example. (Well in the lower 48, anyway... maybe up in Alaska they're just always expensive.)
A bit off topic here. My understanding that for gasoline, the choke point is usually not the supply of crude but the handful of refineries concentrated near the Gulf of Mexico area? So a hurricane knocking out one or 2 of these, and we will have big supply fluctuations?
The Egg wrote:an installed base of 1 machine.
The Egg wrote:You do realize there are other people in the world, right?
The Egg wrote:who has $575 to blow on ram
just brew it! wrote:RAM prices are part of the reason I'm still running an increasingly long in the tooth AMD FX system. Moving to anything more modern would mean all new RAM since I can't re-use the DDR3 I've got on hand.
CScottG wrote:Now I can't find it for less than about $180 (per 16 GB stick), and it has nothing to do with *real* manufacturing problems.
Captain Ned wrote:CScottG wrote:Now I can't find it for less than about $180 (per 16 GB stick), and it has nothing to do with *real* manufacturing problems.
And any mfg who sold for less than the market price (yet still made a profit on mfg costs) would instantly be sued by its stockholders for failing to maximize shareholder value.
CScottG wrote:Yes, but the price is artificially being inflated through collusion - ie. PRICE FIXING. The "market" price then is FAKE (..just like it is for Diamonds and Inkjet Ink).
Kougar wrote:Same. I was sorely tempted to build a rig around the cheap 7920X chips Fry's had for BF, but 64GB of DDR4 would run $600. 32GB is just not enough for a system with that many cores.
just brew it! wrote:Core count and memory usage aren't necessarily correlated. Unless you're running a lot of VMs 32GB should still be enough.
Airmantharp wrote:just brew it! wrote:Core count and memory usage aren't necessarily correlated. Unless you're running a lot of VMs 32GB should still be enough.
And even then...
Really depends on how much and what kind of work being done, something I'm sure we're all aware of. If it ain't much, then, even a stack of Windows VMs (who would do that on purpose...) wouldn't eat up too much.
The AF taught us system administration with three Windows 2003 VMs running on an XP workstation with Phenom X3's with 2GB of RAM...
Captain Ned wrote:Have fun digging out the proof..