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Waco wrote:I don't know if this counts, but I hopped from 16 GB to 32 GB in the past week. It may be totally placebo effect, but games seem smoother than before.
rinshun wrote:But can extra ram reduce time beyond 50ms more than the GPU upgrade?
Usacomp2k3 wrote:Waco wrote:I don't know if this counts, but I hopped from 16 GB to 32 GB in the past week. It may be totally placebo effect, but games seem smoother than before.
Is that with the R7?
Usacomp2k3 wrote:Based on that pretty good review, if the 8GB would pay for the jump from the 570 to the 580 then absolutely do it.
TurtlePerson2 wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:When it comes to RAM, why buy 16 GB now if you don't think you'll need it? A lot of motherboards have 4 DIMM slots, so just buy 8 GB now and get 8 GB more in the future if needed.
rinshun wrote:TurtlePerson2 wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:When it comes to RAM, why buy 16 GB now if you don't think you'll need it? A lot of motherboards have 4 DIMM slots, so just buy 8 GB now and get 8 GB more in the future if needed.
I'm gonna take an entry level MB; so only 2 DIMM slots, so if I want to upgrade I'd be in a bad spot. Unless I used only one 8GB stick but that means no Dual Channel =X
rinshun wrote:Hello,
I'm trying to decide if I'm gonna settle for 2x4GB or 2x8GB for a new system I'll build. (For gaming)
All tests shows that 8gb is enough and upgrading to 16gb will not give a decent advantage. But I can only find FPS based tests, not frametime based ones. And, as we at techreport know, sometimes it may give you unsatisfying results.
Going for 16GB would increase the system cost considerably, and I could use that money to buy a better GPU or Monitor. So, 16Gb just for future proofing does not look like a good deal. I would only consider it if it severely reduce stutters or other undesireable things.
rinshun wrote:I'm gonna take an entry level MB; so only 2 DIMM slots, so if I want to upgrade I'd be in a bad spot. Unless I used only one 8GB stick but that means no Dual Channel =X
Thank you all for the answers! =)
ptsant wrote:1. RAM prices are going down from a very long period of very high prices. A 32GB kit used to cost $200, went up to $400 and is now back to about $240. And I am using the exact same kit (Corsair 3000C15 LPX) as an example. So, you won't be buying RAM at a very bad time and it might even be worth waiting a little bit.
just brew it! wrote:ptsant wrote:1. RAM prices are going down from a very long period of very high prices. A 32GB kit used to cost $200, went up to $400 and is now back to about $240. And I am using the exact same kit (Corsair 3000C15 LPX) as an example. So, you won't be buying RAM at a very bad time and it might even be worth waiting a little bit.
Yeah, I'd noticed that unbuffered non-ECC is finally coming back down. But for some reason unbuffered ECC hasn't, and in some cases has even risen slightly. WTF. It's the same damn chips; ECC modules just have them in multiples of 9 instead of 8.
Aranarth wrote:Personally I would upgrade to 16gb ram this will give you room for the future.
The Egg wrote:If you're building a new system for gaming, definitely get 16GB. If you're getting a motherboard with only two RAM slots, it should be even less of a question.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:Aranarth wrote:Personally I would upgrade to 16gb ram this will give you room for the future.The Egg wrote:If you're building a new system for gaming, definitely get 16GB. If you're getting a motherboard with only two RAM slots, it should be even less of a question.
Both of ya'll are saying that 16GB + RX570 would give better gaming performance than 8GB + RX580? That's ridiculous.
Krogoth wrote:just brew it! wrote:Yeah, I'd noticed that unbuffered non-ECC is finally coming back down. But for some reason unbuffered ECC hasn't, and in some cases has even risen slightly. WTF. It's the same damn chips; ECC modules just have them in multiples of 9 instead of 8.
It is probably due to a recent, unexpected demand due to influx of Ryzen/Threadripper users who wanted to setup a workstation build on the relative cheap.
just brew it! wrote:Krogoth wrote:just brew it! wrote:Yeah, I'd noticed that unbuffered non-ECC is finally coming back down. But for some reason unbuffered ECC hasn't, and in some cases has even risen slightly. WTF. It's the same damn chips; ECC modules just have them in multiples of 9 instead of 8.
It is probably due to a recent, unexpected demand due to influx of Ryzen/Threadripper users who wanted to setup a workstation build on the relative cheap.
I find it somewhat hard to believe that this represents a large enough slice of the market to dramatically shift the supply/demand equation. I guess it's possible though. And registered ECC is actually cheaper than unregistered right now, which supports your theory (since it makes no sense unless supply/demand is currently out of whack).
The Egg wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:Aranarth wrote:Personally I would upgrade to 16gb ram this will give you room for the future.The Egg wrote:If you're building a new system for gaming, definitely get 16GB. If you're getting a motherboard with only two RAM slots, it should be even less of a question.
Both of ya'll are saying that 16GB + RX570 would give better gaming performance than 8GB + RX580? That's ridiculous.
It's probably in your best interest not to put words in people's mouths like that in person. Not only did I not say anything resembling that, I never even mentioned videocards. You're completely full of it.
DancinJack wrote:just brew it! wrote:Krogoth wrote:It is probably due to a recent, unexpected demand due to influx of Ryzen/Threadripper users who wanted to setup a workstation build on the relative cheap.
I find it somewhat hard to believe that this represents a large enough slice of the market to dramatically shift the supply/demand equation. I guess it's possible though. And registered ECC is actually cheaper than unregistered right now, which supports your theory (since it makes no sense unless supply/demand is currently out of whack).
There is almost zero possibility this is the actual reason.
DancinJack wrote:Do your thing, Krogoth!
rinshun wrote:The majority here seems to favor 16GB; but I see it's not an unanimous opinion. Most people like to play it safe, but is this a cognitive bias related to loss aversion? It's hard to put a price on risk, specially when it's unknown. Also, there is some proof that more ram is beneficial. But is that benefit correctly priced?