If you don't create anything electronically then there is no benefit to buying a PC over a console.
SPOOFE wrote:More mental gymnastics. Games games games. These are fun toys for entertainment. Anything other than that is essentially desperate hunting for justification for an otherwise unjustifiable personal preference, which itself is just a manifestation of insecurity.
SPOOFE wrote:[quoteMore mental gymnastics. Games games games. These are fun toys for entertainment. Anything other than that is essentially desperate hunting for justification for an otherwise unjustifiable personal preference, which itself is just a manifestation of insecurity.
SPOOFE wrote:The console world, on the other hand, has all sorts of churn and shifting and dozens of developers moving boatloads of product. There's no inherent, magic reason for this; that's just how trends have played out, and that discussion is likely to be a fascinating one, but certainly not with whiners moping about how "consolitis" ruined their marriages and gave them bad teeth.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:Your company is horribly mismanaged and you are under-worked. Enjoy it while it lasts.Why do I sit at my job and type this crap instead of working? I do it because there is no reason not to. I get my pay I am well received by my management and co-workers my work is done in a timely fashion. I got my bonus last year.
Vrock wrote:kamikaziechameleon wrote:Your company is horribly mismanaged and you are under-worked. Enjoy it while it lasts.Why do I sit at my job and type this crap instead of working? I do it because there is no reason not to. I get my pay I am well received by my management and co-workers my work is done in a timely fashion. I got my bonus last year.
SPOOFE wrote:consoles have to be setup.
I don't have to "explore" how to plug in two cables or press X a bunch of times. It was patently obvious. Digging through an .ini file is NOT patently obvious.
TDIdriver wrote:This thread is troll-bait.
SPOOFE wrote:Recall that the supposed source of contention between the console and PC crowds is the alleged phenomenon of "consolitis", in which "consoles" are somehow doing something bad to "PCs" somehow, somehow, somehow. I broke this whole thing down earlier in the thread (and in a few other threads).
kamikaziechameleon wrote:I'm trying to figure out how to break down the layers of complex history/marketing/design/etc. to you without wasting too much of my time.
The only PC games where I've had to dig through a .ini are ridiculously crappy ports, which have been in turn caused by consolization. For instance, Rage.
**** son, how can you keep thinking this?
I personally saw you try to rationalize how consolization doesn't exist
Consolization IS a real thing, it's a fact of life, it's why we've been stuck in this same niche of boring games for the last 7 or so years
Consoles ARE detrimental to gaming as a whole
They cause game developers to aim for the same exact baseline not just in terms of graphical fidelity, but also gameplay and quality in general.
Shut. The. ****. Up. Millions and millions of people everyday say **** you when it comes to what you think is detrimental to gaming. And that's what really pisses you off. You're the minority. Like any minority, you feel the system should be forced to see things your way. Well, too **** bad. See, consoles wouldn't exist if they weren't popular, and games for them wouldn't exist if people didn't think they were fun and buy them. If PC games were really the bee's knees, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now, and you could go back to masturbating to your gay midget porn collection on your 3 TB external hard drive.Consoles ARE detrimental to gaming as a whole
PC gaming is like fine dining.
SPOOFE wrote:That's right, just the other day, I was at a five-star restaurant, and when my filet mignon stuffed with lobster showed up, I had to open the .ini file and spend six hours tweaking settings, and then I had to go to a whole 'nother restaurant to download some mods to really get the meal how I like it.PC gaming is like fine dining.
So you'd had the meal before?
I would rewrite that phrase you quoted to be something like "Console gameing is like eating out and PC gaming is like cooking a meal yourself".
I'm not sure what your experience has been, but of the last 50-odd PC games I've played, all but three have loaded up and played just fine from the start.
The console experience is simpler and more straightforward than PC
SPOOFE wrote:Yes, I've played PC games before.
SPOOFE wrote:It's funny that you post such a weak analogy immediately after lambasting a weak analogy. Why can't we say "console gaming is like gaming and PC gaming is like gaming"? How on earth have you people so consistently missed the equivocation I've been making this whole thread?
SPOOFE wrote:You haven't been paying attention to this thread. Customizing, tweaking, mods, .ini files, and the like have all been touted as MAJOR PLUSSES for PC gaming by the PC acolyte crowd. It's absolutely senseless to use their arguments in criticism of mine.
SPOOFE wrote:Jambe wrote:The console experience is simpler and more straightforward than PC
danny e. wrote:Console gameing is like fast food and PC gaming is like fine dining.
Sure, Vrock is right.. america is full of idiots eating at McDonalds and Arbys. But some of us like real food. Food with a soul rather than fat layered fat.
Even I, sometimes whip through Burger King or some such if I'm in a rush but this happens about once or twice a year... and if you really want something that tastes good, you're not going there. Why then do the fast food places still exist? Because they're popular. Exactly like consoles. It's easy. 12 year olds with ADD can figure out 6 buttons.
There are some games like racing games, tennis, ect that I'd much rather play on a console. FPS, though, is steak. And fast food places don't serve steak.
So, in closing, the millions of people stuffing their face at McDonalds will probably never care that there are places you can buy and eat real food.
It doesn't pay to try to convince them that real food is better than the crap they eat. Fact of the matter is, Vrock is right and the majority like that crap or it wouldn't be selling.
SPOOFE, I haven't read the rest of this thread, but I'm going to say here right now that editing settings, beyond what the powers that be thought necessary to include in the game's menu, really does help to improve the PC gaming experience.
So you went in knowing what to expect, and you were mad about it afterwards.
Your analogy was just as weak as danny e.'s
I was agreeing with you that his analogy was weak and actually supporting your own crappy analogy by trying to make it more applicable. Haha!
I have been paying attention, actually.
So... is that the end of it
or are you implying that simpler gaming platforms are better than complicated ones?
SPOOFE wrote:I don't know what you think you're arguing at this point, but it isn't video games. I don't know where you got "mad" from. Please stop making up fictional things that I never said and then attributing it to me.
SPOOFE wrote:I DO NOT THINK one is "better" than the other, and I have consistently stated as such.
I'm not mad
you can't follow a simple quote string that my eight-yo nephew could decipher.
Yeah, we're in agreement there.
SPOOFE wrote:Neither am I. Yet you're the one that accused me of being "mad". I asked you where you got this notion and all of a sudden I get to experience you projecting your moral shortcomings on to me.
SPOOFE wrote:Pure comedy.
SPOOFE wrote:So you're just trolling.
For the third time now, I was talking about your analogy
Am to infer that, in your analogy, you were actually happy because you "had to open the .ini file and spend six hours tweaking settings, and then had to go to a whole 'nother restaurant to download some mods to really get the meal how [you] like it"?
It is indeed comical that you take a direct reference to your own silly analogies personally.
I don't hate you.
Ah, right, I find something you posted objectionable, therefore I am a troll.