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drfish wrote:Stop tempting me!
/Bender voice
drfish wrote:Of all the engineering problems Intel tackles, you'd think this would be one of the easiest... How is this a problem???
JBI wrote:making sure it gets done right raises production costs without generating any additional revenue.
The Egg wrote:....but as I've said elsewhere, if Kaby Lake only nets a few hundred Mhz in clockspeed, why bother? Just improve the quality control for TIM application and bam....same result.
As an alternative, they could both improve the TIM and get their clockspeed bump from Kaby, and end up with a more measurable improvement over Skylake. If anything, now would be the time to do it; when you don't have much to hang your hat on for selling the new lineup.
diademz wrote:@ermo, can you share the link which had MX4 performing well between IHS and CPU cooler? Why not Liquid Ultra here also?
just brew it! wrote:drfish wrote:Of all the engineering problems Intel tackles, you'd think this would be one of the easiest... How is this a problem???
99% of the CPUs they sell will be run at stock clocks. As long as they stay within their operating temperature range at stock clocks, even sloppily applied TIM is "good enough", and making sure it gets done right raises production costs without generating any additional revenue.
drfish wrote:Stop tempting me!
/Bender voice
diademz wrote:What a timely post! Got my 3770k in 2012, and it runs 4.4ghz and reaches a max temp of 80c with a CM612s in push-pull. Tried the razor method but chickened out...tempting tempting! Wondering how much I can squeeze out of it.
Need to get a vice and the TIMs though...
DPete27 wrote:Just curious, are most people re-installing the IHS or leaving the CPU die naked?
Waco wrote:DPete27 wrote:Just curious, are most people re-installing the IHS or leaving the CPU die naked?
I've done a G3258 and a 4770K so far (in addition to a bunch of Athlon64 and Opterons back in the day) but I've always re-installed the IHS on Intel chips. A coat of Coollab Liquid Ultra between the die an the IHS, plus a very small dab of sealant at the corners to keep the IHS in place. Placed wet into a socket to compress and dry.
Vhalidictes wrote:Interesting. I always though the point was to run without the IHS and use a socket shim.