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synthtel2 wrote:I've used it successfully with OEM keys since the Win10 free upgrade period expired, and it seems unlikely that that would have changed lately if it didn't for retail.
jmc2 wrote:Saw someone mention that they were able to
activate W10 with a W7 retail key a week ago.
So I tried mine in a VM and it worked!
It did not accept it at installation but did after W10 was installed.
Now I just hope I will be able to install the "retail" W10 in my next computer.
just brew it! wrote:I wonder if this is limited to retail keys... I have a couple of unused OEM keys.
maxxcool wrote:I found in a double re-install that my key i used on my media box will not work on anything but the media box now. I kind of expected it which is why is deliberately swapped them in the reinstall test.
Waco wrote:maxxcool wrote:I found in a double re-install that my key i used on my media box will not work on anything but the media box now. I kind of expected it which is why is deliberately swapped them in the reinstall test.
That can be solved with a call to Microsoft. Pain, but only about half an hour of it.
curtisb wrote:I can tell you from experience that if the Windows 7 key wasn't activated as Windows 7, your Windows 10 install will eventually go to an non-Activated state. I just had this happen on one of my machines at home. I'm going to try installing Windows 7 in a VM to active that key and see if it fixes the problem.
We can't activate Windows on this device as the previous version of Windows was not activated prior to upgrading to Windows 10. Go to the Store to buy genuine Windows. Error code: 0x803F7001
cheesyking wrote:A word of warning...
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Be sure to install and activate the OS you're upgrading on your hardware before doing an install of 10.
cheesyking wrote:A word of warning...
I just ran into a win10 machine that won't activate with an 8pro license:
"We can't activate Windows on this device because the previous version of Windows was not activated prior to upgrading to Windows 10. Go to the Store and buy a genuine Windows. Error code 0x803F7001"
This is indeed the case, the 8pro license came out of a retail box that had never been used. What's really annoying is that
A) It initially activated just fine and was in use for several months before this error popped up.
B) The upgrade was done during the upgrade period.
C) It's a genuine 8pro license and is retail not even OEM.
Anyhow I guess the lesson is that even if you have a 10 license today it might be gone tomorrow.
Be sure to install and activate the OS you're upgrading on your hardware before doing an install of 10.
just brew it! wrote:What makes you think it is not intentional? I could easily see MS arguing that since the offer was of a free upgrade for existing W7/W8 users, it only applies to activated licenses. If the license was never activated then it wasn't being used, therefore you're not an existing user!
Waco wrote:just brew it! wrote:What makes you think it is not intentional? I could easily see MS arguing that since the offer was of a free upgrade for existing W7/W8 users, it only applies to activated licenses. If the license was never activated then it wasn't being used, therefore you're not an existing user!
I guess I can see that perspective.
I strongly dislike Microsoft "logic" these days.
just brew it! wrote:Waco wrote:just brew it! wrote:What makes you think it is not intentional? I could easily see MS arguing that since the offer was of a free upgrade for existing W7/W8 users, it only applies to activated licenses. If the license was never activated then it wasn't being used, therefore you're not an existing user!
I guess I can see that perspective.
I strongly dislike Microsoft "logic" these days.
I tend to not worry about it much any more.
Aside from a potential gaming build on the horizon (keep meaning to get back into that, hence my interest in this issue...), MS and Windows have very little impact on me these days. I run Linux at home, and at work I run OS X and Linux (in VMs). I have to open an MS Office document at work maybe once or twice a month, and I occasionally need to troubleshoot other family members' Windows problems (but things have been mercifully quiet on that front for the past 6-12 months).
I can honestly say that there are many weeks where I do not interact directly with a Microsoft product at all. And when I do put together that gaming build, it is going to be strictly for entertainment purposes; I won't be relying on it for anything important.
curtisb wrote:That's the same message I had, and as my edit above shows, I was able to just enter the same product key again to re-activate the install. I've also updated the machine to the Creator's Update and it's still activated.
But I do agree that you're probably better off activating the key before hand if you're able to. It adds extra time, but would you rather spend time or money?