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All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:50 pm

I'm just curious as I have only ever worked in an all PC organizational environment. I know many factors have to be tossed around because of what software is being used. Out of personal experience would you say PC environments or Apple ones seem to operate better?
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:23 pm

I suspect (but have no hard evidence) that the organizations which work the best are the ones that choose the OS for each system based on what the system is used for rather than a blanket "we are a Microsoft IT organization" or "we are an Apple IT organization" decree.

My workplace uses mostly MS Windows, but we also have several Linux users, and a lone Apple fanatic who insists on doing nearly everything on his iPad. Server infrastructure is pretty evenly split between Windows and Linux. All things considered, I'd say things run reasonably smoothly. Most of the IT-related pain isn't really platform-specific, it is more due to general stupidity...
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:26 pm

I'll echo most of what JBI said. It's generally not the platform that causes the issues, but rather the users.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:08 pm

I've worked in environments that have been mixed. The most whining occurs when people want/need a particular program that is platform-specific. Then you get the whole "why do they get another machine" issue, unless its just a matter of running a VM on a Mac. If we could run OSX in a VM on a PC as easily as Windows runs in a VM on a Mac, it'd be perfect.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:22 pm

TheEmrys wrote:
I've worked in environments that have been mixed. The most whining occurs when people want/need a particular program that is platform-specific. Then you get the whole "why do they get another machine" issue, unless its just a matter of running a VM on a Mac. If we could run OSX in a VM on a PC as easily as Windows runs in a VM on a Mac, it'd be perfect.


You /can/ run OSX on Windows in a VM, and I do, but it's of questionable legality at best.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:24 pm

TheEmrys wrote:
I've worked in environments that have been mixed. The most whining occurs when people want/need a particular program that is platform-specific. Then you get the whole "why do they get another machine" issue, unless its just a matter of running a VM on a Mac. If we could run OSX in a VM on a PC as easily as Windows runs in a VM on a Mac, it'd be perfect.

Yes, VMs really do make heterogeneous environments less of an issue than they used to be. Some of our Windows users run Linux VMs, and all of our Linux users run Windows VMs to deal with the situations where we need to do something that isn't handled well by our native desktop OS. As long as you've got enough RAM and a CPU with hardware virtualization support you're good to go.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:31 pm

As long as you've got enough RAM and a CPU with hardware virtualization support you're good to go.


Are VM now supporting GPU compute?

Just curious. Seems like quite a few programs are utilizing the GPU accelerations. If the trend continues, I wonder how long before users demand it in A VM.
 
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:39 pm

mdk77777 wrote:
Are VM now supporting GPU compute?

Not that I'm aware of. DirectX/OpenGL acceleration is getting there though, so I imagine GPU compute will come eventually.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:24 pm

I'm guessing you meant Windows vs OS X. Don't forget about Linux.

In my office vSphere is our rock - tons of Linux server VMs hosted all over the world. OS X for the clients.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:53 pm

mdk77777 wrote:
Are VM now supporting GPU compute?
Just curious. Seems like quite a few programs are utilizing the GPU accelerations. If the trend continues, I wonder how long before users demand it in A VM.

I remember an article here on TR about virtual emulation of graphical acceleration. I don't think it's ready yet, but it's coming.
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Re: All PC vs All Apple Organizations

Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:19 pm

Darkmage wrote:
I remember an article here on TR about virtual emulation of graphical acceleration. I don't think it's ready yet, but it's coming.

Acceleration of DirectX/OpenGL is already here (though not very mature). GPU compute side that is further behind AFAIK...
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