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Remote control extenders

Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:50 pm

Sorry, didn't know where else to put this. Feel free to move as needed.

My DTV reciever is behind a wall. So obviously the IR remote isn't getting it done. I was looking at this as a possible solution. Anyone else have a similar issue? How did you solve it?
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Re: Remote control extenders

Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:36 pm

Obvious question is why is it behind a wall?
 
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Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:01 pm

Crazy thought: If you're willing to drill a hole through the wall maybe you can do something with fiber optics?
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Re: Remote control extenders

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:03 pm

Nutmeg wrote:
Obvious question is why is it behind a wall?

Because I dont want all the equipment out where I have to look at it. The wall the tv is on is opposite the laundry room soooooo all the equipment is in there.

Jbi: there's already a hole in the wall, how can I use fiber optics?
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Re: Remote control extenders

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:04 pm

That looks like the obvious way to solve it. Just make sure you're not using anything that will interfere with the RF band used by the device.

Why behind a wall, though? I can't think of how that setup comes to be...
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Re: Remote control extenders

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Another option you might consider is to use a wired repeater system instead of an extender.
Pros: Less complicated system, may avoid some issues you might have setting up the RF system. May be stealthier and the receiver unit might look better.
Cons: Depending on the model, it might not be easy to pass the wire through the wall (Does the receiver disconnect from the unit? Is the wire long enough?

http://www.amazon.com/Smarthome-59501-H ... 301&sr=1-2
 
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Re: Remote control extenders

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:34 pm

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Jbi: there's already a hole in the wall, how can I use fiber optics?

Well, I'm not sure if it's actually practical. But the first thing that popped into my head was some sort of flexible fiber optic light pipe running through the wall to the IR receiver on the equipment. Aim the remote at the appropriate spot on the wall, and the IR receiver should still be able to see it?

Caveat: I may in fact be full of crap on this...
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Re: Remote control extenders

Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:51 pm

FireGryphon wrote:
Why behind a wall, though? I can't think of how that setup comes to be...


idchafee wrote:
Because I dont want all the equipment out where I have to look at it. The wall the tv is on is opposite the laundry room soooooo all the equipment is in there.


MJZ82 wrote:
Another option you might consider is to use a wired repeater system instead of an extender.
Pros: Less complicated system, may avoid some issues you might have setting up the RF system. May be stealthier and the receiver unit might look better.
Cons: Depending on the model, it might not be easy to pass the wire through the wall (Does the receiver disconnect from the unit? Is the wire long enough?

http://www.amazon.com/Smarthome-59501-H ... 301&sr=1-2


This has promise
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Re: Remote control extenders

Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:50 am

just brew it! wrote:
Well, I'm not sure if it's actually practical. But the first thing that popped into my head was some sort of flexible fiber optic light pipe running through the wall to the IR receiver on the equipment. Aim the remote at the appropriate spot on the wall, and the IR receiver should still be able to see it?
I have only played with fiber optics in terms of plugging cables in to routers, but I don't think your idea will work. There would need to be some very fancy lens type thingummy on the end to get the light that was hitting at all angles to go down the pipe and I suspect the area of the end is so small that you wouldn't be collecting enough light.

To the OP. I think you should be able to back-to-back an IR receiver and IR blaster on a cable through the wall with suitable power supply. I'd probably put one together myself using the ideas at for the separate circuits at LIRC http://www.lirc.org/transmitters.html and http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html
 
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Re: Remote control extenders

Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:59 am

I have the exact situation. I've got my Tivo and a surge suppressor in my bedroom closet that is located directly behind my living room TV. For my wife, it was either a clean install or no TV at all. Put the IR receiver on top of the TV, and run the single wire back to the IR transmitter. Then run a single emitter out to whatever devices you want to deliver IR to. This one has all the wires that can be plugged in as necessary.

http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Infrared-Remote-Control-Repeater/dp/B004FJV8EE/ref=pd_cp_hi_2
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Re: Remote control extenders

Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:52 am

So you have to get up and go into a different room to put a new dvd in? Seems pretty retarded.
 
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Re: Remote control extenders

Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:37 pm

Nutmeg wrote:
So you have to get up and go into a different room to put a new dvd in? Seems pretty retarded.


No worries, I have no plans to invite you over. So you've got nothing to worry about.

Anyway, its like 4 steps. Maybe you're too out of shape to make that trip without resting, but I can manage.
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Re: Remote control extenders

Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:10 am

You seem mad.

Also, how do you fast forward or select a different menu option?
 
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Re: Remote control extenders

Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:52 am

Nutmeg wrote:
You seem mad.


Mad isn't the right word. You seem like a douche, and I'm not fond of douches. Maybe that's just a first impression, although I have this vague memory of having you on my ignore list at one point. Maybe not though, since I also don't remember taking you off my ignore list.

Nutmeg wrote:
Also, how do you fast forward or select a different menu option?


My DVD player is a PS3, and the PS3 remote works through the wall. Again though, not your concern since you've already passed your judgement on my setup.
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Re: Remote control extenders

Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:51 am

I used one of these for a few years and it worked fine http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... Id=2049642
 
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Re: Remote control extenders

Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:58 am

Over at Ramsey Electronics, check out the hobby kits:
http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bi ... n&key=RR1C
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Re: Remote control extenders

Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:05 am

I bought a set of these for the girlfriend a while ago, worked pretty well for accessing the cable box in her parents room, with the display feed split and sent to TV's in their, and her room: PowerMid XL Remote Control Extender PM10C. This is the UK amazon link, I guess you can get them your side...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PowerMid-XL-Con ... 774&sr=8-2
 
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Re: Remote control extenders

Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:13 am

Since this is all about TVs, I'm chucking it over to the Visual Haven like I should have done earlier.
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Re: Remote control extenders

Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:55 am

http://www.smarthome.com/83715/Channel-Vision-IR-5010-Plasma-Proof-IR-Kit/p.aspx

I have used a few of these and love them.. right now I have only two cable boxes and 3 LCD tv's . The TV in my garage is fed from the cable box in my bedroom. This allows me to change the channel without running to the other side of the house an hoping that I hit all the buttons right.It works without a problem,except i didn't get the plasma proof model and when the garage door is open the natural IR from the sun floods the reciever and it won't work.

edit: Oh yeah, and it's very discrete, it's not some Butt-Ugly pyramide. trying to make a statement...
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