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EzioAs wrote:I don't think I'm in the minority but I've never had any problems gaming with the Creators Update (or Fall Creators Update). And yes, I know me sharing this might not be helpful, but I don't think the issue is the Creators Update itself, there could be thousands of other possible culprit.
LostCat wrote:It's usually MSI Afterburner or some other crapware people have installed.
Waco wrote:MSI Afterburner is pretty much anti-crapware IMO. It serves its purpose with aplomb and bundles no junk. Am I missing something? It's one of the first things I install if I'm doing any GPU tweaking...
Waco wrote:MSI Afterburner is pretty much anti-crapware IMO. It serves its purpose with aplomb and bundles no junk. Am I missing something? It's one of the first things I install if I'm doing any GPU tweaking...
DancinJack wrote:Honestly, I don't think it's (mostly) Windows FCU or CU causing the issues. There are unknown number of insane software installs on people's computers and surely there are conflicts. Surely some of the issues are Nvidia's driver issues. Some of them are poor (relatively) game optimization by game devs. This is just a part of gaming on the PC, especially if you don't have a juiced rig. That's life. Sure, there are things you can try to mitigate the issues, but trying to eliminate every single jitter or frame drop or high frametime just isn't going to be worth the time, money, nor frustration. Buy and install the hardware and software that you like and use, and result in what you want.
EzioAs wrote:I don't think I'm in the minority but I've never had any problems gaming with the Creators Update (or Fall Creators Update). And yes, I know me sharing this might not be helpful, but I don't think the issue is the Creators Update itself, there could be thousands of other possible culprit.
Waco wrote:MSI Afterburner is pretty much anti-crapware IMO. It serves its purpose with aplomb and bundles no junk. Am I missing something? It's one of the first things I install if I'm doing any GPU tweaking...
LostCat wrote:Waco wrote:MSI Afterburner is pretty much anti-crapware IMO. It serves its purpose with aplomb and bundles no junk. Am I missing something? It's one of the first things I install if I'm doing any GPU tweaking...
It has been known to cause problems with games in major Windows 10 updates. I don't know which ones offhand, because it's been a while.
I've never personally used it, but anything that impacts the base experience negatively goes into the crapware category to me.
Waco wrote:It's been known? That sounds like BS to me. The overlays have always been a little problematic (in that they don't work consistently in some modern games), but I refuse to believe there's anything there that would cause stuttering in games especially given that it's typically open when overclocking and benchmarking.
Aranarth wrote:I only seem to have issues with Bethesda software.
Both Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 work fine with solid 60fps and then after an hour slowly start getting more and more laggy till I save, close and restart the game then it is fine again.
I like the new windows 10 since it shows how much video ram is in use and it never seems to get above 3gig used on my 8gig card.
Doom and Wolfenstein work just fine and never display any issues like this.
I've done lots of research and tried several things with no clear fix for it.
Aranarth wrote:I only seem to have issues with Bethesda software.
Both Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 work fine with solid 60fps and then after an hour slowly start getting more and more laggy till I save, close and restart the game then it is fine again.
I like the new windows 10 since it shows how much video ram is in use and it never seems to get above 3gig used on my 8gig card.
LostCat wrote:Waco wrote:It's been known? That sounds like BS to me. The overlays have always been a little problematic (in that they don't work consistently in some modern games), but I refuse to believe there's anything there that would cause stuttering in games especially given that it's typically open when overclocking and benchmarking.
Perhaps it wasn't stuttering, just other things. I'm not actually sure at this point. - https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comm ... e_and_msi/
But as I said, I don't know. I rarely install OEM crap because it's more likely to cause problems than solve them.
EzioAs wrote:Isn't this normal with Skyrim/Fallout especially if you have mods installed?
G8torbyte wrote:I've had an issue since the Fall 2017 Creators update where my NVidia Control Panel will disappear after a new driver install and manual reboot. It shows immediately after the driver install and opens but then goes away after the next reboot disappearing from the right-click pop-up window on the desktop and missing on the bottom taskbar. It still shows as an icon in the Windows Control Panel but does not open. I've researched a lot of forums and read where many are experiencing similar issues but I've yet to find a fix. Clean re-installs, driver roll backs, turning on/off NVidia's services in the task manager, using the Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) tool were what most recommend but nothing sticks in my case. I've given up which is rare since I can usually troubleshoot these kind of issues. It is a minor nuisance since I'll adjust my NVidia settings before the next reboot and everything seems OK. I have not seen any negative effects in games except I do get flickering in Skyrim but I figure it is due to all the texture/environment mods I loaded onto the original version, not the SE. I use Win10 Pro with a GTX1080.
edit: To clarify it is after I manually reboot. The NVidia Control Panel operates fine up until the next restart.