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jmc2
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Front usbs, W7ok W10-nope-SOLVED

Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:44 pm

Finally just went in to start installing all the usb drivers.
Fortunately the first one (Renesas) fixed it.

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Slowly getting my programs installed in W10-1709...Yuck.
But noticed the front USB connections that work in W7
are not working in W10.
Had to plug everything into the back usb connections.

All I can think is a missing device driver.
But I installed everything off the same optical disk for both W7,W10.

Guess I could go into each listed usb folder and make each one
install again for all the 3 party usb chips. Hope having drivers for
chips that are not there won't be a serious problem.

Gigabyte X399 Designare-EX
16 core Threadripper.

Thanks,
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:09 pm

Anything come up in device manager for scan for devices? How about all windows updates?
 
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:01 pm

The drivers on the optical disc that comes with the motherboard are pretty much always out of date. And the latest chipsets frequently need bios updates. Whenever I'm doing a new build I use the driver disc for its only best use -- as a coaster for my beer while I'm downloading the latest drivers onto a thumb drive.

Go to the Gigabyte support page for your mobo (I guess this is it, unless yours is not "Rev 1.0") and get the latest (note that there's a W10 chipset/USB driver dated 12/20).

Also, this goes without saying (except for all the times it doesn't) you're running completely stock frequencies and voltages, right?
 
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:18 am

"Anything come up in device manager for scan for devices? How about all windows updates?"
Device manager show nothing related to usb. I do have the WiFi turned off in there.
Windows Updates will be the last thing I do. I want get my X264 benchmarks done
before I let the latest security patches "maybe" mess everything up.
(having a lot of trouble getting VideoReDo Pro activated)

I did download the "W10-1709" labeled Dec20 chipset drivers
and they said there was nothing to install when I ran it which
seemed a bit odd.

Just looked and am downloading the other chipset/usb/sata Dec20 zip now.

Stock setting...yep. Don't overclock till I get a feel for what is normal.
Did just do the F2b 3Oct17 bios. Been waiting expecting
a NEW bios covering all the latest security uproar... but nothing yet.

Did run memtest. It wanted to do 4 passes. But at 2 hours a pass
I stopped at 1 pass that was error free. 3200 Ram running at around 2200ish.

I did set the voltage because it "auto" was ridiculous. When in the bios I was
seeing 3+ up to 4.8 volts and from what I've read that is flat out dangerous.
So I set 1.32 volts. It does vary but no 4+ volts happening.

The temp (memtest) was 80c. Going to replace the 1500 rpm fan
with a 3000 rpm fan. Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 140mm.

Thanks,
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:52 am

What is your computer case? I ask because you are using a U version of Noctua, and not a big D version.

It sounds like it's overheating. I mean, if I read your post correctly, while running memtest, your computer
1. runs at 80c just by running memtest.
2. after passing 4 passes, memtest push out an error.

What is your heating situation? I mean how many fans beside the cpu fan you have pulling air in and pushing air out?

Also, believe it or not, if you read my posts about a week ago, where my htpc/nas was overheating and running sluggish? it was because of the 2 raided seagate hdds. But that's beside the point.
My point was have you performed chkdsk or f s c k (linux) to check if your storage devices are still good?

tl;dr I suspect
1. overheating of mobo.
2. memory dimm died due to overheating
3. storage devices is dead/dying

In that order.
 
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:57 am

Darthutos wrote:
What is your computer case? I ask because you are using a U version of Noctua, and not a big D version.

It sounds like it's overheating. I mean, if I read your post correctly, while running memtest, your computer
1. runs at 80c just by running memtest.
2. after passing 4 passes, memtest push out an error.

The Noctua is the largest one for my 16 core Threadripper socket.
And is going to struggle to keep 16 cores coolish.
Memtest was run for only a single 2hour pass that was error free.

Yeah, I don't know at what temp the Threadripper starts to throttle.
Just hope I can get the air cooling to workout ok. 80c is not acceptable.
Cooling this is a work in progress...more fans/bigger fans.

Darthutos wrote:
What is your heating situation? I mean how many fans beside the cpu fan you have pulling air in and pushing air out?
tl;dr I suspect
1. overheating of mobo.
2. memory dimm died due to overheating
3. storage devices is dead/dying
In that order.

It is a full tower case that I'm still learning about how
much air flow it is going to need.
Default front 200mm and back 140 mm fans.
The Noctua heatsink is going to a 3000 rpm fan from the default 1500 rpm one.

Thanks,
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:29 pm

At this point I'd suggest taking a look at
1. Installation of heatsink (is it snug on the cpu, if you put your hand on the heat sink, can you move it back and forth or left and right? If so, the heatsink needs to be screwed on further/reinstall to make sure that they are indeed touching eachother.
2. Are are using thermal paste? This may seem like a dumb question, but stranger things have happened.
3. Are you sure the heat sink fan is spinning?
4. Dead dying mobo (One time my heatsink fan didn't move, and the heat killed a part of 9590 mobo so that the ethernet port died. I had to buy a ethernet card if I want to use the mobo.
 
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Re: Front usbs, W7-ok, W10 -nope

Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:14 pm

Darthutos wrote:
At this point I'd suggest taking a look at
1. Installation of heatsink (is it snug on the cpu, if you put your hand on the heat sink, can you move it back and forth or left and right? If so, the heatsink needs to be screwed on further/reinstall to make sure that they are indeed touching eachother.
2. Are are using thermal paste? This may seem like a dumb question, but stranger things have happened.
3. Are you sure the heat sink fan is spinning?
4. Dead dying mobo (One time my heatsink fan didn't move, and the heat killed a part of 9590 mobo so that the ethernet port died. I had to buy a ethernet card if I want to use the mobo.


Yeah, so much to check and test to get thing a right as possible.
I do have the Noctua on a thermal PAD and that will be changed to paste
once this is all sorted.
The first motherboard was bad and taking the Noctua off and cleaning all
that paste (so,so much paste!) was awful. Bought the silicone pad as I
was not doing that again.
My 2012 3930 6 core is still on it's original paste. Cpu may hit 60c at most.
Generally 50s C while encoding @ 4.3 Ghz.

Thanks for the thoughts
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