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Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:11 am

Get 'em while they're hot!

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

Enjoy!
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:33 am

Nice one! To my considerable surprise, the x64 version is coming down at a steady 4MB/sec on my work connection.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:58 pm

Microsoft has a lot of bandwidth, and doesn't throttle it. I've never seen a "slow" download of anything directly from MS.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:59 pm

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Microsoft has a lot of bandwidth, and doesn't throttle it. I've never seen a "slow" download of anything directly from MS.

Except when they release their patches and the entire world tries to update at the same time! :P
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:25 pm

I'm trying to get it up and running in a generic x64 OS in VMware Workstation 8. After going through the initial setup it rebooted. Then I got this

http://i.imgur.com/yuyE0.jpg

My first FFoD or "Frowny Face of Death."

I'm going to try it again using the Windows 7 x64 defaults. After that it's off to virtualbox to see if it's a compatibility issue.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:38 pm

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I'm trying to get it up and running in a generic x64 OS in VMware Workstation 8. After going through the initial setup it rebooted. Then I got this

http://i.imgur.com/yuyE0.jpg

My first FFoD or "Frowny Face of Death."

I'm going to try it again using the Windows 7 x64 defaults. After that it's off to virtualbox to see if it's a compatibility issue.

Stupid frowny face... poor attempt at humor. what kind of car is that in your desktop background image?
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:41 pm

Downloading at work - hopefully I can find some time soon to check it out on an extra box :)
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:28 pm

thegleek wrote:
LaChupacabra wrote:
I'm trying to get it up and running in a generic x64 OS in VMware Workstation 8. After going through the initial setup it rebooted. Then I got this

http://i.imgur.com/yuyE0.jpg

My first FFoD or "Frowny Face of Death."

I'm going to try it again using the Windows 7 x64 defaults. After that it's off to virtualbox to see if it's a compatibility issue.

Stupid frowny face... poor attempt at humor. what kind of car is that in your desktop background image?



It's a complete rebuild of a 67 Fastback. It's a fantastic looking thing. It's full story (and more pics!) can be found here:

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I did get Windows 8 up and running in VMware. You have to select the Windows 7 x64 defaults and "Install the operating system later." This prevents VMware from trying to run an unattended install (which must be different between Windows 8 and 7). So far it seems ok. I try not to judge these kind of things until I've used them for a while. I can say that installing 3rd party apps isn't any more difficult than on any other version of Windows. Also it is really weird not seeing a start button.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:32 pm

installed 64bit version on my laptop and right after first reboot started crashing and freezing. vista is coming back under a different name
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:40 pm

And the unpaid alpha testers keep lining up.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:48 pm

Can i install this on my sig machine.I am talking a full install on a esata drive.Thats one thing i have never done dual boot. a simple walkthrough would be appreciated.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:49 pm

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It's a complete rebuild of a 67 Fastback. It's a fantastic looking thing. It's full story (and more pics!) can be found here:

http://67mustangblog.com/2008/02/richards-815hp-1967-shelby-super-snake-eleanor-mustang/

Awesome!

LaChupacabra wrote:
I did get Windows 8 up and running in VMware. You have to select the Windows 7 x64 defaults and "Install the operating system later." This prevents VMware from trying to run an unattended install (which must be different between Windows 8 and 7). So far it seems ok. I try not to judge these kind of things until I've used them for a while. I can say that installing 3rd party apps isn't any more difficult than on any other version of Windows. Also it is really weird not seeing a start button.

Awesome! Now I'm waiting to hear from ANYONE who installed this using Oracle's VIRTUALBOX... plz?
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:51 pm

I put it into Virtualbox 4.1.8. Works. Doesn't do 3D accel, or if it does it's really slow.

At least it works, though; I can't get this to install into VMware Player 4.0.2 and successfully boot from the HD image, even installed as "Other 64-bit".
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:56 pm

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I put it into Virtualbox 4.1.8. Works. Doesn't do 3D accel, or if it does it's really slow.

32bit? 64bit? how much hdd space did u give the VDI? any other settings?
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:57 pm

64-bit. I gave it the default 20GB of drive, 2GB RAM, enabled virtualization features and PAE/NX, left it as default Win8 profile otherwise.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:14 pm

bthylafh wrote:
64-bit. I gave it the default 20GB of drive, 2GB RAM, enabled virtualization features and PAE/NX, left it as default Win8 profile otherwise.


enabled virtualization features and PAE/NX must be my issue.

Tried it at work in Virtualbox, Virtual PC and VMware. I work machine sucks.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:23 pm

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64-bit. I gave it the default 20GB of drive, 2GB RAM, enabled virtualization features and PAE/NX, left it as default Win8 profile otherwise.
20GB might be a little tight, depending on what you want to do. I installed it onto a 40GB SSD and it ended up right at 20GB, including a 5GB PageFile -- but note that's after deleting the hyberfile the install creates by default, which on a 2GB VM would be 1.5GB (75% of "installed" RAM). I did install the dev tools as well, which is another couple of GB with all the assets and samples.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:32 pm

Virtualbox's video driver doesn't work so well yet. As mentioned, it's slow and it also doesn't automagically resize the VM's screen resolution when you drag the window border around, and it only supports 1024x768 and 1154x864.

Maybe I could export the Virtualbox VM into OVF format and thence import it into VMware; perhaps it'd boot successfully then, and someone on Ars Technica's forums said he'd gotten the VMware tools to install by running the installer in Win7 compatibility mode.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:02 pm

So...I have to share this story with someone. I was testing out the Remote Desktop in Windows 8 and not having a second computer in this room, I decided to remote into the host machine (the one running VMware). It worked, for a brief second. Then the host machine immediately locks me out of it because of an active remote desktop connection. When I realized exactly what I had just done I lost it, went and grabbed a glass of water, and decided to live my shame in public. So here's the protip:

Don't RDP into your host machine from a VM. The host machine will immediately lock you and you will feel like an idiot.


As far as the usability of Windows 8, so far is a massive letdown. In a few days I'm going to try hooking up a second monitor and seeing if it will let me split metro on one display and the standard desktop on the other. Maybe then it will start to make some sense.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:48 pm

That's actually pretty funny. Falling down the rabbit hole of recursive RDPs and VMs would be funnier, of course.
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In a few days I'm going to try hooking up a second monitor and seeing if it will let me split metro on one display and the standard desktop on the other. Maybe then it will start to make some sense.
That's the setup you're going to get whether you want it or not, I think. I have two displays and WIN8 set itself up as a spanned desktop*, but Metro restricts itself to the primary display and the Windows desktop shows up on the secondary, peeking out from behind Metro's skirts. What's really interesting is that there's a duplicate taskbar on the secondary display, which is really handy -- though it looks a little weird when you drop the primary display into the normal desktop also (the tray notifications and clock aren't on the secondary taskbar but are on the primary).

^ There's actually a Winkey+P shortcut that gives a Metro-fied UI for switching between the various multi-display modes, but there's only one option for "extending" the desktop and it gives the behavior I described.

But honestly, I've just spent much of the afternoon using this exactly like a Win7 machine with almost no sign of Metro at all. Which depending on how you look at it is either a profound failure or a resounding relief.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:37 am

FAIL on my part. Was able to get a fresh install in VMware Player by telling it to let me install the OS later, but setting for Win7 x64 settings as a previous poster noted.

Use this instead of VirtualBox right now. The video is a hell of a lot faster and smoother, and resizing works.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:54 am

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FAIL on my part. Was able to get a fresh install in VMware Player by telling it to let me install the OS later, but setting for Win7 x64 settings as a previous poster noted.

Use this instead of VirtualBox right now. The video is a hell of a lot faster and smoother, and resizing works.

I don't use VMware Player. I only have VMware Workstation v7.1.5 installed (we haven't purchased our v8 keys yet). Will these Win8 images work with Workstation v7.x?
 
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Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:15 am

No idea. Why don't you try and report back.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:31 am

O. M. G. There is /no/ way I'm going to put this on any of my users' desktops or laptops when it becomes available.

I'm sure they'll do a lot of polishing between now and then, but my reaction after a couple hours' use is URGE TO KILL RISING.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:36 pm

FYI-

They just released Visual Studio 11 Beta on MSDN yesterday/today!

ZOMG SO EXCITED!!!
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:19 pm

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FYI- They just released Visual Studio 11 Beta on MSDN

Anyone install this yet? use it? reviews? comments?

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No idea. Why don't you try and report back.

Too lazy. I downloaded all the iso images. still didn't have the time to bother with loading it up yet. :-?
 
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FYI- They just released Visual Studio 11 Beta on MSDN

Anyone install this yet? use it? reviews? comments?

yes. Vast improvements over Visual Studio 2010 in many, many ways.
but the lack of a theme with color icons makes it terribly annoying.

project round-tripping between Visual Studio 11 and 2010 is fully supported, so you can take it for a test spin with existing projects without going through the project upgrade process.

You can now drill down into types within solution explorer. Using the context menu, you can find all references, view call hierarchy, ect. directly from solution explorer.

They added several more search boxes but this time it seems like they're actually a big improvement. There is a search / command bar up top right that you can use to find all menu items and execute commands / change settings.
Solution explorer has a search to find files / types within files. The error box has a search to trim down build errors and also a filter.... huge plus.

The thing I'm most excited about is the preview tab/ pinned tabs. When debugging all of the files you step into will open in a "preview tab". If you care about the file you can promote by pinning.. otherwise stepping through more code into another file will open the next file in the same tab. It will be nice to do debugging on complex issues without having 100 files open by the time you find where the real problem is.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:56 am

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Microsoft has a lot of bandwidth, and doesn't throttle it. I've never seen a "slow" download of anything directly from MS.

Actually, my experience is that they do throttle repeated or several consecutive downloads (experienced on MSDN). Downloading one thing won't trigger it. Downloading it several times in a row, or several things in a row, probably will.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

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Actually, my experience is that they do throttle repeated or several consecutive downloads (experienced on MSDN). Downloading one thing won't trigger it. Downloading it several times in a row, or several things in a row, probably will.
Interesting. I don't recall seeing that myself, but maybe I just haven't noticed. (In fact I downloaded the Win8 image, the VS11 image, and then the VS10 image and the 7Phone SDK in quick succession a couple of weeks ago without noticing it). Would make sense for them to do that, though.
 
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview ISO images

Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:54 pm

Buub wrote:
UberGerbil wrote:
Microsoft has a lot of bandwidth, and doesn't throttle it. I've never seen a "slow" download of anything directly from MS.

Actually, my experience is that they do throttle repeated or several consecutive downloads (experienced on MSDN). Downloading one thing won't trigger it. Downloading it several times in a row, or several things in a row, probably will.


Remember when the Longhorn beta was first put up? Weren't there a few articles about Microsoft throttling bandwidth because "we would have slowed down the rest of the internet" with the amount of people downloading it?

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