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Chrispy_ wrote:I wouldn't worry about G-Sync unless you have lots of disposable income. You can pick up decent 2560x1440 and 2560x1080 screens for less than the "G-Sync tax" alone in some cases.
4K is honestly more hassle than it's worth unless you can get one big enough to bring the PPI down to at least 125ppi - which means a 35" screen, and even then the text is going to be smaller than you're used to. Using Windows DPI scaling is pointless because so much stuff is rasterised that it's a disaster. Literally the only things that work 100% properly are Microsoft Edge and Windows Explorer.
[Freesync mumbo jumbo]
Ifalna wrote:I really don't want to hassle that much with refresh rates [FreeSync]
Chrispy_ wrote:Freesync is just a set and forget like G-Sync to be honest. One slider in the driver, the monitor probably defaults to Freesync "on" if it's not also a one-off setting never to be touched again.
Once you run an Nvidia card at 120Hz, it all seems to work properly again. Just google "Nvidia frame-skip" and grab yourself a popcorn
Ifalna wrote:playing the lottery when buying a new monitor
Ifalna wrote:Good to know. I was a bit confused because you wrote about "overclockable displays" etc.
Chrispy_ wrote:As for TN/IPS/VA quality, ghosting, contrast, viewing angles - yes, you're somewhat right - it *is* a bit of a crapshoot. That's why my initial recommendation to go to a store and see something in the flesh is still worth doing. You might decide that modern TN panels are good enough for you, you might decide that IPS corner glow doesn't really bother you. I can only speak from my experience with my own preferences and they clearly aren't the same as those of others
DPete27 wrote:Guess which one is IPS. Both monitors angle directly at me.
DPete27 wrote:The Dell TN
Ifalna wrote:Just out of curiosity b/c the thought randomly occurred: what happens to the whole G-Sync/Freesync stuff when you are like me and play in windowed mode most of the time?
Ifalna wrote:Since you have so many different panels: how dramatic are the differences to you?
Ifalna wrote:It would limit me to AMD GPUs and frankly, I think the 480x is too weak to be future proof (3-4 Years) for 1440p and God only knows when they release the pendant to the 1070. ._.
Chrispy_ wrote:Ifalna wrote:Just out of curiosity b/c the thought randomly occurred: what happens to the whole G-Sync/Freesync stuff when you are like me and play in windowed mode most of the time?
Nothing. Works like a standard monitor at whatever your desktop refresh rate is. Even normal vsync isn't supported in windowed mode for a lot of things.
llisandro wrote:The other thing I'd consider, if work is your primarily use and you've got the cash for future-proofing, is a 34" or larger 3440x1440 ultrawide. I think it's worth seeing something like the LG 34UM88C-P in person. It's not for everybody, but I really dig it as a dual-screen replacement, with the upside of some widescreen games. We
Chrispy_ wrote:
- TN = Fast but sample-and-hold blur still makes motion blur visible, almost as much as IPS and VA panel types.
- IPS = Best viewing angles but lower contrast (greys instead of black) and often quite severe washout at the corners, not dissimilar to TN's above-angle washout
- VA = The slowest of the lot but with undoubtedly the most vibrant colours and best contrast (inky dark black). This is my choice for dark games and movies but probably not ideal for your competitive twitch shooter or a strobing backlight display. They have a colour shift horizontally but it's not as bad as TN's vertical shift and a curved screen mitigates that almost entirely.
Ifalna wrote:DPete27 wrote:The Dell TN
So, the right one is the one that's supposed to have the accurate colors?
Hm. Okay.
Guess it's pretty difficult to judge color accuracy via Monitor -> camera -> image compression -> browser image processing -> yet another TN panel.
Anyhow, I appreciate the effort. I'd agree that the left screen looks a little greyish/washed out. Imho, realistic colors would lie somewhere in between both monitors. The water looks nice on your acer, but the blue of the sky is just piercing and extreme.
Chrispy_ wrote:It's really really obvious when you're in a dark room though, a cinema-like environment for movies, or a darkened room for atmospheric gaming. For this reason I'm really enjoying the VA panels. I bought a VA television for my living room specifically because I wanted a good dark room performance and every time I watch a movie/show at someone else's house I'm reminded how much the backlight leak and greyish blacks can ruin a movie. Even on bright, cheerful content the backlight bleed and low black performance is painfully obvious because so many things put black bar letterboxing on the screen.
travbrad wrote:Ifalna wrote:DPete27 wrote:The Dell TN
So, the right one is the one that's supposed to have the accurate colors?
Hm. Okay.
Guess it's pretty difficult to judge color accuracy via Monitor -> camera -> image compression -> browser image processing -> yet another TN panel.
Anyhow, I appreciate the effort. I'd agree that the left screen looks a little greyish/washed out. Imho, realistic colors would lie somewhere in between both monitors. The water looks nice on your acer, but the blue of the sky is just piercing and extreme.
So much of it depends on how they have been calibrated too. All types of monitors can have some pretty terrible defaults and presets. I'd say TNs get the calibration wrong more than IPS overall, but neither are that great "out of the box" usually. Not all TN panels are equal to each other either and the same is true for IPS.