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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:16 pm

F@H's server stats show them assigning 100,000 units an hour, but neither of my machines has had anything to work on in the past seven or eight hours. Interestingly enough, the team's throughput is holding pretty steady.
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com ... ?s=&t=2630

P.S.: They're up to 120,000 assignments per hour on Tuesday morning, but my three clients (2 GPUs + 1 Ryzen) have seen a total of two work units in the past 15 hours.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:10 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
F@H's server stats show them assigning 100,000 units an hour, but neither of my machines has had anything to work on in the past seven or eight hours. Interestingly enough, the team's throughput is holding pretty steady.
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com ... ?s=&t=2630

P.S.: They're up to 120,000 assignments per hour on Tuesday morning, but my three clients (2 GPUs + 1 Ryzen) have seen a total of two work units in the past 15 hours.


From what I can tell, I have now gone 24 hours without a work unit. I'm going to start shutting down at night and wait a bit to see if the servers can catch up. Otherwise, there's no point in my keeping my workstation running all night.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:54 am

It is crazy that there aren't nearly enough WUs to go around. I don't think this ever happened before with Folding@home project prior to the COVID19 outbreak and coincidental shutdown of SETI@Home project.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:45 am

When not crunching on work units, the idle power usage of my PCs is impressively low, so leaving them on isn’t a problem.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:02 am

I've run 24/7/365 for at least the past decade.
What we have today is way too much pluribus and not enough unum.
 
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:11 am

Well, that escalated quickly.
F@H just broke the exaFLOP barrier. Now larger than the top 100 supercomputers in the world combined.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:31 am

I guess that's why I still can't get work units. I hope they can get that fixed.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:37 am

DPete27 wrote:
Well, that escalated quickly.
F@H just broke the exaFLOP barrier. Now larger than the top 100 supercomputers in the world combined.


Sweet mother of mercy. That's an insane amount of aggregated computing output.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:36 am

My F@H clients are definitely spending more time idle than crunching. If that persists, I may idle the RX Vega64 during the hours that I am at home. Although folding and gaming have allowed me to again tweak this card’s settings for better performance, the noise of the stock blower is sometimes a bit too distracting. The other machine just hums along at a very tolerable noise level.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:48 am

I'd like to get back into folding for TR. It's been forever since I've done this, though. Could somebody send me the team number and passkey and any other info I need?
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:02 pm

Just realized I've been folding without the passkey and whatnot.

I had just added Team 2630 thinking that was enough. I just started folding last week but have already earned 1.5 million points, with probably 95+% of that coming from my RTX 2080 (I limited my CPU folding slot to 2 threads because F@H has exposed to me the fact that my overclock is not stable and I don't have time to fix it ATM).

Points earned
1,500,102(See stats)
777,217 go to Team The Tech Report's total of 14,674,793,766.


Can somebody send me all of the info needed to make sure I am optimally getting points to the Frankenbot?

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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:09 pm

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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:05 pm

A couple of clarifications:
  1. You can use your own ID and join The Tech Report team (id: 2630) to contribute your points to overall TR
  2. Only if you want to fold under the name TRFrankenbot as an aggregate entity (still under TR) that you need a passkey

Side note: if you have been idling for long but still want to contribute to the science, you can join Rosetta@Home (a project under the BOINC client) as they are also crunching WUs related to the virus. The COVID-19 ones seem to be CPU only WUs, but at least you can get some calculations done and help out. When you sign up, you can optionally choose to join Tech Report 2630 to give some credit to the team as well.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:43 pm

Flying Fox wrote:
A couple of clarifications:
  1. You can use your own ID and join The Tech Report team (id: 2630) to contribute your points to overall TR
  2. Only if you want to fold under the name TRFrankenbot as an aggregate entity (still under TR) that you need a passkey

Side note: if you have been idling for long but still want to contribute to the science, you can join Rosetta@Home (a project under the BOINC client) as they are also crunching WUs related to the virus. The COVID-19 ones seem to be CPU only WUs, but at least you can get some calculations done and help out. When you sign up, you can optionally choose to join Tech Report 2630 to give some credit to the team as well.


Ah -- thanks! I was a little confused.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:29 am

Krogoth wrote:
DPete27 wrote:
Well, that escalated quickly.
F@H just broke the exaFLOP barrier. Now larger than the top 100 supercomputers in the world combined.


Sweet mother of mercy. That's an insane amount of aggregated computing output.
Has it delivered anything worthwhile?
 
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:55 pm

Newer coronavirus related projects are coming out. I just received this project recently as a work unit:

"Project 16404
This project is simulating the Nucleoprotein RNA-binding domain of SARS-CoV-2. More details incoming!
This project is managed by at Washington University in St. Louis.
Sukrit is a Biophysics PhD student in Greg Bowman's lab at Washington University in St. Louis."

Previously I received a lot of projects from Temple University which was a mix of simulations in cancer and protein studies for various diseases with some COVID-19 related work.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:49 pm

Vrock wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
DPete27 wrote:
Well, that escalated quickly.
F@H just broke the exaFLOP barrier. Now larger than the top 100 supercomputers in the world combined.


Sweet mother of mercy. That's an insane amount of aggregated computing output.
Has it delivered anything worthwhile?


Outside of papers for pure research, nothing concrete. That's just the nature of scientific research.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:10 pm

Seems like there's a massive problem with points reporting. I completed a 59k point WU yesterday at 8PM and it's not even showing up. And that's assuming I was the only one to complete a WU in that 3 hour timeframe. Not that it matters.....but it's fun to get points.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:44 pm

Yeah I imagine there's a lot of stuff like that which is getting pushed out into the daylight from whatever hiding place it had. The Folding@Home people couldn't have asked for better stress testing. :lol:
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:54 am

I'm still having problems getting work units. I'm getting passed up by everyone because I can't get any work.

I was doing pretty well, too.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:33 pm

Seems I'm picking up more projects from Washington University, St Louis now:
"CORONAVIRUS PROJECT
Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19 causing virus) protease - potential drug target
These are high-priority **CPU** projects to simulate the main protease of the COVID-19. At the time of release, this is the latest news report: https://foldingathome.org/2020/03/10/covid19-update/
Please stay tuned to https://foldingathome.org/news/ for more current updates.
This project is managed by at Washington University in St. Louis.
Neha is a postdoc at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis in Greg Bowman's lab."
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:45 pm

FYI, the following lists are the project series Temple University is managing through F@H related to the COVID-19 efforts:

"These projects are CPU projects to simulate COVID-19 proteins to learn about their dynamics and function. These supplement high-priority GPU projects of the main protease as well as the COVID-19 receptor binding domains. All can be considered potential drug targets.

14300 series
14328 - Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 main protease in complex with an inhibitor N3 (PDBID: 6lu7)
14329 - Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 main protease in complex with an inhibitor N3 (PDBID: 6lu7)
14332 - SARS coronavirus spike receptor-binding domain complexed with its receptor ACE2 (PDB: 2ajf)
14333 - SARS-CoV-2 RBD domain in complex with human neutralizing S230 antibody Fab fragment (PDBs: 6nb8, 2ghv) [http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2018.12.028]
14334 - SARS-CoV-2 RBD domain in complex with human neutralizing S230 antibody Fab fragment (PDBs: 6nb8, 2ghv) [http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2018.12.028]
14335 - SARS-CoV-2 RBD domain in complex with human neutralizing S230 antibody Fab fragment (PDBs: 6nb8, 2ghv) [http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2018.12.028]
14336 -SARS-CoV-2 RBD domain in complex with human ACE2 receptor (PDB: 6vsb, 6acg)
14337 - FEP screening of Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 main protease in complex with potential inhibitors (100_Ligands)
14338 - FEP screening of Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 main protease in complex with potential inhibitors (100_Ligands)
14339 - FEP screening of potential protease inhibitors in solution (100_Ligands)
14340 - clone of 14332
14341 - clone of 14333
14342 - clone of 14334
14343 - clone of 14335
14344 - clone of 14336
14345 - clone of 14338
14346 - FEP screening of Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 main protease in complex with potential inhibitors (7 fragment hits)
14347 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (7 fragment hits)
14348 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (7 fragment hits)
14349 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 1-100)
14350 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 101-200)
14351 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 201-300)
14352 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 301-400)
14353 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 401-500)
14354 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 501-600)
14355 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 601-700)
14356 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 701-800)
14357 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 801-900)
14358 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 901-1000)
14359 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 1001-1100)
14360 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 1101-1200)
14361 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (72_L 1201-1300)
14363 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (MOONSHOT 1-500 LR)
14364 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in solution (MOONSHOT 1-500 L)

14600 series - "72"

14600 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 1-100)
14601 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 101-200)
14602 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 201-300)
14603 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 301-400)
14604 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 401-500)
14605 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 501-600)
14606 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 601-700)
14607 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 701-800)
14608 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 801-900)
14609 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 901-1000)
14610 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 1001-1100)
14611 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 1101-1200)
14612 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (72_RL 1201-1300)

14600 series - "AGG"

14613 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 1-500)
14620 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 501-1000)
14621 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 1001-1500)
14622 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 1501-2000)
14623 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 2001-2500)
14624 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 2501-3000)
14625 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 3001-3500)
14626 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 3501-4000)
14627 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 4001-4500)
14628 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 4501-5000)
14629 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 5001-5500)
14630 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 5501-6000)
14631 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 6001-6500)
14632 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 6501-7000)
14633 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 7001-7500)
14634 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 7501-8000)
14635 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 8001-8500)
14636 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 8501-9000)
14637 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 9001-9500)
14638 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 9501-10000)
14639 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 10001-10500)
14640 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 10501-11000)
14641 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 11001-11500)
14642 - FEP screening of protease inhibitors in complex (AGG_RL 11501-12000)
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:28 am

I'm in! I won't be running it 24/7, but while I'm not in the office I see no reason why I can't put some spare hardware to use. The gaming machine has an i7 6700k and an RTX 2070, so that should be a decent addition to the horde. :P

When I installed the client last night it seemed to have no trouble picking up a work unit, so either I got lucky, or those problems are starting to work themselves out.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:05 pm

Picked up this project this morning:
"Project 13862
Disease Type: covid-19
This is a SARS2-nCoV-2 protein. It's called the 3CL-PRO, or the 3CL-like proteinase. It turns out that the virus actually generates all its proteins as one giant "polyprotein" and then chops the protein up to let them be free. Lots of viruses do this. (If you've heard of "protease inhibitors" as part of HIV treatment, it's because HIV also does this, and in HIV, that protease is a drug target!) It cleaves the C-terminus of replicase polyprotein at 11 sites. Recognizes substrates containing the core sequence [ILMVF]-Q-|-[SGACN]. Also able to bind an ADP-ribose-1'- phosphate (ADRP).
This project is managed by at Washington University in St. Louis.
Justin is an MD/PhD student at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis in Greg Bowman's lab."

Looks like more doctoral students are shifting to study the protease inhibition.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:16 pm

Redocbew wrote:
I'm in! I won't be running it 24/7, but while I'm not in the office I see no reason why I can't put some spare hardware to use. The gaming machine has an i7 6700k and an RTX 2070, so that should be a decent addition to the horde. :P

When I installed the client last night it seemed to have no trouble picking up a work unit, so either I got lucky, or those problems are starting to work themselves out.


It seems to be hit or miss. My video card seems to be doing okay getting work units, but my CPU has been idle all day. I guess it's a good problem for Stanford to have, although I'm getting passed like I'm sitting still.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:04 pm

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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:26 pm

https://foldingathome.org/2020/04/03/ca ... in-action/
Understanding how the spike opens up to engage the ACE2 protein could be extremely useful. Every step along the way could potentially be targeted with therapeutics. Unfortunately, there is no way to watch a spike undergo this transition, at least with existing experimental techniques. Data on what the open state even looks like is also limited.

To overcome this limitation, we are using computer simulations to watch the COVID-19 Demogorgon open its mouth. To do this, we are using a two-stage process. In the first stage, we use an algorithm called FAST adaptive sampling that allows us to focus simulations on capturing specific structural changes, like the opening of the spike. While we can see these processes, it’s often still hard to say how long each stage of the process takes. Such information is valuable because long-lived steps are generally better therapeutic targets. To get that information, we then take representative structures from different stages of the opening process and start thousands of simulations on the Folding@home distributed computing platform. These simulations let us identify additional structures of the protein, determine the relative lifetimes of all the different structures, and prioritize them for drug development.

Both steps are extremely computationally expensive. If you tried to simulate the opening of the spike on your home computer, you’d be lucky to see even part of the process within the next 100 years. Even with the reasonably powerful computer cluster we run at the Washington University School of Medicine, we’d be hard put to capture this event. Needless to say, none of us wants to wait that long for a COVID-19 treatment to be developed.

Fortunately, we have reinforcements! Over the past three weeks, over 700K citizen scientists have joined the Folding@home project. This 20-fold increase in participation has given us unprecedented compute power to bring to bear on COVID-19. In fact, Folding@home is the first computer to achieve the exaFLOPS scale and is now estimated to be more powerful than the next top 100 supercomputers combined.

We have also established a number of collaborations with industry. For example, John Kahan, Chief Data Analytics Officer and AI for Health lead at Microsoft, shares our vision, saying, “The scale and size of the current global pandemic requires a collaborative approach between companies, non-profits, governments, scientists, and clinicians. We are glad to be able to support the Folding@home project through Washington University School of Medicine in the acceleration of COVID-19 related research using Azure cloud resources.” By joining forces with the AI for Health and Azure teams at Microsoft, we’ve been able to bring significantly more compute power to bear on the first stage of our simulations. They’re also helping us host additional servers to better serve the Folding@home community.

Of course, please bear in mind that this work is at the bleeding edge of science. We’re throwing everything we’ve got at COVID-19, but we can’t say for sure if/when our work will lead to treatments.
My systems are still spending 80% of the time waiting for work units.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:26 am

Rosetta@Home side is also running out of WUs. They are planning to add capacity soon.

Also, WCG announces that they will be adding a COVID-19 related project "soon" (it's been a week and they are not fast enough to take advantage of all the exposure). Right now I have configured R@H to be my primary and WCG only as "backup" (Project weight=0, kind of like an idle setting). Once the WCG subproject comes online I may switch to 50-50.

Does anyone know if F@H has CPU WUs for the virus research or are they all GPU-based?
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:11 am

That was in the 3/30 update. They rolled out a huge number of CPU-only units for a new kind of simulation. My R5 3600X crunches through these at a rate of 110k points per day with 10 threads, when work units are available.
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Re: TRFrankenbot for COVID-19

Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:54 pm

For a while, I was getting mostly video card WUs and my CPU was idle. That reversed a couple of days ago. I can't get any video card WUs, but the CPU work units have been coming in regularly. Of course, I don't get many points for CPU units. Sigh.
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