Forge wrote:So much sociopathic fraud! I feel right at home!
Arclight - Please sell me something via the Bargain Basement. I'll pay via Paypal. After I receive the item, I will claim it was broken, then substitute a poorly remarked broken fake version. Then I'll dispute the charges via Paypal and get a refund. Finally, if you beg just so and pay shipping, I'll send you the broken remarked device.
It's TOTALLY fair, right?
I've taken things to a farther extreme to illustrate the point, but why in Gord's name would the mobo vendor be on the hook for pins YOU BENT? They are liable because the products they resell aren't invulnerable??
Arclight wrote:Is he an evil guy standing in a chair rubbing his cat and making plans for world domination?
Arclight wrote:Deanjo wrote:Arclight wrote:Wooowwwww
People get away with murder, other fraud institution of millions of dollars and none see a day in prison and you guys can't take advantage of warranty for something you paid. Am i being punked?
Warranties cover manufacturer defects, not defective morals. But way to go admitting you are a liar and sacrificing your integrity.
Somehow i doubt your actions belie your belifes. But as there is no evidence you can bring forth i can draw no conclusion.
Arclight wrote:it's stated in the warranty that the product, the package and accesories must be in good shape and vandable upon return.
i never said that, you're misreading my posts. If you read my posts again you will see i said the product must be returned in good shape, with all accesories...bla bla bla.
It's not my fault if the law allows me to bend it to my will, matter of fact that's what all of us should do.
Welch wrote:Odd, I've built/replaced about 4 Intel systems (1155 and 775) in the past month and never realized that bending the pins in the socket was that easy
cynan wrote:Well, I was more or less up front with the retailer. They authorized the RMA, but then upon inspection, decided to decline it and are sending the motherboard back. I guess I can't really blame them, but it just means more $$ and time without a working motherboard. Anyway, I'll get out the magnifying glass and soldering tools and see what I can do myself when I get it back. I don't relish the thought of sending it out again to the manufacturer for repair. Even if they can fix it for a marginal fee, it could mean being without the computer for weeks. So it goes.Welch wrote:Odd, I've built/replaced about 4 Intel systems (1155 and 775) in the past month and never realized that bending the pins in the socket was that easy
BTW, socket 775 didn't have pins. They were on the CPU. This last Intel build I've done was a socket 775.
P5-133XL wrote:You are trying to rationalize your behavior which implies you know that it is wrong. The fact that you are lying to the retailer, also indicates you know that faking it is wrong. I am absolutely positive that if you were on the receiving end and someone else stuck you with this you'd be yelling bloody murder. So why are you arguing with me about the wrongness?
At what monetary point does wrongness no longer matter? Is a lie to save yourself $1 any different than a lie to save yourself $1000 or even a million? The fact that a retailer doesn't absorb the cost of a return doesn't matter for someone does be it the manufacturer or even another customer in a price increase.
Ryu Connor wrote:That's a very reasonable policy.
I did a very quick scan through this thread and I don't see where you ever said which vendor you'd bought from? Who is offering this $50 option?
cynan wrote:An update if anyone cares:
Apparently the motherboard manufacturer's policy for a damaged/bent pin CPU socket is to replace the board for a flat $50 fee (plus shipping of course). This seems quite reasonable given I would be out about 5-6x that amount if forced to buy a new board. I wonder of all motherboard manufacturers have a similar policy? Probably better off paying this amount than trying to fix myself. Only problem is having to wait. Wait for the retailer to send my reject board back and then wait again for the service. At this rate I'll be lucky to have the computer up and running by summer.
I haven't been without a proper desktop PC at home for years; my old one was repurposed weeks ago now. What if I start going through withdrawals? Maybe this will teach me to be so hasty.
cynan wrote:Well, sure, if the pins aren't making contact with the lands on the CPU, you could easily have that problem. And if they're contacting a different one than they're supposed to, you run the risk of permanently damaging both the motherboard and the CPU. A few of the pins aren't connected, and some of the pins are just grounds which might not matter under all situations, but the signal and power pins are kind of important,Does anyone have an opinion as to whether the bent socket pins could have likely caused the malfunctioning memory channel?
cynan wrote:Thanks for all the replies. I ended of sending it in to Asrock. My multimeter doesn't really have fine enough contacts to try and start testing circuit continuity between the CPU socket and DIMM slots. I'm not sure I could actually get at the traces anyway.
cynan wrote:As far as Asrock quality is concerned, they've seemed to be stepping up their game in the past year or two.
just brew it! wrote:It could be a weird incompatibility between the monitor and the video mode the BIOS is using... have another monitor you can try temporarily?