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K-L-Waster wrote:If it proceeds to work fine after the pauses, I don't think it's hardware related. That sounds like some piece of software is trying to do something and won't let the system do anything else until it either completes or times out. Possibly some app is trying to phone home?
The event viewer would be useful -- you may also want to look at your firewall logs at the time of the pauses to see if there's anything attempting to reach an external site at that time.
K-L-Waster wrote:If it proceeds to work fine after the pauses, I don't think it's hardware related. That sounds like some piece of software is trying to do something and won't let the system do anything else until it either completes or times out. Possibly some app is trying to phone home?
The event viewer would be useful -- you may also want to look at your firewall logs at the time of the pauses to see if there's anything attempting to reach an external site at that time.
Chrispy_ wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:If it proceeds to work fine after the pauses, I don't think it's hardware related. That sounds like some piece of software is trying to do something and won't let the system do anything else until it either completes or times out. Possibly some app is trying to phone home?
The event viewer would be useful -- you may also want to look at your firewall logs at the time of the pauses to see if there's anything attempting to reach an external site at that time.
Software would be my first assumption, but I've had storage hardware problems that exhibited this behaviour before. Loose cable, failing SSD, Intel P67 chipset bug etc.
I don't see what storage you're using for this build listed above.
Chrispy_ wrote:Software would be my first assumption, but I've had storage hardware problems that exhibited this behaviour before. Loose cable, failing SSD, Intel P67 chipset bug etc.
derFunkenstein wrote:I just built a Ryzen 3 2200G system for my daughter based on that exact CPU and mobo. Have you updated the EFI to the latest yet on the motherboard? The board I got was still running the first release.
If you have, I'd start with a Memtest86 run. Eliminate memory errors as a potential cause. We're not seeing anything like that, but the only games she's playing on it are Roblox and Minecraft.
Urshurak776 wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:I just built a Ryzen 3 2200G system for my daughter based on that exact CPU and mobo. Have you updated the EFI to the latest yet on the motherboard? The board I got was still running the first release.
If you have, I'd start with a Memtest86 run. Eliminate memory errors as a potential cause. We're not seeing anything like that, but the only games she's playing on it are Roblox and Minecraft.
What drivers did you load after windows 10 install? Chipset, then adrenaline?
Thanks again.
derFunkenstein wrote:Urshurak776 wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:I just built a Ryzen 3 2200G system for my daughter based on that exact CPU and mobo. Have you updated the EFI to the latest yet on the motherboard? The board I got was still running the first release.
If you have, I'd start with a Memtest86 run. Eliminate memory errors as a potential cause. We're not seeing anything like that, but the only games she's playing on it are Roblox and Minecraft.
What drivers did you load after windows 10 install? Chipset, then adrenaline?
Thanks again.
Yeah, I did chipset first and then Adrenaline afterwards. Got the latest for both from the AMD website, not the ones from ASRock. I just pitched the CD that came with the motherboard.
derFunkenstein wrote:Yeah, I did chipset first and then Adrenaline afterwards. Got the latest for both from the AMD website, not the ones from ASRock. I just pitched the CD that came with the motherboard.
Urshurak776 wrote:What happens is the computer is up and running. Every once in a while, it just freezes, then goes back to normal after 7 or 8 seconds. It does it idling, it does it in the middle of a game, it does it while surfing the net. I researched a bit and thought maybe the cool and quiet function (C state?) may be the culprit. I disabled it but no change.
dragontamer5788 wrote:Urshurak776 wrote:What happens is the computer is up and running. Every once in a while, it just freezes, then goes back to normal after 7 or 8 seconds. It does it idling, it does it in the middle of a game, it does it while surfing the net. I researched a bit and thought maybe the cool and quiet function (C state?) may be the culprit. I disabled it but no change.
Do you use a hard drive?
I once had a very slow "Green" 5400 RPM hard drive, which was the thing that caused the issue. Effectively, the hard drive would throttle down severely and sleep. Every now and then, Windows would need a new file from the hard drive, but it'd take 5+ seconds for the hard drive to spin back up and turn on again. Windows would just hang and do nothing until the hard drive was ready.
If this is a hard drive problem, I'd tweak the settings. You may need to change the firmware of the hard drive to get it to stop sleeping so aggressively.
dragontamer5788 wrote:Urshurak776 wrote:What happens is the computer is up and running. Every once in a while, it just freezes, then goes back to normal after 7 or 8 seconds. It does it idling, it does it in the middle of a game, it does it while surfing the net. I researched a bit and thought maybe the cool and quiet function (C state?) may be the culprit. I disabled it but no change.
Do you use a hard drive?
I once had a very slow "Green" 5400 RPM hard drive, which was the thing that caused the issue. Effectively, the hard drive would throttle down severely and sleep. Every now and then, Windows would need a new file from the hard drive, but it'd take 5+ seconds for the hard drive to spin back up and turn on again. Windows would just hang and do nothing until the hard drive was ready.
If this is a hard drive problem, I'd tweak the settings. You may need to change the firmware of the hard drive to get it to stop sleeping so aggressively.
Concupiscence wrote:dragontamer5788 wrote:
Do you use a hard drive?
I once had a very slow "Green" 5400 RPM hard drive, which was the thing that caused the issue. Effectively, the hard drive would throttle down severely and sleep. Every now and then, Windows would need a new file from the hard drive, but it'd take 5+ seconds for the hard drive to spin back up and turn on again. Windows would just hang and do nothing until the hard drive was ready.
If this is a hard drive problem, I'd tweak the settings. You may need to change the firmware of the hard drive to get it to stop sleeping so aggressively.
You may also be able to tweak this behavior in the Windows power management settings on a per-device basis. I don't guarantee it will keep your custom power settings preserved across major updates, but it may stop the problem cold.
dragontamer5788 wrote:Concupiscence wrote:dragontamer5788 wrote:
Do you use a hard drive?
I once had a very slow "Green" 5400 RPM hard drive, which was the thing that caused the issue. Effectively, the hard drive would throttle down severely and sleep. Every now and then, Windows would need a new file from the hard drive, but it'd take 5+ seconds for the hard drive to spin back up and turn on again. Windows would just hang and do nothing until the hard drive was ready.
If this is a hard drive problem, I'd tweak the settings. You may need to change the firmware of the hard drive to get it to stop sleeping so aggressively.
You may also be able to tweak this behavior in the Windows power management settings on a per-device basis. I don't guarantee it will keep your custom power settings preserved across major updates, but it may stop the problem cold.
Depends on the hard drive. The "Green" hard drive I had would sleep on its own volition, no matter what Windows settings I used. Only by running some device-specific code was I finally able to get it to stop sleeping all the damn time.
EDIT: First, confirm that the hard drive is the problem. Next time you have a hiccup, listen carefully: can you hear the hard drive? Is it spinning faster and faster? Does the computer start to "move" again once the hard drive is spinning fastest? If you can confirm whether or not the hard drive is the problem, then we can work on fixing it.
Concupiscence wrote:dragontamer5788 wrote:Concupiscence wrote:
You may also be able to tweak this behavior in the Windows power management settings on a per-device basis. I don't guarantee it will keep your custom power settings preserved across major updates, but it may stop the problem cold.
Depends on the hard drive. The "Green" hard drive I had would sleep on its own volition, no matter what Windows settings I used. Only by running some device-specific code was I finally able to get it to stop sleeping all the damn time.
EDIT: First, confirm that the hard drive is the problem. Next time you have a hiccup, listen carefully: can you hear the hard drive? Is it spinning faster and faster? Does the computer start to "move" again once the hard drive is spinning fastest? If you can confirm whether or not the hard drive is the problem, then we can work on fixing it.
Really? God, that's just uncouth.